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Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013
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Finally!
Race will be point to point.
Swim Start and T1 will be at The Davidson College Lake Campus on Langtree Road, Cornelius. T2/Finish at Bailey Road Park, Cornelius.
I haven't seen either course. Wetsuit legal.
5 weeks before Beach 2 Battleship.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [trophyhusband] [ In reply to ]
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Link?
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [Goosedog] [ In reply to ]
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None yet, but this should help....
The 2013 event will be announced on November 1, 2012 along with the specific date and time for online registration.
Online registration for the 2013 event will open on November 12, 2012.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [trophyhusband] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks. I'm pretty clueless. Is this a WTC event?
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [trophyhusband] [ In reply to ]
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This is awesome, especially since I am moving back to Charlotte next week. It won't be a flat race, but should be nice and rolling in that area.


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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [trophyhusband] [ In reply to ]
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Setup Events. Bam! Cannot wait.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [nickwhite] [ In reply to ]
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Excellent. Thanks.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [nickwhite] [ In reply to ]
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Why is that a bam on setupevents?
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [TriRooster] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [TriRooster] [ In reply to ]
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TriRooster wrote:
Why is that a bam on setupevents?
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Because the produce a great quality event and don't bend you over with entry fees?



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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [Ex-cyclist] [ In reply to ]
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I know that. I thought he was slamming setup.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [TriRooster] [ In reply to ]
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TriRooster wrote:
I know that. I thought he was slamming setup.

Glenn, never. Bam was an expression of excitement about a race happening in my back yard. I hope this clears things up.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [trophyhusband] [ In reply to ]
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So......the same day as Augusta?

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [japarker24] [ In reply to ]
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japarker24 wrote:
So......the same day as Augusta?

Yes, looks like this is on the same day as Augusta 70.3. But this race and Augusta are over 3 hours drive apart. I don't see this being much of a problem for either race.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [trophyhusband] [ In reply to ]
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Link to a half distance race is up on 9/29/2013, not a WTC..

http://setupevents.com/...ail&eventID=2355

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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [fasterthanTIM] [ In reply to ]
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fasterthanTIM wrote:
Link to a half distance race is up on 9/29/2013, not a WTC..

http://setupevents.com/...ail&eventID=2355[/quote]

Limit of 500 racers......

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [japarker24] [ In reply to ]
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I would much rather do a smaller Set Up race then a 70.3.

My race schedule next year:

Mountain Madness Half: http://setupevents.com/...ail&eventID=2239

Charlotte Half

B2B Half or Full

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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [trophyhusband] [ In reply to ]
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They're calling it the "Carolina Half", and it was just announced today with the rest of the North Carolina Tri Series 2013 races:

Carolina Half: http://setupevents.com/...ail&eventID=2355

Swim:
The swim will take place at Davidson College Lake Campus off Langtree Rd. Water temperature in Lake Norman is usually around 70 degrees which will make for a fast wetsuit legal swim. The swim will be a beach start, with participants lining up shoulder to shoulder. It will be a triangle clock wise swim course with two turns. Swim bouys will be positioned every 100 meters throughout the course. The swim exit will be a ladder exit at the end of the pier.


Transition #1 - The swim to bike transition is will be at Davidson College Lake Campus. The swim to bike transition is about 1/4 mile due to the finish location of the swim and the start location of the bike. The road from swim finish to T1 is not paved, it is a gravel road. We will provide a location at swim finish to place shoes, so participants have the option to utilize them when running from swim finish to T1.


Bike:
The bike course is a 56 mile loop that will run thorugh 4 different counties. The course will start out by going directly through Downtown Moorsville heading out into rural areas of NC. The course is a combination of flats, rolling hills, rural and urban areas. The Road surface is very good throughout the course.


Transition #2 - The bike to run transition will be at Bailey Road Park.


Run Course:
The run course is an "out & back" design. The course is rolling, features a fair amount of shading, but also some long stretches without shade. The course will leave Bailey Rd Park and connect to the Davidson Greenway system. It will utilize the Davidson Greenway system, Davidson College, and surrounding neighborhoods in Davidson/Cornelius.




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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [nickwhite] [ In reply to ]
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So what's the deal with those "Setup Cup Qualifier" NCTS races? Couldn't find anymore information on that Setup Cup race.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [Rage KG] [ In reply to ]
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Rage KG wrote:
So what's the deal with those "Setup Cup Qualifier" NCTS races? Couldn't find anymore information on that Setup Cup race.

The Set Up Cup race is a free oly/international distance race that will be held in Spring 2014. The exact location has not been announced yet, but look for it to be a very unique venue.

You must complete 5 Set Up Cup qualifying races to be eligible for the free race, but each series only has 3 qualifier races. Set Up Events is trying to entice athletes to race in other series besides the one in their home state.

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [trophyhusband] [ In reply to ]
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This will be pretty cool to have a decent distance race around here. The biggest tri in this area has been the Lake Norman YMCA sprint and it fills up every year with about 2,000 participants. I haven't done it the past couple of years, but I think that is still the case. Anyone that wants to do this had better plan on registering at midnight because I predict it will fill up in minutes with a limit of 500.

I am looking forward to the event. I suspect the bike course will include many of my regular routes and if they use the Davidson Greenway system for the run course leaving from Bailey Road Park, they will end up running through my neighborhood too. Seems crazy to send the riders through downtown Mooresville, though. There are other, less congested ways to pass through the area although I suspect the Chamber of Commerce may have wanted it that way.

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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [gregtryin] [ In reply to ]
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gregtryin wrote:
This will be pretty cool to have a decent distance race around here. The biggest tri in this area has been the Lake Norman YMCA sprint and it fills up every year with about 2,000 participants. I haven't done it the past couple of years, but I think that is still the case. Anyone that wants to do this had better plan on registering at midnight because I predict it will fill up in minutes with a limit of 500.

I am looking forward to the event. I suspect the bike course will include many of my regular routes and if they use the Davidson Greenway system for the run course leaving from Bailey Road Park, they will end up running through my neighborhood too. Seems crazy to send the riders through downtown Mooresville, though. There are other, less congested ways to pass through the area although I suspect the Chamber of Commerce may have wanted it that way.

Greg

The Lake Norman YMCA triathlon (put on by the same people as the new Carolina Half) has a limit of 800 racers. I did the race in 2010. There is no way that facility has ever had a race anywhere near 2,000 people.

I disagree with your prediction of a sellout in minutes. In the Sept/Oct timeframe in the Southeast athletes have many half iron choices:

Ironman 70.3 Augusta, Rev3 Anderson SC, FS Series Half (Jordan Lake), Outer Banks Half, B2B Half and now Carolina Half.

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [japarker24] [ In reply to ]
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OK, haven't been keeping close track for a while. Regardless, didn't they go to the Sat/Sun format to allow more participants? I thought they were allowing 800-1,200 per day.

I think the Charlotte 70.3 will sellout before the other races you mentioned because just about all of the Charlotte participants would prefer to race here than travelling to the other locations. There will be a significant number of 70.3 first timers too, I believe. There is a big population base here and I am going to predict it sells out fast, but maybe you are right. We'll see.

Greg

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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [gregtryin] [ In reply to ]
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gregtryin wrote:
The biggest tri in this area has been the Lake Norman YMCA sprint and it fills up every year with about 2,000 participants.

I see Nick has already corrected this but where in the world did you pull 2000 from??

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Anyone that wants to do this had better plan on registering at midnight because I predict it will fill up in minutes with a limit of 500.

Seriously, seriously doubt that. They haven't had a race sell out that fast in a couple of years. There's nothing THAT special about this race, just that it's close.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [nickwhite] [ In reply to ]
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The bike and run courses have been posted: http://setupevents.com/...Half_Course_Maps.pdf
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [trophyhusband] [ In reply to ]
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trophyhusband wrote:
The bike and run courses have been posted: http://setupevents.com/...Half_Course_Maps.pdf

Our triclub regularly rides a good portion of this route! Lots of FAST sections in there. Some rollers as well, but nothing too crazy.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [nickwhite] [ In reply to ]
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fastest bike split prediction?
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [James Haycraft] [ In reply to ]
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Me :)


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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [trophyhusband] [ In reply to ]
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That run course is no joke! I run those roads often enough and it is going to hurt. Bike course is going to be awesome.


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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [jbnc77] [ In reply to ]
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What are some guesses for how quickly it'll sell out? I figured I'd have some time to register but seeing as how it's limited to 500, I'm not so sure now.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [jbnc77] [ In reply to ]
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jbnc77 wrote:
Me :)

Not a chance.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [James Haycraft] [ In reply to ]
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2:18, if only the usual SetUp crowd is racing, maybe as fast as 2:13 or 2:14 if an out-of-towner decides to show up and hammer the bike. I don't think the course will be that fast. Mooresville and Davidson are fairly hilly. You, me, and Donny struggle to crack 24mph on the Lake Norman Y course even though we've each been 26+ on flat courses this year...Donny split 23.8mph this year if the course was the stated 17mi. Stumpy Creek, on the other hand, is a bit faster (you were 25 flat there this year, right?). Given that the course will be a bit of a mix between the two general regions (not the exact courses, but the types of terrain), and the fact that the Half is ~twice as long as Stumpy, I think the winning average on the bike will be low to mid 24mph. a 24.3 avg works out to a 2:18ish...

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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [ZackC.] [ In reply to ]
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2:18, if only the usual SetUp crowd is racing, maybe as fast as 2:13 or 2:14 if an out-of-towner decides to show up and hammer the bike. I don't think the course will be that fast. Mooresville and Davidson are fairly hilly. You, me, and Donny struggle to crack 24mph on the Lake Norman Y course even though we've each been 26+ on flat courses this year...Donny split 23.8mph this year if the course was the stated 17mi. Stumpy Creek, on the other hand, is a bit faster (you were 25 flat there this year, right?). Given that the course will be a bit of a mix between the two general regions (not the exact courses, but the types of terrain), and the fact that the Half is ~twice as long as Stumpy, I think the winning average on the bike will be low to mid 24mph. a 24.3 avg works out to a 2:18ish...

Lake Norman was just under 18 (17.8). Tons of turns at the end. Crappy bike course IMO

I'd guess 2:16-2:18. You gonna do long-course at all next year? ;)
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [James Haycraft] [ In reply to ]
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Getting jaw surgery at an undetermined date between 4 and 6 months from now,so I'm just going to squeeze in what I can before that happens, and perhaps salvage what I can of the rest of the season. I might be more content with being laid up for a month post-surgery if I go long a few weeks before, but you and I both know I suck donkey penis at races longer than 2hr :). I'm meeting with my surgeon Dec. 7 so I may get a more specific timeline then.

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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [nickwhite] [ In reply to ]
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nickwhite wrote:
jbnc77 wrote:
Me :)


Not a chance.


OK, Nick White will have the fastest bike split


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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [jbnc77] [ In reply to ]
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jbnc77 wrote:
nickwhite wrote:
jbnc77 wrote:
Me :)


Not a chance.


OK, Nick White will have the fastest bike split

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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [jbnc77] [ In reply to ]
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jbnc77 wrote:
That run course is no joke! I run those roads often enough and it is going to hurt. Bike course is going to be awesome.

No kidding about that. There are a few pretty decent hills on that run course and lots of smaller hills between them. Not going to be very many people getting PRs on that course.

I agree on the bike too. I ride those roads every weekend, well, not now that I have a broken ankle, but before that...

Lots of rollers with a few climbs, but I don't think there is a climb of more than 200' anywhere. The biggest climbs I see are:

* Longish shallow climb on Wiggins up to 801 at about mile 10
* Centenary Church Rd. at about mile 30 is significant, little steep (maybe 5% avg.?) and 3/4 mile or so
* Rocky RIver Rd. at about mile 43 up to Shearer's past the Food Lion is probably the toughest of the group, around 180' and 6% or so

I don't have access to my ride records here at the office, so those are all from memory. Do you see any other significant climbs?

Greg

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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [gregtryin] [ In reply to ]
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This is definitely NOT a PR course. The swim times will be slow, IMHO. While I've never swam in that section off of Langtree. Most areas, like that, in LKN have a slight current in some direction. With that swim course set up, you're likely to have a slight head or cross current for most of that portion.

The bike course is not hard but does have a few rollers. The worst hill will be coming up Rocky River to Shearers. Which, again IMHO, is one of the steeper "hills" around here. This course reminds me of Augusta in some ways. I'd say slightly steeper in sections, but similar in that it has rollers with some flat sections where you can pick up time.

The run course is not easy. There is a nasty little hill towards the end, if I am reading that map correctly, coming back up to Bailey Rd. This should make for a bunch of walkers in that section.

Definitely excited to see this in the area and I'll be doing this rather than Augusta in 2013. Can't wait!


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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [Fish2587] [ In reply to ]
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The Saturday bike check will hurt registration. Even from the Charlotte area, who want to make 2 trips to the site. When I saw a Charlotte half I could not wait but after the Sat. bike check I am out. I am not getting a motel room when I live 45 minutes away.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [Macmean] [ In reply to ]
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Macmean wrote:
The Saturday bike check will hurt registration. Even from the Charlotte area, who want to make 2 trips to the site. When I saw a Charlotte half I could not wait but after the Sat. bike check I am out. I am not getting a motel room when I live 45 minutes away.

I can see not wanting to waste 2-3 hours of your day on Saturday (I live about 45min from the race site as well). But, then again, what are you doing the day before a Half IM?

On the other hand, I kinda like checking the bike on Saturday. It makes for a smoother, less stressful race morning. The Saturday bike check, actually makes me want to do this race more.

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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [Runner Rick] [ In reply to ]
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+1.....less crap I have to carry in on race morning the better.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [nickwhite] [ In reply to ]
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Ladder exit??

Can we say "bottleneck"

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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [marcbarton] [ In reply to ]
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marcbarton wrote:
Ladder exit??

Can we say "bottleneck"

Sounds like this thread would be very beneficial to you.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [marcbarton] [ In reply to ]
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marcbarton wrote:
Ladder exit??

Can we say "bottleneck"

Holy crap.......you registered three years ago, and this is your first post?!?!?!?!

Since you are following the Charlotte 70.3 thread, I'll assume you know about the races at White Lake and a very popular race known as B2B. FWIW, both of those venues have ladder exits.

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [japarker24] [ In reply to ]
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I didn't know there was a minimum per year post quota. :-P

Just started following the thread to be notified with replies.

I do know of those races but haven't raced them or know of their swim logistics. I've primarily focused on XTERRA races the past 6 years. I did Augusta in 2011 and had a blast. Since this race is local, I'd love to give it a shot.

Given this is similar to those other races and the number of racers, I assume that the ladder exit isn't just a single-person ladder. Is that correct?

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Re: Charlotte, NC First 70.3 - September 29, 2013 [japarker24] [ In reply to ]
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japarker24 wrote:
marcbarton wrote:
Ladder exit??

Can we say "bottleneck"


Holy crap.......you registered three years ago, and this is your first post?!?!?!?!

Since you are following the Charlotte 70.3 thread, I'll assume you know about the races at White Lake and a very popular race known as B2B. FWIW, both of those venues have ladder exits.

There's a rather large difference in wave size b/w a 500 person race and a 2500 person race.
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