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Help me find study on music and cycling time to exhaustion on bike
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I lost the link to the abstract before I could get the full text and dang if I can't find it on PUBMED.

Summary as I recall it:
2 groups. Time to exhaustion pre-test both groups, no music. one group listened to music during training but not during time to exhaustion test. Other group had no music during training but did during time to exhaustion test. The group that got no music during training but did during testing improved X% (I think 20%) and the other group did not.

Tried all kinds of search terms and can't seem to locate it. I scanned it briefly so I can't remember the study date either. Sorry. Hoping someone here can find it. Thanks!

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Re: Help me find study on music and cycling time to exhaustion on bike [Mike Prevost] [ In reply to ]
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Along the same lines, but I can't find the original study.

http://www.runnersworld.com/...ng-and-after-running
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Re: Help me find study on music and cycling time to exhaustion on bike [Mike Prevost] [ In reply to ]
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Any of these? I don't think that they are the exact one you are looking for but maybe it will be cited...?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15532005/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20391890/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24441216/

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Re: Help me find study on music and cycling time to exhaustion on bike [Mike Prevost] [ In reply to ]
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Nick, Maurice

Close but not the one I was looking for. I should have bookmarked it! What was interesting was that it appears that listening to music during training was detrimental to performance when no music was available. It hinted at mental toughness issues.

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Re: Help me find study on music and cycling time to exhaustion on bike [Mike Prevost] [ In reply to ]
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use topsy and search through steve magness' tweets, or where you think you got it from.

http://topsy.com/...0from%3Astevemagness

These are interesting but aren't quite what you said.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/...803652?dopt=Abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/...842088?dopt=Abstract


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Re: Help me find study on music and cycling time to exhaustion on bike [Mike Prevost] [ In reply to ]
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Mike Prevost wrote:
Close but not the one I was looking for. I should have bookmarked it! What was interesting was that it appears that listening to music during training was detrimental to performance when no music was available. It hinted at mental toughness issues.

Was not listening to music detrimental when forced to listen to music? It could be adaptation to preferred conditions rather than "mental toughness."
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Re: Help me find study on music and cycling time to exhaustion on bike [Granpa Chook] [ In reply to ]
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Granpa Chook wrote:
use topsy and search through steve magness' tweets, or where you think you got it from.

http://topsy.com/...0from%3Astevemagness

These are interesting but aren't quite what you said.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/...803652?dopt=Abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/...842088?dopt=Abstract

Thanks, didn't know about topsy

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Re: Help me find study on music and cycling time to exhaustion on bike [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
Mike Prevost wrote:

Close but not the one I was looking for. I should have bookmarked it! What was interesting was that it appears that listening to music during training was detrimental to performance when no music was available. It hinted at mental toughness issues.


Was not listening to music detrimental when forced to listen to music? It could be adaptation to preferred conditions rather than "mental toughness."

Perhaps. But rating of perceived exertion is lower when people listen to music, so intuitively I think that mental toughness is part of the answer.

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Re: Help me find study on music and cycling time to exhaustion on bike [Mike Prevost] [ In reply to ]
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Mike Prevost wrote:
trail wrote:
Mike Prevost wrote:

Close but not the one I was looking for. I should have bookmarked it! What was interesting was that it appears that listening to music during training was detrimental to performance when no music was available. It hinted at mental toughness issues.


Was not listening to music detrimental when forced to listen to music? It could be adaptation to preferred conditions rather than "mental toughness."


Perhaps. But rating of perceived exertion is lower when people listen to music, so intuitively I think that mental toughness is part of the answer.

I don't remember the citation, but elite athletes tend to use an "associative" coping strategy such that they feel and welcome "the pain".
Non-elites tend to use a dissociative strategy such that they try to take their mind off of it, using music etc.

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Re: Help me find study on music and cycling time to exhaustion on bike [xtrpickels] [ In reply to ]
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xtrpickels wrote:
Mike Prevost wrote:
trail wrote:
Mike Prevost wrote:

Close but not the one I was looking for. I should have bookmarked it! What was interesting was that it appears that listening to music during training was detrimental to performance when no music was available. It hinted at mental toughness issues.


Was not listening to music detrimental when forced to listen to music? It could be adaptation to preferred conditions rather than "mental toughness."


Perhaps. But rating of perceived exertion is lower when people listen to music, so intuitively I think that mental toughness is part of the answer.


I don't remember the citation, but elite athletes tend to use an "associative" coping strategy such that they feel and welcome "the pain".
Non-elites tend to use a dissociative strategy such that they try to take their mind off of it, using music etc.

Makes sense. One of the abstracts I read yesterday showed less of an ergogenic effect of music with elites compared to non-elite.

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Re: Help me find study on music and cycling time to exhaustion on bike [xtrpickels] [ In reply to ]
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xtrpickels wrote:
I don't remember the citation, but elite athletes tend to use an "associative" coping strategy such that they feel and welcome "the pain".
Non-elites tend to use a dissociative strategy such that they try to take their mind off of it, using music etc.

goes back to 1977..
Morgan, W.P., & Pollock, M.L. (1977). Psychological characteristics of the elite female distance runner. Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, 301, pp.382-403.
Not online anywhere I can find though. Interesting that the original study was done on female runners, usually we have the other problem - lots of research using young males, little or nothing on women.

This one
Masters, K.S., & Ogles, B.M. (1998). Associative and Dissociative cognitive strategies in exercise and running: 20 years later, what do we know? The Sport Psychologist, 12, pp.253-270.
can be found as a pdf,
http://www.ayfcoaching.com/...ocumentItem/1989.pdf
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Re: Help me find study on music and cycling time to exhaustion on bike [Mike Prevost] [ In reply to ]
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Were you able to find any studies showing benefits to listening to music when swimming, cycling and running ?
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Re: Help me find study on music and cycling time to exhaustion on bike [Nick B] [ In reply to ]
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Bumping. I am still very interested in this topic.

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