No, it's not "odd" at all. Sure, there is another side (there is always another side!), and I suspect we had a snippet of it from the earlier poster who - suspiciously on their first ever post - came on to ST to give a very implausible excuse for what happened. I'm sure something like that will be her story and she'll stick to it. If there is hard photo/video evidence of what she did, then her only possible excuse would be that she mistook the bike for a friend's, but - and assuming this is the story she wants to stick to - who was that friend and why did they want her to adjust their tire pressure just before transition closed?

And I'm sure that, just like those friends of Julie Miller and Amy Stretton, you may think this lady is a "really nice person" and no doubt she is in everyday life. But these "super nice people" also sometimes cheat in sports. That's just a fact of life. Even Canadians! :)

The only thing currently working in her favor is that she doesn't have a double letter combo in her name...

WTC took months to DQ Julie Miller. They are not known for their quick decision making. They came to the conclusion to DQ this athlete on raceday, therefore the evidence must have been compelling.

What IS the other side of the story? Sounds like your personal relationship is obfuscating your judgment, and that's okay, because that's typically normal, just like Julie Miller's friends or friends of any athlete that has been caught doing something against the rules.

Can you say snowflakes? :)

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Come on both sides really? This is as bad as the people defending the girl from NZ, thinking that somehow she maybe was just that good on the swim that day to beat all the pro men. I'm sure she just accidently found the wrong bike with all the wrong stuff on it and didn't notice.

You would think they would be all over this if they were innocent. Even if they are not innocent....nobody got hurt (luckily) so why not use their poor judgement to be an example of what not to do...and own their bad decision, explain how it has effected her, explain why it's not worth cheating...fall on the sword. That would seem like a logical approach....then again, it appears she may not be logical.

Here's a way back machine capture of the Triathlon Magazine Canada article. Nothing is ever really deleted on the web....

https://web.archive.org/...onman-70-3-syracuse/

Nice and bat shit crazy competitive to the point of losing rational judgement can co exist in the same person, and Canadians are just as likely to have this tendency as Icelanders, Germans, Americans, Malaysians....we don't have an exemption on "batshit crazy competitive nice people".

Nust respondig to this as it's most recent. I like Fleck and all, but I don't think when you decide if she's guilty or not (which, as you must admit appears a little biased, if not actually so) as WTC has already decided- the only vote that counts. I don't see anyone complaining about the actual DQ. For once the RD beat ST to the twitchhunt

That's speculation worthy of Fox News!

I'd like to hear the other side of the story...but as I posted previously...


If she was inflating someone elses tire, who were there, what as their bib, and did they give prior consent/okay with her doing this?

Why did she let air out of the tire instead of putting air in? Did a valve extender blow?

Did she even have a bike pump with her?


If there is another side of the story we sure haven't heard it besides one new account saying she supposedly was helping some unknown person. I'm struggling to find any valid reason to touch another competitors equipment in transition zone without them being there or giving them permission.

Well per the original post: The incident occurred in transition just after the victim left her bike in transition to head to the swim start.


I don't see how the DQ'd athlete goes into action immediately after the victim leaves, unless they had a very close eye on the victim's whereabouts. Should I have used 'shadowed' them or 'ambushed' the prey's bike after they left? (sarcasm or sadly, maybe not in the eyes of the DQ'd athlete). Crazy.

Not Tom Brady.

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Anyone else notice that the article on triathlete.ca has been removed? Any ideas why this would be?//

Probably because the entire thing was lifted off this forum thread without any due diligence. That is why dan goes in and trims these threads and does his warnings, until he is done with his research and can write a legitimate article with some actual facts. All they really did was print you alls rush to judgement and someone figured out a lot of it is just hogwash and speculation !!!

so the Original poster, as well as the accounts of eyewitnesses here are lying? who knows why triathlete magazine took it down maybe she has an in with the editor, thats more plausible then her original explanation

Exhibit A would be the Seoul 1988 finals. If you ever met Ben Johnson he is as nice as a Teddy Bear. Seriously one of the nicest down to earth guys around, but hey, no limits doping to beat Carl Lewis (probably at the other side of the batshit crazy competitive asshole set, but Lance managed to one up him)

OK back to the thread...We have Kristen Johnson, Tom Brady, Lionel Messi, and Christiano Ronaldo all competing for GOAT status.

Those are roughly my stats... same weight, maybe lower watts but pretty good aero position... I haven't done LP in a long time (2004) but I rode it in 5:45 that year... I'm typically one of the fastest riders in my AG (e.g. 2nd fastest bike in my AG in Kona last year, won my AG at IMSA this year with fastest bike)

Actually I think Monty's guess is more plausible. The piece was just reporting the OP here, with little factual evidence (in the piece). Yes, there had been a DQ, but essentially it was a fluff piece citing an anonymous, online source. It wouldn't take much for them to decide themselves there was little merit in keeping it there, although it could also have been some threat of legal action from Ms Johnson's lawyer.

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.....AND the Facebook account is deactivated. I remember this happening shortly after the NZ girl incident as well. But I'm sure it is just a coincidence.

I would assume some course of legal intervention had them take it down... But then this page would be subject to the same legal pressure.

her coach and team dropping her are the most damning... The people who know her and are her friends

yea innocent people go silent and disappear.

Fascinating for sure, but this is really just a little exaggerated version of how media and propaganda works, how political campigns attempt to sway public opinion in their favour, how one assembles support for a war, etc.. *ponderings-of-life over, carry on*

At Eagleman in 2014 I had my di2 battery unplugged basically giving my a fixie before I figured out what happened. I ended up signing up for Tremblant and KQ'd there so karma was on my side.

I think what is also (more) fascinating is how friends and acquaintances tend to want to believe the accused, despite strong evidence of their guilt. It's a bit like the people who are holding placards in support of Bill Cosby. In fact, those 'protesters' are even more weird, assuming they are not actually 'real' friends of Cosby, but rather just die-hard TV fans. Something like 50 women have accused him of improper acts and yet some people still think there's a giant conspiracy against him?! Of course it feeds into politics too, moreso when you have a politician who also has a TV fan base. The fact that Trump can be caught on tape saying he can grab a woman where he wants and then still get elected is pretty incredible. People's biases are very hard to overcome, whether it's born out of a friendship or 'fandom.' Fleck is a smart guy, and yet even he seems to have fallen into this 'friendship bias' (for want of a better term).

...and Fleck: if you are privy to a believable other side to the story, let's hear it!