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Hey guys, my yearly physical I decided to get my Testosterone levels checked for the first time. My total T was 504, my free T was 6.3 which is low. My DHEA was 112, SHBG was 67, Cortisol was 20 if that helps...... Thoughts?.... I am 43, train 8-15 hours a week, eat healthy, and lift weights (2-3x/week intensely) along with tri training.
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Juan
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Re: Free Testosterone [oldhagj] [ In reply to ]
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"Hey pal if you want Testosterone you are gonna have to pay for it."
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Re: Free Testosterone [oldhagj] [ In reply to ]
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oldhagj wrote:
Hey guys, my yearly physical I decided to get my Testosterone levels checked for the first time. My total T was 504, my free T was 6.3 which is low. My DHEA was 112, SHBG was 67, Cortisol was 20 if that helps...... Thoughts?.... I am 43, train 8-15 hours a week, eat healthy, and lift weights (2-3x/week intensely) along with tri training.
Thanks!
Juan

What is your question? You have obviously seen a doc. What do they recommend?
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Re: Free Testosterone [rsmoylan] [ In reply to ]
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Haven't talked to doc yet, blood work was sent email..curious what others have as baseline. I feel like I recover well, have decent sex drive, etc, but surprised the free T was low.
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Re: Free Testosterone [oldhagj] [ In reply to ]
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oldhagj wrote:
Haven't talked to doc yet, blood work was sent email..curious what others have as baseline. I feel like I recover well, have decent sex drive, etc, but surprised the free T was low.

So what's the problem then? Forgot about the stupid number and just live your life.



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Re: Free Testosterone [oldhagj] [ In reply to ]
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oldhagj wrote:
Haven't talked to doc yet, blood work was sent email..curious what others have as baseline. I feel like I recover well, have decent sex drive, etc, but surprised the free T was low.

If you're looking for the permission of the forum to supplement and still compete in tris, you won't find it.
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Re: Free Testosterone [IKnowEverything] [ In reply to ]
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LOL...not my intentions, curious what others have going on with regards to fitness, recovery,age,etc...first time I have tested it.
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Re: Free Testosterone [oldhagj] [ In reply to ]
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Taking T and competing, even if tests came back low, even if suggested by your doctor, it is still doping and can get you caught and banned from the sport. Other age groupers just like you have been caught and have been banned. Even asking this is a pretty big nono. Just so you know. :)
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Re: Free Testosterone [oldhagj] [ In reply to ]
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Hey guys, my yearly physical I decided to get my Testosterone levels checked for the first time. My total T was 504, my free T was 6.3



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Re: Free Testosterone [Dilbert] [ In reply to ]
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Guys, I get it...I am more concerned in health than racing times...I would be a fool to think I can PR this late in the game.
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Re: Free Testosterone [oldhagj] [ In reply to ]
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I am extremely skeptical about rank-and-file men having mildly "Low T" being a problem that needs addressed. I think that's a growth industry that intersects negatively with fair play in sporting activities. I'd love to stand back and say it doesn't concern me, but more and more people who line up on start lines without real awareness or thought are getting these messages from their doctors. And why would someone question their doctor? I mean, usually these are people considered to be after our best health interests. Long story short, it's more than a little disturbing that the message that old men need viagra and testosterone is becoming normed.

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Re: Free Testosterone [oldhagj] [ In reply to ]
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oldhagj wrote:
Guys, I get it...I am more concerned in health than racing times...I would be a fool to think I can PR this late in the game.

This isn't about PR-ing. This is about you shouldn't be competing in triathlons at all if you're doping. And unless you get a TUE for testosterone from WADA, you're doping. And we don't look the other way here. If you are trying to get a thumbs-up from us, then you are in the wrong place. Either stop doing tris and dope away, or get a TUE and you can compete in the clear. There are too many other people with lower T than you that don't dope in triathlons for you to excuse this away.


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Re: Free Testosterone [oldhagj] [ In reply to ]
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So, Cody Beals a canadian professional triathlete made a few posts regarding his low T saga. Hope it helps:

http://www.codybeals.com/...testosterone-part-i/

http://www.codybeals.com/...er-low-testosterone/

http://www.codybeals.com/...-testosterone-again/
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Re: Free Testosterone [oldhagj] [ In reply to ]
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So, has anyone else had their Testosterone tested and want to share the number? I think the OP was hoping for replies like "My T was in the same ball-park, you're good." or something like that.
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Re: Free Testosterone [ZenTriBrett] [ In reply to ]
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Dude relax, I came on here to get advice on T levels and my health..I am 43 and at this point my health, sex life, feeling good 20 years from now and preventing disease is of greater concern than competing . I am looking for positive feedback, not some excuse to use testosterone. I get the hate about people using this and that, but that is not what I was looking for. Thanks for the negativity bro.
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Re: Free Testosterone [Jonny89] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks!
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Re: Free Testosterone [oldhagj] [ In reply to ]
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oldhagj wrote:
Haven't talked to doc yet, blood work was sent email..curious what others have as baseline. I feel like I recover well, have decent sex drive, etc, but surprised the free T was low.

Here are my complete Q2 blood work lab results.

It also links to my Q1 so you can compare further, although I do some comparison in the post.


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Re: Free Testosterone [oldhagj] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, whatever. I'm even older than you and at this point in my life I can tell when somebody is fishing for permission to get away with something. Enjoy the big serving of No you're getting from everybody here. Glad you got the message.


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Re: Free Testosterone [oldhagj] [ In reply to ]
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oldhagj wrote:
Haven't talked to doc yet, blood work was sent email..curious what others have as baseline. I feel like I recover well, have decent sex drive, etc, but surprised the free T was low.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

And the "fix" for this won't get any support on here anyways and for good reason.
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Re: Free Testosterone [TriBriGuy] [ In reply to ]
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TriBriGuy wrote:
I am extremely skeptical about rank-and-file men having mildly "Low T" being a problem that needs addressed. I think that's a growth industry that intersects negatively with fair play in sporting activities. I'd love to stand back and say it doesn't concern me, but more and more people who line up on start lines without real awareness or thought are getting these messages from their doctors. And why would someone question their doctor? I mean, usually these are people considered to be after our best health interests. Long story short, it's more than a little disturbing that the message that old men need viagra and testosterone is becoming normed.

So much truth here!

The problem is that as with much of big Pharma, there are heaps of money to be made. By normalizing the use of such things rather than just accepting that testosterone levels can change as we age, it's becoming normal to be on t or whatever else.. it also gives the cheaters a very easy out
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Re: Free Testosterone [ZenTriBrett] [ In reply to ]
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You know me so well...triathlon is a hobby bro, you sound over-trained :)
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Re: Free Testosterone [captain-tri] [ In reply to ]
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Pretty much exactly what I was looking for, mainly good data for future use and what people are doing. Its def not gonna get any easier maintaining optimal health as we get older.
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Re: Free Testosterone [davejustdave] [ In reply to ]
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VERY common to see folks using it where I live, all while neglecting the fact it can compromise them later with a doc that will frivolously write scripts. Last resort for meds of any kind should be the last approach.
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Re: Free Testosterone [oldhagj] [ In reply to ]
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oldhagj wrote:
You know me so well...triathlon is a hobby bro, you sound over-trained :)

Not sure if you're talking to me, but I will address a couple things you have written.

First, this whole idea that you can't PR at 43? You've given up. You've quit. You're only 43 dude. 43, there are still guys finishing first overall at large races at 43. There are dudes winning 140.6s in their early forties. Do you recover slower at 43? Yes. But that's not an excuse. You can still PR. Don't take shortcuts and don't make excuses

I'm 43 too, and I'm faster in some ways then I was when I was in my twenties. Back then I recovered quicker and probably had more explosiveness, but now, after years of dragging my ass up mountains, dealing with General Life bullshit that requires an endurance beyond that possessed by your typical Young Buck, and just surviving, the mental game and just the general stubborn-as-fu#kishness level is there in a way that I never had in my twenties or early thirties.

Second, you listed your T level as a little low. You do know there's a range for such things?

Did you ever get a tested when you were younger? You might be the same, higher, or lower than you were at a yoi ger age. People are different. If you're that concerned about your health, stay away from supplementing it. Down the line it can hurt you.

That and the whole you'd be cheating thing.
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Re: Free Testosterone [oldhagj] [ In reply to ]
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Imagine all of those poor poor people who lived before Testosterone testing. I'll bet they lived miserable lives not being able to compare their T-levels to other peoples' T-Levels.

What kind of "thoughts" did you really expect to recieve when posting this on this forum?
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