Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [burnman] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 9:07

Post #426 of 1001 (16129 views)

burnman wrote:

Bryancd wrote:

The big money sponsors have moved on, long course triathlon just doesn't provide a spectator/TV experience that has enough value.

NBCsports aired coverage of IMMT following one of the TdF stage recaps last week (so, 11:00pm EST). I was hoping that two words would come to mind, but only one word sufficiently described it: awful. As a relatively interested party, I couldn't watch beyond the second commercial break.

If this sport's viability lies on the broadcast route, then there's one hell of a mountain to climb!

The sport's professional viability does rely on broadcast coverage, and that's why the US's focus on 140.6 is hurting it. Draft-legal sprint or Olympic races would be much more telegenic. You wouldn't be able to have the age groupers on course with them, of course. The whole current model does not work, and will not work, no matter how many wish sandwiches STers eat.

The point is, ladies and gentleman, that speed, for lack of a better word, is good. Speed is right, Speed works. Speed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.

Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [TheRealStarky] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 9:26

Post #427 of 1001 (16098 views)

LOL and your point? Kim Kardashian could raise that in about 10 seconds and have more followers clipping her toe-nails. Hell... 18K+ people will follow the fat kid discussing snacks (https://www.youtube.com/user/Thefoodreviewer)

Even BOWLING gets more TV coverage than triathlon. Not that is wrong. WTC can make far more money selling the Kona dream to AGers and just need to spend more money to clone Mike Reilly than anything else.

The future of the sport is far fewer pros having larger portions of smaller purses.

But there is a great point in here as well... If TheRealStarky is good at raising money for finishers... Really the WTC should concede the purses as a whole and leave it up to TheRealStarky to raise and fund the purses. If everyone of TRS followers ponied up $100 each, then that is almost the KONA purse. I might even send that suggestion along the Andy Messick that their purses are no longer needed and TRS has it covered

Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [Cobble] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:00

Post #428 of 1001 (15965 views)

Cobble wrote:

I think this is ridiculous, a bunch of internet clowns that do nothing but piss people off from behind an (originally) anonymous twitter account should be the last people to try to 'make a change'. If I was Messick I would laugh about this whole thing. So you collect some money for IMLP 7th place finisher and then what? Will you do the same for all the other IM races? Nobody cares about what you do but yourself (to fullfill your need of short term attention). In fact continuously trying to shame Messick and expecting the outcome to be that he listens to you is about as dumb as things get.

I would love to see the pros in our sport get paid more, but this is absolutely not the way to do it. You have zero credibility and trustworthiness.

UPDATE: Without any comment (thus far), Ironman has bumped the prize purse from $25,000 to $75,000. It now also pays 8 deep. Find the updated prize purse on page 10 of the athlete guide.

http://www.ironman.com/triathlon/events/americas/ironman/lake-placid/athletes/athlete-guide.aspx#axzz38DQ8xNMV

...dipshit.

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Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [Dark Mark] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:02

Post #429 of 1001 (15956 views)

Ah sweeeeeeeeet, so is this now "9th is the new 1st" campaign?

ETA: Well done!!!

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Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [Dark Mark] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:07

Post #430 of 1001 (15939 views)

So are we going to pay out 9th now?

Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [noofus] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:09

Post #431 of 1001 (15931 views)

If you donated, you'll have a chance to vote on what we do at this point.

You did donate, didn't you?

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Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [Dark Mark] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:10

Post #432 of 1001 (15929 views)

Dark Mark wrote:

If you donated, you'll have a chance to vote on what we do at this point.

You did donate, didn't you?

Sure did

Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [Dark Mark] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:12

Post #433 of 1001 (15916 views)

Will be interesting to see how that vote resolves. In keeping with the spirit if this, it would make sense to pay down to 9th now.

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Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [Dark Mark] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:16

Post #434 of 1001 (15897 views)

HOLY SHIT IT WORKED

Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [Cobble] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:19

Post #435 of 1001 (15883 views)

Cobble wrote:

I think this is ridiculous, a bunch of internet clowns that do nothing but piss people off from behind an (originally) anonymous twitter account should be the last people to try to 'make a change'. If I was Messick I would laugh about this whole thing. So you collect some money for IMLP 7th place finisher and then what? Will you do the same for all the other IM races? Nobody cares about what you do but yourself (to fullfill your need of short term attention). In fact continuously trying to shame Messick and expecting the outcome to be that he listens to you is about as dumb as things get.

I would love to see the pros in our sport get paid more, but this is absolutely not the way to do it. You have zero credibility and trustworthiness.

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Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [Dark Mark] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:27

Post #436 of 1001 (15846 views)

Dark Mark wrote:

Cobble wrote:

I think this is ridiculous, a bunch of internet clowns that do nothing but piss people off from behind an (originally) anonymous twitter account should be the last people to try to 'make a change'. If I was Messick I would laugh about this whole thing. So you collect some money for IMLP 7th place finisher and then what? Will you do the same for all the other IM races? Nobody cares about what you do but yourself (to fullfill your need of short term attention). In fact continuously trying to shame Messick and expecting the outcome to be that he listens to you is about as dumb as things get.

I would love to see the pros in our sport get paid more, but this is absolutely not the way to do it. You have zero credibility and trustworthiness.

UPDATE: Without any comment (thus far), Ironman has bumped the prize purse from $25,000 to $75,000. It now also pays 8 deep. Find the updated prize purse on page 10 of the athlete guide.

http://www.ironman.com/triathlon/events/americas/ironman/lake-placid/athletes/athlete-guide.aspx#axzz38DQ8xNMV

...dipshit.

Going to be a lot of back peddling and "what I meant was..." post coming

Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [Maui5150] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:37

Post #437 of 1001 (15790 views)

I say take all the money and keep it rolling for 11th in hawaii. Now if there was ever a race and race finisher who really gets screwed, it is the bubble in hawaii. It used to be top 15 places in my day, and that was even considered slim for a supposed world champs. What does everyone think about that?? And if it is publicity you are after, no bigger stage than hawaii. Imagine all of it being caught on national TV, 3 or 4 guys waiting at the finish line to get out of the top 10!!!

Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [Dark Mark] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:37

Post #438 of 1001 (15788 views)

Dark Mark wrote:

Cobble wrote:

I think this is ridiculous, a bunch of internet clowns that do nothing but piss people off from behind an (originally) anonymous twitter account should be the last people to try to 'make a change'. If I was Messick I would laugh about this whole thing. So you collect some money for IMLP 7th place finisher and then what? Will you do the same for all the other IM races? Nobody cares about what you do but yourself (to fullfill your need of short term attention). In fact continuously trying to shame Messick and expecting the outcome to be that he listens to you is about as dumb as things get.

I would love to see the pros in our sport get paid more, but this is absolutely not the way to do it. You have zero credibility and trustworthiness.

UPDATE: Without any comment (thus far), Ironman has bumped the prize purse from $25,000 to $75,000. It now also pays 8 deep. Find the updated prize purse on page 10 of the athlete guide.

http://www.ironman.com/triathlon/events/americas/ironman/lake-placid/athletes/athlete-guide.aspx#axzz38DQ8xNMV

...dipshit.

BOOOOOM! Party on boys!

Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [btmoney] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:38

Post #439 of 1001 (15785 views)

btmoney wrote:

HOLY SHIT IT WORKED

x2

Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [monty] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:40

Post #440 of 1001 (15778 views)

monty wrote:

I say take all the money and keep it rolling for 11th in hawaii. Now if there was ever a race and race finisher who really gets screwed, it is the bubble in hawaii. It used to be top 15 places in my day, and that was even considered slim for a supposed world champs. What does everyone think about that?? And if it is publicity you are after, no bigger stage than hawaii. Imagine all of it being caught on national TV, 3 or 4 guys waiting at the finish line to get out of the top 10!!!

Great idea!

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Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [monty] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:43

Post #441 of 1001 (15753 views)

What's the current Kona purse breakdown?

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Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [monty] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:44

Post #442 of 1001 (15749 views)

We will include this as an option. If you donate, you can vote. We aren't done yet.

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Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [Dark Mark] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:46

Post #443 of 1001 (15723 views)

Dark Mark wrote:

Cobble wrote:

I think this is ridiculous, a bunch of internet clowns that do nothing but piss people off from behind an (originally) anonymous twitter account should be the last people to try to 'make a change'. If I was Messick I would laugh about this whole thing. So you collect some money for IMLP 7th place finisher and then what? Will you do the same for all the other IM races? Nobody cares about what you do but yourself (to fullfill your need of short term attention). In fact continuously trying to shame Messick and expecting the outcome to be that he listens to you is about as dumb as things get.

I would love to see the pros in our sport get paid more, but this is absolutely not the way to do it. You have zero credibility and trustworthiness.

UPDATE: Without any comment (thus far), Ironman has bumped the prize purse from $25,000 to $75,000. It now also pays 8 deep. Find the updated prize purse on page 10 of the athlete guide.

http://www.ironman.com/triathlon/events/americas/ironman/lake-placid/athletes/athlete-guide.aspx#axzz38DQ8xNMV

...dipshit.

Back to what it was a few years ago, still not what it was many years ago.

Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [Dark Mark] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:48

Post #444 of 1001 (15717 views)

Great work, impressed by what yall are changing. Let's hope maybe yall get some bargaining power and WTC "sees the light". I didn't think it would, I was wrong on that point. I hope it continues to improve the pros' plight. Carry on!!!!

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Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [burnman] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:49

Post #445 of 1001 (15707 views)

What's the current Kona purse breakdown?//

I don't know, someone with more search skills will have to ferret that out. Their site always frustrates me as to how hard it is to find things. Must be the same guy that does Ironmanlive coverage�.

But pretty sure that 11th gets a handshake, a hug from a volunteer, a thanks for coming, and a see you back next year first loser!!!!

Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [Dark Mark] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:51

Post #446 of 1001 (15694 views)

I saw a coach I respect donate (ianpeace) on here, so i'm going to donate as well. But because I'm late to the party, I refrain from voting.

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Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [JayZ] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 11:52

Post #447 of 1001 (15694 views)

JayZ wrote:

btmoney wrote:

HOLY SHIT IT WORKED

x2

Looks more like damage control, squashing this before it gains too mich momentum. I'd agree to let it roll right into Kona, on their biggest stage.

Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [Dark Mark] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 12:00

Post #448 of 1001 (15650 views)

Dark Mark wrote:

Cobble wrote:

I think this is ridiculous, a bunch of internet clowns that do nothing but piss people off from behind an (originally) anonymous twitter account should be the last people to try to 'make a change'. If I was Messick I would laugh about this whole thing. So you collect some money for IMLP 7th place finisher and then what? Will you do the same for all the other IM races? Nobody cares about what you do but yourself (to fullfill your need of short term attention). In fact continuously trying to shame Messick and expecting the outcome to be that he listens to you is about as dumb as things get.

I would love to see the pros in our sport get paid more, but this is absolutely not the way to do it. You have zero credibility and trustworthiness.

UPDATE: Without any comment (thus far), Ironman has bumped the prize purse from $25,000 to $75,000. It now also pays 8 deep. Find the updated prize purse on page 10 of the athlete guide.

http://www.ironman.com/triathlon/events/americas/ironman/lake-placid/athletes/athlete-guide.aspx#axzz38DQ8xNMV

...dipshit.

Please also keep a close watch on the entry fee for this and next year. When they also, without comment, bump it $50 for each participant to cover your little stunt.

Change!!

Oh....but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to also call you a "dipshit" because apparently you are protected under "humor" while the rest of us are not.

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Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [Dark Mark] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 12:01

Post #449 of 1001 (15648 views)

Dark Mark wrote:

If you donated, you'll have a chance to vote on what we do at this point.

You did donate, didn't you?

Nope.

You should raise some money for the computer tech at your company who is making peanuts because people in India will literally take 3 peanuts a day to do his job.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

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Re: 7th is the new 1st: IRONMAN LAKE PLACID PRIZE PURSE [Jamaican] [ In reply to ]

Jul 22, 14 12:03

Post #450 of 1001 (15633 views)

Jamaican wrote:

JayZ wrote:

btmoney wrote:

HOLY SHIT IT WORKED

x2

Looks more like damage control, squashing this before it gains too mich momentum. I'd agree to let it roll right into Kona, on their biggest stage.

To put this into perspective, the 7th place (stunt) award for IMLP is a relatively large sum on a relatively small race stage. IOW, 6th pro at IMLP doesn't carry nearly as much clout as 10th pro at Kona. You can argue that neither are amazing accomplishments, but one certainly carries greater weight (especially with sponsors).

Accordingly, the rolled (stunt) purse to Kona will need to be a sum large enough that a pro actually entertains the idea of trading a top 10 Kona finish for a greater payday. I'm not sure what that sum is, but my guess is that it's in excess of $10k. Also keep in mind that most top 10 contenders are sponsored, and their contracts may not be stunt-proof.

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