Have you ever seen an aero chart that *doesn't* show the particular product being promoted as being the best?

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Boyd rims are made in Taiwan (see their website). Few companies source their CF rims stateside.

DOH!

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-Stephen in Arkansas

Name and being an idiot.


FYI -- I rock Boyd 60s and am upgrading to their newer model.

I know what you're saying. You'll never see Zipp or ENVE or HED do a cost vs grams drag saved compared to FLO, for example. That would be bad marketing.
But, is Boyd a legitimate player in the "super wheels." And are they doing it at half the price?

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-Stephen in Arkansas

over on that aeroweenie.com website they have the zipp 303 that was run in the same test =)

http://aeroweenie.com/...ckup/boyd/index.html

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Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
Aeroweenie.com -Compendium of Aero Data and Knowledge
Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter

Yes.

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Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
Aeroweenie.com -Compendium of Aero Data and Knowledge
Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter

Dude. That place is the bomb.

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-Stephen in Arkansas

Look at that. With the money you are spending on 2 sets of Boyds, you could have had a pair Zipps!

Not sure if this is pink or not...

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http://kjmcawesome.tumblr.com/

It's definitely not pink in my case. A) Selling my used and getting a large amount back B) Newer wheels are much much better than old ones (wider and, most important, better braking)

If I keep both sets, yes, pink!

http://www.novemberbicycles.com/...l=/storage/40KTT.jpg

I recently saw a pair of those at a road race and they looked nice but Boyd has them beat in the eyeball test. At least they are one company that does not always have their product as being the fastest.

I have been riding the new 90s for about a month or so now and I have owned zipps as well. My opinion is that the new 90s are amazing wheels, I absolutely love them. If it matters to you to support a smaller company with a great product that's a plus as well. I think you would be hard pressed to find any data that says the added cost is worth it and IMO unless you are winning/losing races or your age group by the respective argued time savings then you might as well save the coin and invest it else where or use it to race more. Love my Boyd wheels I will continue to support them.

Felt has also shown in their white papers that there are other bikes that do better in certain yaw ranges.

How so? Mine get compliments all the time. No one has heard of them, though.

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The point is, ladies and gentleman, that speed, for lack of a better word, is good. Speed is right, Speed works. Speed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.

Because I believe supporting US manufacturers that stand behind their product with 5 year warranty rather then a company that sources their wheels from Taiwan.

PS: tell me how your rim does hitting a pothole at 40mph on a descent. My ENVEs held up fine.

well you know unless we find the same pothole and hit it at the same speed with the same tire and pressures you used we will never know the answer to that question.

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Kat Hunter reports on the San Dimas Stage Race from inside the GC winning team
Aeroweenie.com -Compendium of Aero Data and Knowledge
Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter

I've got a set of Boyd 44mm Carbon Clinchers that I've been running on my new FOIL ... I like the a lot!

They are as light as a set of 303's, nearly as aero at all yaw angles, can be built up 24/28 for a stronger build and don't have any issues with heat build up even on steep/twisty descents and I'm around 180 pounds.

For the price, they are pretty awesome and all reviews point to awesome customer support.

I am very pleased with my Boyd's and the cuts service has been very good both pre and post purchase.

Why pay double for Zipps or ENVEs?

Why pay for Boyd when you can get Chinese carbon for less than half? Or Flo for a lot less?

So you buy everything that is only 100% manufactured in USofA? That must get pretty difficult looking through the BOM of every product you buy to ensure that everything is US based.

Boyd owns the design of their wheels, these aren't open mold and they do have a warranty. The hubs and assembly are US based. All their wheels are assembled and built in Greenville SC. A larger percentage of the racers around me use Boyd wheels and I've never heard of their wheels failing from hitting something on a descent or any type of pothole.

With regards to Flo, that's a good point. It's an aluminum clincher rim, which makes a lot of sense for virtually all applications. I have a set of Flo 30s and love them. But, those buying Zipp and ENVE don't want an aluminum rim. They want all carbon. Boyd are all carbon. (I think 90% of the reason for that is the look of an all black rim, but that's just speculation.)

With regards to Chinese carbon, I would have concern with quality control issues. They don't have to live under the same *threat* of lawsuit, etc., that requires a responsibility on their part to produce a good product. And there's no substantiated aero testing I'm aware of. They're just popping out an open mold, right? So, I wouldn't want Chinese carbon for fear of my safety (fairly or unfairly). I wouldn't harbor that fear w/ Boyd.

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-Stephen in Arkansas

Let's not forget, the overwhelming majority of our carbon bikes (except for the highest end) from major manufacturers are sourced from Asia. If quality is controlled, it doesn't matter if they're made on the moon.

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-Stephen in Arkansas

You've not had a close enough look at the wheels coming from China/Taiwan. They've nailed the new fairing shape. And I can personally vouch for the strength/quality as I hit a pothole on my set so hard that my entire, properly torqued, drop bars rotated completely forward. The wheels didn't even go out of true. Quality stuff. And for $450 to my door.

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