Does anyone know of a GPS running watch that will let someone track your location without it being paired to a cell phone? It seems like it should exist because the watch is being tracked by GPS anyway. My issue is that I frequently do long trail runs in areas without cell service, so a watch having to be paired with a cell phone is useless. However, if I don't come home when I am supposed to (let's say I take a nasty fall) it would be good for him to be able to track my location so I am not out on the trail exposed to the elements for a couple of days.
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Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [happyscientist]
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I thought the only one that did this went out of business last year. If I remember right the hard part is you need the cell signal to go outbound from the watch, which needs to be hooked up to some network.
Great thread title by the way.
Great thread title by the way.
Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [happyscientist]
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I think the only reasonable way that would be technically possible would be to have the watch include a cellular chip so it can communicate directly with whatever service is receiving the update of your position. If you're somewhere without cell coverage it won't matter because it won't connect. There are other ways to do it but it would cost serious money, such as Brietling's SOS watch and not really what you're looking for.
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Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [happyscientist]
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Does anyone know of a GPS running watch that will let someone track your location without it being paired to a cell phone? ... My issue is that I frequently do long trail runs in areas without cell service
Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [happyscientist]
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They make these types of things for kids: https://www.walmart.com/...h-for-Kids/881791514
Hasn't translated to the adult market hat I'm aware of.
Hasn't translated to the adult market hat I'm aware of.
Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [happyscientist]
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How about a Quarq qollector? https://www.quarq.com/...az80craszw1n5oudj16v
Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [happyscientist]
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You can use the Strava App on the new LG Watch Sport.
Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [happyscientist]
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Timex has/had one that did this, but I believe it required a LTE signal.
Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [happyscientist]
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It's not a watch but if you're really concerned about this you could put a SPOT tracker on your pack.
https://www.findmespot.com/en/
https://www.findmespot.com/en/
Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [GreenPlease]
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How about a Quarq qollector? https://www.quarq.com/...az80craszw1n5oudj16v
You can use the Strava App on the new LG Watch Sport.
Both require cell service.
You can use the Strava App on the new LG Watch Sport.
Both require cell service.
Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [logella]
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I have one of those for bike touring. It is heavy and requires an expensive subscription.
Edit: It looks like they now make them smaller, but I would rather not carry anything extra.
Edit: It looks like they now make them smaller, but I would rather not carry anything extra.
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Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [happyscientist]
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I have one of those for bike touring. It is heavy and requires an expensive subscription.At 114g it's lighter than a Fenix 5 with metal band or slightly heavier that the plastic band Fenix 5.
Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [happyscientist]
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before reading I thought the title meant you were looking for something to help him slim down
actual meaning is funnier, in that grim way
actual meaning is funnier, in that grim way
Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [happyscientist]
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Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [kiki]
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kiki wrote:
before reading I thought the title meant you were looking for something to help him slim down actual meaning is funnier, in that grim way
I thought about saying so he could find my body, but that would have been asking for trouble.
Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [happyscientist]
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happyscientist wrote:
Does anyone know of a GPS running watch that will let someone track your location without it being paired to a cell phone? It seems like it should exist because the watch is being tracked by GPS anyway. My issue is that I frequently do long trail runs in areas without cell service, so a watch having to be paired with a cell phone is useless. However, if I don't come home when I am supposed to (let's say I take a nasty fall) it would be good for him to be able to track my location so I am not out on the trail exposed to the elements for a couple of days.Your GPS watch isn't broadcasting anything, nor is it being "tracked." A GPS device calculates its position based on broadcasts from 3 or more GPS satellites via triangulation. The GPS satellites aren't tracking anything, they just broadcast a signal that is picked up by a GPS device. If cell service doesn't exist, then you have to go to something like the SPOT tracker that can talk to communications satellites.
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Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [happyscientist]
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I've seen similar posts where people recommend one of the various pet tracking devices on the market. Assuming it's truly just for tracking and no metrics or super-precise tracking is necessary - seems like that might work?
Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [spot]
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Ok, so are you saying that the watch just stores information it receives from the satellite rather than the satellites being aware that the watch even exists and that is why none of them do it?
ETA: This thread has made me aware that there are a lot of people who can't comprehend the idea of no cell service.
ETA: This thread has made me aware that there are a lot of people who can't comprehend the idea of no cell service.
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Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [spot]
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spot wrote:
happyscientist wrote:
Does anyone know of a GPS running watch that will let someone track your location without it being paired to a cell phone? It seems like it should exist because the watch is being tracked by GPS anyway. My issue is that I frequently do long trail runs in areas without cell service, so a watch having to be paired with a cell phone is useless. However, if I don't come home when I am supposed to (let's say I take a nasty fall) it would be good for him to be able to track my location so I am not out on the trail exposed to the elements for a couple of days.Your GPS watch isn't broadcasting anything, nor is it being "tracked." A GPS device calculates its position based on broadcasts from 3 or more GPS satellites via triangulation. The GPS satellites aren't tracking anything, they just broadcast a signal that is picked up by a GPS device. If cell service doesn't exist, then you have to go to something like the SPOT tracker that can talk to communications satellites.
Agreed. OP seems to want something to use without cell service, but doesn't want the bulk or carrying anything extra.
Without wanting to use the SPOT tracker or Garmin Inreach then I suggest the method I used for many, many years before GPS watches ever became a thing. I'd have set-routes and when I left I would communicate which route I was taking, how long I planned to be gone, and I usually clarified a "not to worry until this time." Just takes some communication.
If that's not a possibility then really I'd recommend the SPOT tracker or Garmin Inreach. yes, plans can be expensive, but if you're seriously concerned about your safety then I'd argue that it is a fairly small price to pay for your safety.
Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [happyscientist]
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happyscientist wrote:
Ok, so are you saying that the watch just stores information it receives from the satellite rather than the satellites being aware that the watch even exists and that is why none of them do it?Yup, exactly. Essentially, all a GPS satellite is doing is sending a highly precise time signal. Your watch receives this signal, and is able to calculate how far away the satellite is. With enough time signals from different GPS satellites, your watch will triangulate your position in 3 dimensions (lat/long/elevation). Your watch is purely a receiver, and doesn't broadcast anything to the GPS sats, which in turn don't have any capability to receive anything from your watch.
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Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [happyscientist]
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Exactly, your watch is a receiver. Sending information about your location requires a transmitter...e.g. cell phone. In areas without cell service you might have repeater coverage for a 2M handheld radio with APRS, but that is even larger than a cell phone. It is, however, a solution I have used for mountain biking and remote hiking/kayaking.
Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [happyscientist]
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Curious if you ever find one...
I lug around my Garmin inReach Explorer. It is a satellite communicator that allows SOS and texting. Most of my trail runs are long enough where I'm carrying my hydration pack so I just stick it in there. I turn on tracking and anybody who I send the link to can see my progress in real time. When I start I text a trusted friend and they know that if they don't hear from me when I said I'd be done + 1 hour they need to panic. They get my GPS location and a link to the map where they can track me.
I've never called for a helicopter or had a rescue for myself, but twice I've used it to have hikers rescued. One with a broken femur from a river crossing gone bad and another from a probable heart attack (the man was the wrong color - kind of grey). I've had it for ~10 years or so.
No matter what, take a whistle. I never would have known about femur guy if he hadn't been blowing his whistle... another argument against earbuds on trails.
It isn't cheap, but it was a whole lot cheaper than my Fenix 5.
Hillary Trout
San Luis Obispo, CA
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I lug around my Garmin inReach Explorer. It is a satellite communicator that allows SOS and texting. Most of my trail runs are long enough where I'm carrying my hydration pack so I just stick it in there. I turn on tracking and anybody who I send the link to can see my progress in real time. When I start I text a trusted friend and they know that if they don't hear from me when I said I'd be done + 1 hour they need to panic. They get my GPS location and a link to the map where they can track me.
I've never called for a helicopter or had a rescue for myself, but twice I've used it to have hikers rescued. One with a broken femur from a river crossing gone bad and another from a probable heart attack (the man was the wrong color - kind of grey). I've had it for ~10 years or so.
No matter what, take a whistle. I never would have known about femur guy if he hadn't been blowing his whistle... another argument against earbuds on trails.
It isn't cheap, but it was a whole lot cheaper than my Fenix 5.
Hillary Trout
San Luis Obispo, CA
Your trip is short. Make the most of it.
https://www.slogoing.net/
Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [SLOgoing]
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I do need to carry a whistle. I carry a space blanket, but that is really it for safety gear.
Re: A watch so my husband can find the body [spot]
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Actually, the correct term is trilateration, not triangulation. The former uses ranges and intersection of circles or spheres, while the latter uses angles.
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Author of "Letters to a Driving Nation: Exploring the Conflict between Drivers and Cyclists." http://www.brucebutler.ca
It's thru your phone, but I think RoadID has an app that tracks. You can send text messages of start and stop times and also if you stop moving for a given amount of time. I only used it a handful of times and really didn't dig into it too much but it may be worth checking out. I'm pretty sure it was free.