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HalfSpeed

Apr 15, 11 9:01

Post #126 of 222 (1350 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [tigerchik] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
Good Morning TC.
If I run before a swim, I'm guaranteeing myself to calf and arch cramps. My lower legs are relaxed while I swim and I have those loose 'swimmer's ankles', but still get 'em.
No swim for me on Fridays, but tomorrow afternoon is the old man's 60th birthday swim. 6000 yardages, but I expect to do more... we'll see.
He changed it from starting at 1050 yards and descending by 100 yards to a double pyramid: 2x[100-200-300-400-500-500-400-300-200-100]
Post swim BBQ, but no alcohol allowed :(((
I'm old school. I know I'm going hard when my tongue wags. Tongue — Russ Jones


Printer86

Apr 16, 11 10:45

Post #127 of 222 (1320 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [HalfSpeed] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
As noted in the attached thread, I blew off my race (Beaverdam OLY) this morning because the Weather Channel professed impending doom.

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...;;page=unread#unread

By 11:30am, the storms still hadn't showed up and I felt like a putz. So, It hit the pool for my punishment set of 10 x 300 on :20RI. I'll either run or spin later this afternoon to fully wash off the guilt.
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HalfSpeed

Apr 16, 11 12:24

Post #128 of 222 (1315 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [Printer86] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
If there is any guilt left, something like Guinness should wash it away :)
I'm old school. I know I'm going hard when my tongue wags. Tongue — Russ Jones


Quantum

Apr 16, 11 12:38

Post #129 of 222 (1308 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [Printer86] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
Printer86 wrote:
As noted in the attached thread, I blew off my race (Beaverdam OLY) this morning because the Weather Channel professed impending doom.

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...;;page=unread#unread

By 11:30am, the storms still hadn't showed up and I felt like a putz. So, It hit the pool for my punishment set of 10 x 300 on :20RI. I'll either run or spin later this afternoon to fully wash off the guilt.
That should be sufficient for penance...


Quantum

Apr 16, 11 16:36

Post #130 of 222 (1296 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [tigerchik] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
1000 W/U (400 swim, 300 pull w/paddles, 4x50 build, 100 EZ)
5x (400 free on 5:20, hit 5:00; 6x25 EZ, one minute rest following #6); 4:43, 4:52, 4:50, 4:54, 4:51 (Hard to remember I'm supposed to hit the split, whether I can go faster or no)
150 EZ

3900 SCY


monty

Apr 16, 11 17:14

Post #131 of 222 (1289 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [Quantum] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
Still trying to siwm my way out of last weeks heatstroke, but felt 50% better today than yesterday. Slowly testing my HR here:

5x200swim@3;00- 2;46/;44/;42/;38/;34- 100kick@ 2;00-1;48- 100IM@2;00-1;17
5x100swim@1.30- 1;18/;17/;15/;14/;13- 100kick@2;00- 1;45- 100IM@2;00-1;15
5x50swim@;45- ;38/;36/;35/;34/;330 100 kick@2;00-1;43- 100IM@2;00- 1;14
400 dolphin kick- 7;13
250 swim down breathing opposite side
3000SCY


Quantum

Apr 16, 11 17:16

Post #132 of 222 (1287 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [monty] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
monty wrote:
Still trying to siwm my way out of last weeks heatstroke, but felt 50% better today than yesterday. Slowly testing my HR here:

5x200swim@3;00- 2;46/;44/;42/;38/;34- 100kick@ 2;00-1;48- 100IM@2;00-1;17
5x100swim@1.30- 1;18/;17/;15/;14/;13- 100kick@2;00- 1;45- 100IM@2;00-1;15
5x50swim@;45- ;38/;36/;35/;34/;330 100 kick@2;00-1;43- 100IM@2;00- 1;14
400 dolphin kick- 7;13
250 swim down breathing opposite side
3000SCY
You got heatstroke in Florida?


monty

Apr 16, 11 17:20

Post #133 of 222 (1283 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [Quantum] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
Ya, it was 90 and super humid outside, the race started an hour late and II had no shade waiting for my wave, then the 4k swim was in 80+ degree water. Then it didn't help that I was there for two more day after that trying to get in some easy workouts in that weather, and I ended up feelilng really shitty after a 13 hour travel day home. But it seems to be slowly getting better, so fingers crossed that I can get in 3 or 4 more good ones soon before I have to taper for nats...

I can see how Fran Crippen must have felt, he was doing 6 more k than me in hotter water.


Quantum

Apr 16, 11 18:54

Post #134 of 222 (1270 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [monty] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
That's awful... glad to hear you're on the mend!


HalfSpeed

Apr 16, 11 20:47

Post #135 of 222 (1253 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [monty] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
A friend's birthday (60th) swim tonight.
His plan was 2x[100,200,300,400,500,500,400,300,200,100] based on 2:00/100
I decided to amp it up a bit and base it on1:30 and just keep swimming until they were done. So I added on top of that 100,200,300,400,200,100,100 for 7400 yards total. It went well, in fact wasn't that hard at all except I got many and varied cramps in my lower legs, feet and toes. The last 100 was an IM and 20 yards into the fly, my legs locked up. Probably residual fatigue from last week's race.
I'm old school. I know I'm going hard when my tongue wags. Tongue — Russ Jones

(This post was edited by HalfSpeed on Apr 17, 11 1:38)


realAlbertan

Apr 17, 11 17:08

Post #136 of 222 (1238 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [monty] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
Hope the recovery is going well.

swam 4000 scm this morning

10 x 100 5 sw @1:25/5 pull @1:30

10 x 100 pull w/paddles @1:20

2 x 100 kick with fins 10" rest
4 x 50 swim with fins @60 av 29
6 x 100 swim with fins @ 1:20

10 x 75 pull w/paddles @ 60
250 easy

felt a little flat but made it through...


AdamG1980

Apr 18, 11 6:49

Post #137 of 222 (1227 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [realAlbertan] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
Quick lunchtime recovery swim today, all drills.. was a beautiful 100 miler yesterday and I stupidly took off my arm warmers in as it warmed.. sporting rather fetching arm sunburn today :(

200 w/u
4 x (100 drill, 50 swim)
200 moderate
100 cool down
1100 scm

I was trying particularly to work on my catch after looking at swimsmooth over the weekend. They peg me as an overglider, which seems to make sense since my wrist drops when I extend mainly on the RHS. Tipping my hand down and not deliberately pausing to glide really increased my SPM. Despite the apparent reduction in palm pressure, it felt fast but left me tired. What sort of period are we talking for adaptation as I feel more efficient using the technique (initially - so far untimed)? would it work in a similar way to high cadence cycling, ie. slightly more cardio load but less overall fatigue?


HalfSpeed

Apr 18, 11 7:34

Post #138 of 222 (1221 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [realAlbertan] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
Having a cranky Monday morning, late to the pool...
5x100@1:30
5x100 various kicks
and then my goggles broke, called it off

1000 sc yardages
I'm old school. I know I'm going hard when my tongue wags. Tongue — Russ Jones

(This post was edited by HalfSpeed on Apr 18, 11 7:35)


monty

Apr 18, 11 14:17

Post #139 of 222 (1208 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [realAlbertan] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
Thanks for the support Bo, took yesterday off from swimming and just did a 5 mile run. And felt better today in the pool. also back at sea level and that always makes a difference. Less than two weeks out, so I think I'm just going to do higher quality stuff with longer rest, and overall less yardage. I have a camp next week, so will be forced to take 4 days out of the water, but I'm hoping that will just be the majority of my taper. I can get in on wed to get my feel back, then 1st race on Friday. Not idea, but will have to do.. Todays IM day:

8x100swim@ 1;30- 1;15 to 1;10
5x200@3;00, odds IM, evens pull- IM's 2;38/2;38/2;35- pulls-2;32/2;30
2x(200 back/brst@4;00/2x100IM@2;00)- bk/brst-2;48/2;47- IM's 1;17/;15/;15/13+
2x(100, 1-bk,1-brst@2;00/2x50fly@1;00) bk-1;17/brst-1;26- flys all 35flat
2x200 dolphin kick@4;00-3;36/3;28
100sd
3500SCY


Quantum

Apr 18, 11 16:55

Post #140 of 222 (1195 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [monty] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
More sprint 50s today... ugh, did not feel good doing them.

1200 W/U (500 swim, 400 pull with paddles, 4x50 build, 100 EZ)
6x(50 sprint, 6x25 EZ) 26, 26, 26, 27, 27, 28
200 EZ

I felt super explosive on the first three, and then on #4, its like a switch turned the wrong way... I just couldn't keep my turnover up. Shoulders and lats are a little tight/sore, hopefully they improve by Wednesday. Clearly upping my yardage to 9100 last week was a bold move, and the cause of this.


tigerchik

Apr 18, 11 17:19

Post #141 of 222 (1189 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [HalfSpeed] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
1000 here too, after a 9.5 mile run and before a lifeguarding class.

Being in the pool for a couple hours and not moving enough to keep warm (upside: I must be nice and lean!), not fun. 2 more days.
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xraycharlie

Apr 18, 11 17:40

Post #142 of 222 (1186 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [tigerchik] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
Given that I've registered for the Peaks to Portland swim, maybe I should post some more specific details of my workouts, slow as they may be. This way I can get some suggestions on how best to train. (You know, on the off-chance that maybe someone on the forum has experience with a 2.4 mile open water swim, or something.)

So:
500 warm up
15 x 100 @ 2:00, 1:35 to 1:28
4 x 100 easy backstroke
10 x 100 @ 1:55, fairly consistent at 1:35
4 x 100 easy backstroke, again
10 x 50 @ 2:00, consistently :40
200 easy breaststroke
4 x 100 easy backstroke cool down.

4200 yardages today, along with 5.2 mileages of running (in the vernacular).

And FWIW, my best swim in a HIM was 34:18. That was a September race, with very little swimming after May. And back then, I was struggling to hold 1:40/100. Seems that wetsuit swims are good to me, and I can swim a relatively straight line.
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HalfSpeed

Apr 19, 11 7:53

Post #143 of 222 (1153 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [tigerchik] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
Pulled out my old backup goggles - the one that leave rings around the eyes (gotta go buy a pair, soon!)

4x75 wu
5x100@2:00 goal: 5s less each - 1:20/:15/:10/:05/:00 - Fastest 100 yet!! (even better: I hit these dead on pace I planned)
10x50@1:00 :29-:32
20x25@5sec rest varied stroke/kicks
200 cool

2000 sc yardages
I'm old school. I know I'm going hard when my tongue wags. Tongue — Russ Jones


tigerchik

Apr 19, 11 9:05

Post #144 of 222 (1145 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [HalfSpeed] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
1:15 bike, 6.5 mi run, 1000 yd swim

Then 3 hours in the pool for lifeguarding. I'm recertified!
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HalfSpeed

Apr 19, 11 9:46

Post #145 of 222 (1139 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [tigerchik] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
The guards at the local waterpark use only their whistle, eyes, and waving of arms to convey a message, warning or command to the little splashers. Since they all do it, I figure it's policy to not use words, Or maybe they do the minimum necessary to keep from being fired.

I don't know if they still hold it, but they used to have a race there - dive into the deep end of the wave tank and swim out the beach end, run through the park to various slides and ride them. Swim the lazy river against the current and whatever else. I heard it was pretty taxing/difficult. I know Julie Swail won it one year.
I'm old school. I know I'm going hard when my tongue wags. Tongue — Russ Jones


Printer86

Apr 19, 11 13:38

Post #146 of 222 (1122 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [HalfSpeed] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
Got in the pool today with plans to do 5 x 500. I changed my workout after the first 200.

3 x 200y (:20) 2:42, 2:46, 2:47
1 x 1500y. I didn't want to stop because I was afraid I'd change the plan again. Checked my watch at each 500 (7:11,14:29 & 21:42).

Quick change and then out for a 6.35 mile hilly run (44:09).

They posted the waves for the St. Anthony's race. I start in wave 99 or something. I go off in the last AG wave at 9:00am, just before the TNTers.
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monty

Apr 19, 11 13:50

Post #147 of 222 (1119 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [Printer86] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
Good luck at St. Anthonys, hope you actually get to use your swim fitness this year..

More high intensity long rest stuff for me today, hope this is all going to translate next week;

6x100swim@ 1;30- 1;19 to 1;13
10x75-1st 5-fly/bk/brst@ 1;05-last 5- free@ 1;00- IM's 1;00+, swims-55+
2x200IM@3;30- 2;36/2;32
4x100 IM@2;20- 1;20/;;17/;15/;12+
3x100 back@2;00- 1;20/;18/;18
4x50 fly@1;30/1;20/1;20/1;15/1;10- 34/34/34/32+/32
300pull swim down
2950SCY


Printer86

Apr 19, 11 14:18

Post #148 of 222 (1110 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [monty] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
Thanks Monty. Too bad I suck on the bike. That's my summer project.
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I will be back for the 2014 Boston Marathon just to say FU to the bad guys.


tigerchik

Apr 19, 11 16:12

Post #149 of 222 (1102 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [HalfSpeed] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
The water park race is neat. LG'ing at a water park would be different - I'm certified for pools and lakes. I hear the ocean certification is pretty treacherous.

Kids around here are on April vacation and tomorrow I've offered to take some of my professors' kids swimming. One of the girls has been hanging out in the office because they can't find childcare and she seems kinda content to sit and draw, but tomorrow will be her third day here so I offered to take her swimming if she were comfortable with it and wanted to. Another kid jumped on the bandwagon so I've got 2 tomorrow to play with. The little girl is bringing Candy Land, too :-)
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realAlbertan

Apr 19, 11 22:31

Post #150 of 222 (1090 views)
Re: April Fish Thread [monty] [In reply to] Quote | Reply
monty wrote:
Good luck at St. Anthonys, hope you actually get to use your swim fitness this year..

More high intensity long rest stuff for me today, hope this is all going to translate next week;

6x100swim@ 1;30- 1;19 to 1;13
10x75-1st 5-fly/bk/brst@ 1;05-last 5- free@ 1;00- IM's 1;00+, swims-55+
2x200IM@3;30- 2;36/2;32
4x100 IM@2;20- 1;20/;;17/;15/;12+
3x100 back@2;00- 1;20/;18/;18
4x50 fly@1;30/1;20/1;20/1;15/1;10- 34/34/34/32+/32
300pull swim down
2950SCY

short & sweet tonight...

10 x 100 @ 1;25 (av 1;09)
1000 SCM
straight into a 5km run

since my tri focus will be sprints this summer I figure this type of session is better than staying home... besides it's good prep for those races that don't permit a decent length swim warm up...
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