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Re: dcrainmaker review [walie] [ In reply to ]
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I don't think Garmin took a look at the 735 sales figures, had an epiphany and ran to the manufacturing and production department and yelled "scrap everything, make the 935 ROUND!!"

This was probably in the design process for a couple of years and the decision was made then.

Product design cycles are planned out years in advance. The 735 was just the stepping stone.

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Re: Garmin FR935 release [awenborn] [ In reply to ]
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Unfortunately the Fenix 3 doesn't support the newer ConnectIQ 2.2.3+ so the TP app will be compatible with the following out of the gate.

Edge 520/820/1000
935
735xt
Fenix5 (all variants)

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Re: Garmin FR935 release [Mrcooper] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for taking the time to reply to this.

Do you think there's any chance of fenix 3 support down the line? Just off-the-record... ;)
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Re: Garmin FR935 release [awenborn] [ In reply to ]
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I would never say never, but I know the hardware on the 735xt (and newer devices) is much faster than the Fenix 3, and they pushed the specs on the 3 pretty far from my understanding.

The ConnectIQ Developer section has a bit of the roadmap/devices on it link below:

https://developer.garmin.com/.../compatible-devices/

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Re: Garmin FR935 release [Mrcooper] [ In reply to ]
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That's a shame, but I'll look forward to trying it out on my Edge at least!
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Re: Garmin FR935 release [awenborn] [ In reply to ]
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I won't believe it until its on my wrist...who knows it could be an early April Fools joke
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Re: Garmin FR935 release [anthonypat] [ In reply to ]
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I won't believe it until its on my wrist...who knows it could be an early April Fools joke

hahahahahhahhahahaha

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Re: Garmin FR935 release [JayPeeWhy] [ In reply to ]
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Talked to 2 Garmin bigwigs at the LA Marathon expo this morning...

I told him I like the square face as it allows for a nice 4 quad layout and having the lap button on the face makes it easy to hit at intervals. He said their feedback is folks like the round face and more people like to wear the watch all day as a regular watch and somehow a square face detracts from that? I think garmin is trying to play to both the casual sport data collection person and the hard core tri/ ultra runner and may miss the mark former.

This is what annoys me. I don't wear my 920 every day & I would not wear any Garmin as my daily watch. It serves a purpose & that is to track my workouts. At my peak, I will be putting in 100+ SBR miles a week. I don't need to wear an activity tracker to tell me if I walked 10,000 steps today. The Fenix Sapphire is the closest thing to a smartwatch that I would wear daily, but even that is more than I want or need.

The square face on the 910 & 920 has been a proven standard for years. Why they want to mess with that is beyond me. I get that they say that it makes ConnectIQ development easier when all faces are round, but when they are charging what they are charging for these devices, they should deliver on the core needs for the core purpose of the watch, not on ancillary BS like making the watch stylish for everyday use. Oh, and the #1 smartwatch on the market today has a square face. Just saying.


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Who buys a dress watch these days? Seriously.

I wear a Rolex GMT-II every day. I have a second Rolex that was passed down to me from my grandfather that he got in 1964 & I wear that for special occasions. I get that millenials have their phones to tell time & think mechanical watches are pointless, but Swiss watches are still a $6B+ a year industry. In the first year of the Apple Watch's explosive growth, they still fell short of one brand. While they have since surpassed Rolex, no one will be passing a smart watch down to their grandchildren for the next 60-80-100 years. Smart watches are $600 disposable goods with a lifespan of 3-5 years. When I look at my wrist, I want something that will reliably tell me the time, and will also be (ironically) a timeless work of art.
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Re: Garmin FR935 release [Meathead] [ In reply to ]
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anthonypat wrote:
Talked to 2 Garmin bigwigs at the LA Marathon expo this morning...

I Oh, and the #1 smartwatch on the market today has a square face. Just saying.

I imagine that they would be the #1 smart watch if it were round or oval or even shaped like a pear.

I'm migrating from my 910xt to the 5s since it will also replace my apple watch as a day to day device. I look forward to the always on display.
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Re: Garmin FR935 release [tri.bob] [ In reply to ]
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tri.bob wrote:
Meathead wrote:
anthonypat wrote:
Talked to 2 Garmin bigwigs at the LA Marathon expo this morning...

Oh, and the #1 smartwatch on the market today has a square face. Just saying.

I imagine that they would be the #1 smart watch if it were round or oval or even shaped like a pear.

I'm migrating from my 910xt to the 5s since it will also replace my apple watch as a day to day device. I look forward to the always on display.

You are making my point there. If you make a device that has what the customer wants, the shape is not an issue. Garmin is saying that they are going to round faces because it makes the watch more appealing to wear all the time. I argue that if you give people what they want in a watch, including a more readable display, they won't care about the aesthetics.
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Re: Garmin FR935 release [Meathead] [ In reply to ]
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Meathead wrote:
tri.bob wrote:
Meathead wrote:
anthonypat wrote:
Talked to 2 Garmin bigwigs at the LA Marathon expo this morning...

Oh, and the #1 smartwatch on the market today has a square face. Just saying.

I imagine that they would be the #1 smart watch if it were round or oval or even shaped like a pear.

I'm migrating from my 910xt to the 5s since it will also replace my apple watch as a day to day device. I look forward to the always on display.


You are making my point there. If you make a device that has what the customer wants, the shape is not an issue. Garmin is saying that they are going to round faces because it makes the watch more appealing to wear all the time. I argue that if you give people what they want in a watch, including a more readable display, they won't care about the aesthetics.

I actually didn't care for the square face of the 920. I wear my watch 24x7 and the 920 looked odd/archaic......I dumped it for the 735 (I only use the watch on the run, I have a separate bike computer). Glad the 935 is round.
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Re: Garmin FR935 release [Mike Alexander] [ In reply to ]
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I love new gadgets, but this looks like a POS. A "plastic" version of the Fenix 5? This is no upgrade from the 920, imo.
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Re: Garmin FR935 release [rsmoylan] [ In reply to ]
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Now how long until we see the 920 price drop!?
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Re: Garmin FR935 release [SwizBeats] [ In reply to ]
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It's already dropped.

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Re: Garmin FR935 release [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Where? Places I've been watching have been the same...


BryanD wrote:
It's already dropped.
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Re: Garmin FR935 release [SwizBeats] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Garmin FR935 release [SwizBeats] [ In reply to ]
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920 has been around $260 on Amazon for a while now.

$300 for the run bundle (accelerometers in HRM) which is great value considering that strap is over $100 by itself.
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Re: dcrainmaker review [ericallenboyd] [ In reply to ]
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Feature comparison chart vs a few other Garmin models, including the 920
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Re: dcrainmaker review [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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GMAN. What happened to Texas?
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Re: Garmin FR935 release [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Any reason to keep my 735xt? I may swap it out for the 935. Longer battery life is the biggest deal for me, but altimeter is nice too.

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Re: Garmin FR935 release [RudeDude] [ In reply to ]
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I'd sell it. I passed on the 735 because I saw it as a temporary solution.

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Re: dcrainmaker review [TriathlonJoe] [ In reply to ]
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GMAN. What happened to Texas?

Two of the last four months I couldn't train due to illness or injury. So I bailed.

The race is still a go if that's what you're worried about. Weather looks like total shit though.

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Re: Garmin FR935 release [BryanD] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks. I was ignorant, but luckily I bought from a store w/ 60 day return policy :)

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Re: Garmin FR935 release [Meathead] [ In reply to ]
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JayPeeWhy wrote:
Who buys a dress watch these days? Seriously.


I wear a Rolex GMT-II every day. I have a second Rolex that was passed down to me from my grandfather that he got in 1964 & I wear that for special occasions. I get that millenials have their phones to tell time & think mechanical watches are pointless, but Swiss watches are still a $6B+ a year industry. In the first year of the Apple Watch's explosive growth, they still fell short of one brand. While they have since surpassed Rolex, no one will be passing a smart watch down to their grandchildren for the next 60-80-100 years. Smart watches are $600 disposable goods with a lifespan of 3-5 years. When I look at my wrist, I want something that will reliably tell me the time, and will also be (ironically) a timeless work of art.

I'm not a millennial (47 years old) but I think watches for the sake of telling time are indeed pointless. I can't stand jewelry in general so the thought of wearing a watch as some kind of fashion accessory or status symbol is even less appealing but that's just my personal opinion. To each their own. I don't get the fuss about expensive watches but I understand that it's no different than people not getting the fuss about expensive bikes, to which I have owned several.

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Re: Garmin FR935 release [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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The GMAN wrote:
Meathead wrote:


JayPeeWhy wrote:
Who buys a dress watch these days? Seriously.


I wear a Rolex GMT-II every day. I have a second Rolex that was passed down to me from my grandfather that he got in 1964 & I wear that for special occasions. I get that millenials have their phones to tell time & think mechanical watches are pointless, but Swiss watches are still a $6B+ a year industry. In the first year of the Apple Watch's explosive growth, they still fell short of one brand. While they have since surpassed Rolex, no one will be passing a smart watch down to their grandchildren for the next 60-80-100 years. Smart watches are $600 disposable goods with a lifespan of 3-5 years. When I look at my wrist, I want something that will reliably tell me the time, and will also be (ironically) a timeless work of art.

I'm not a millennial (47 years old) but I think watches for the sake of telling time are indeed pointless. I can't stand jewelry in general so the thought of wearing a watch as some kind of fashion accessory or status symbol is even less appealing but that's just my personal opinion. To each their own. I don't get the fuss about expensive watches but I understand that it's no different than people not getting the fuss about expensive bikes, to which I have owned several.
I'd have to agree with Meathead. I'm also 47 by the way. My daily wear is a U-Boat which I love for it's aesthetics and it's 'unusualness' in that hardly anyone is one. Certainly here in NZ. I also have a 1969 Omega which was bought for my 40th birthday. That is a timeless piece of beauty that no smartwatch will ever surpass.

That said other people aren't like me hence Garmins change.

A wise man once told me " you're here for a good time, not a long time"

How right he was!!
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