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Joe M

Apr 3, 11 8:04

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Lance and Bonney IM training?

http://twitpic.com/4gj6ly

Probably... just a matter of when... IMHO


AlexG

Apr 3, 11 8:07

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Yea there was race today and lance came in behind James Cotter in third place. Can't find what race it was.


Quantum

Apr 3, 11 8:12

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AlexG wrote:
Yea there was race today and lance came in behind James Cotter in third place. Can't find what race it was.
A little twitter investigation, and it was the RLE Open Water swim; he finished the iron-distance in 48-high, apparently.


Joe M

Apr 3, 11 8:16

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And to think... Lance's original natural talent was swimming... if my memory is correct...his high school swim coach tried to talk him into training for the olympics as a swimmer.... 48 is NOT shabby at ALL.


threepiece

Apr 3, 11 9:05

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I'll attribute the relative silence on this to it being sunday morning but 48:xx sounds pretty fast to me. Can we finally put to bed the theory that Lance will have to make up time to the top contenders on the bike? He will be right there with them and ride away. Can we add 5 minutes or so to this guess his IM time? Somebody asked him on his twitter yesterday straight up if he was going to do Kona and he replied no. I bet he does a lesser ironman. The lesser competition would mean he would definitely be competing for the win.


M Ernst

Apr 3, 11 9:51

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I want to see him compete. This is compelling.


need4speed

Apr 3, 11 10:00

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I said a long time ago on this forum in one of the ten-bazillion lance threads that his swim is going to shock people. If he doesn't melt down in the heat in Hawaii he is in the top 10 for sure, maybe top 5 -- if he can get there before he gets much older. I don't know if he will be able to do the run training required without getting injured.


Paulo Sousa

Apr 3, 11 10:03

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spomeroy

Apr 3, 11 10:09

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..somewhere I think some map pro triathletes just took a mental collective shit..

"wait..what? the guy might be out there in the lead group OUT of the water and THEN hit the bike?.."

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techknowgn

Apr 3, 11 10:16

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pretty exciting. Kona will be worth the live internet feed this year.
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Apr 3, 11 10:21

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Paulo Sousa wrote:
This thread needs SpeedRacer1 and FastandFun.


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rayyantoh

Apr 3, 11 10:36

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threepiece wrote:
Somebody asked him on his twitter yesterday straight up if he was going to do Kona and he replied no.

I dont mean to correct you but:

somebody: Dear @lancearmstrong,are u gonna compete for the next ironman KONA?

lance: @terkster possibly


drewmc3656

Apr 3, 11 10:36

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Just curious, but why do so many people seem to think that Armstrong will be able to ride so much faster than someone like Lieto? And speaking of Lieto, we've all seen what happens to those who just kill it on the bike--they get hammered on the run. What's different about Armstrong doing it than Lieto?


Joe M

Apr 3, 11 10:39

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When you look at Lance's 1st time attempts at a marathon, IM distance swim, and (well) the bike (of course)...also, lets not forget he was a junior "wonder kid" when he did pro level triathlons during high school (and perhaps - jr. high as well - can't remember when he did his first non-junior tri - perhaps the President's Tri in Dallas/Las Colinas???? mid- 80's?... I remember (vaguely) the race - I was there competing...and I believe he was leading up til the run...when he was run down by a "big name" pro in the very last portion of the run...? ).

This guy is a natural born multisport athlete who has a LOT of potential...no doubt if he can stay healthy and train correctly... he could easily have the potential to finish in the top 10 at KONA in a few years (or less... would not surprise me either).

I've been waiting for him to do an IM for many years... can't wait for it to be a reality.... fingers crossed.


MOP_Mike

Apr 3, 11 10:40

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drewmc3656 wrote:
Just curious, but why do so many people seem to think that Armstrong will be able to ride so much faster than someone like Lieto? And speaking of Lieto, we've all seen what happens to those who just kill it on the bike--they get hammered on the run. What's different about Armstrong doing it than Lieto?

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Joe M

Apr 3, 11 10:45

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Just curious, but why do so many people seem to think that Armstrong will be able to ride so much faster than someone like Lieto? And speaking of Lieto, we've all seen what happens to those who just kill it on the bike--they get hammered on the run. What's different about Armstrong doing it than Lieto?

Because he can - perhaps? but... yea... I agree... the big question is probably still the run after the bike... but, I don't think anyone should doubt Lances biking skills on any level...and, few should sell short Lance's potential for becoming a strong runner. The guy is an aerobic machine...no doubt. And...aerobic machines win IM's.


drewmc3656

Apr 3, 11 10:45

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Haha, true. Don't get me wrong I am a Lance supporter in that I think he is a great athlete and has done some great things with his foundation. I just could see the scenario playing out where Lance kills the bike only to be passed late in the run by someone like Raelert (both will be at Kona this year)


iron_mike

Apr 3, 11 10:59

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definitely a very good time, but to be fair, they appear to be wearing wetsuits in that pic. speaking as someone who's a medium-OK swimmer and stronger biker, i will say the wetsuit gives me a minute or two . . .

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dgunthert

Apr 3, 11 11:04

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drewmc3656 wrote:
Just curious, but why do so many people seem to think that Armstrong will be able to ride so much faster than someone like Lieto? And speaking of Lieto, we've all seen what happens to those who just kill it on the bike--they get hammered on the run. What's different about Armstrong doing it than Lieto?

Because while the pros are great athletes in great shape, they don't rise to the level of a pro cyclist. A seven time winner of the TdF, finished 2nd 2 years ago and top 25 last year. Do you really think that him riding at 70-75% of his FTP isn't going to be measurably faster than Lieto and others at the same % of their FTP?


Spiridon Louis

Apr 3, 11 11:10

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I think Lance would be first off the bike in any triathlon he did right now. I think he'd get run down by an elite pro field, but that's what it would take to do it.


jlafren42

Apr 3, 11 11:14

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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [drewmc3656] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Does anyone remember what Steve Larsen did on the bike at Hawaii in 2003?
And you knew he was going to tear through the bike and get to the front, making so-called bike specialists look like they were standing still (when you make Normann Stadler say after the Hawaii Ironman in 2003 he passed me like a motorbike, that constitutes being on another level).

Does anyone believe that Lance couldn't be every bit as dominant on the bike? I would imagine he can lead by a pretty good margin off the bike with less effort than the guys close to him and run 2:55, it just depends on what anyone else can do.


Just curious what would he have to do to get a pro card? it would be awkward to have him racing against the times of the pros from behind?
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%FTP

Apr 3, 11 11:15

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MOP_Mike wrote:
drewmc3656 wrote:

I can think of seven things...

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tritbay

Apr 3, 11 11:41

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I think that LA is just going to show up somewhere without fanfair. His Speed Concept will suddenly appear in transition without him putting it there as everyone's attention will be on the start. He'll just be another guy in a wetsuit at the start line. That would be the ideal first race.


Power13

Apr 3, 11 11:45

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drewmc3656 wrote:
Just curious, but why do so many people seem to think that Armstrong will be able to ride so much faster than someone like Lieto? And speaking of Lieto, we've all seen what happens to those who just kill it on the bike--they get hammered on the run. What's different about Armstrong doing it than Lieto?

See Stadler, Norman.

(I'll leave aside the idea that Lieto is in the same league as LA on the bike.)
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Granpa Chook

Apr 3, 11 11:53

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jlafren42 wrote:
Does anyone remember what Steve Larsen did on the bike at Hawaii in 2003?
And you knew he was going to tear through the bike and get to the front, making so-called bike specialists look like they were standing still (when you make Normann Stadler say after the Hawaii Ironman in 2003 he passed me like a motorbike, that constitutes being on another level).

Does anyone believe that Lance couldn't be every bit as dominant on the bike? I would imagine he can lead by a pretty good margin off the bike with less effort than the guys close to him and run 2:55, it just depends on what anyone else can do.


Just curious what would he have to do to get a pro card? it would be awkward to have him racing against the times of the pros from behind?

Larsen was in 2001.


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