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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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@Lance Armstrong
Ran race #2 in the Santa Barbara Trail Series this. Was advertised to be 8.5 miles. Felt like 20. The downhills absolutely killed me.

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Hugh - It does appear Lance is racing various run distances and type...
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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [Joe M] [ In reply to ]
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Joe M wrote:
@Lance Armstrong
Ran race #2 in the Santa Barbara Trail Series this. Was advertised to be 8.5 miles. Felt like 20. The downhills absolutely killed me.

Tweet 4/9/2011

Hugh - It does appear Lance is racing various run distances and type...

And the word was that most of the 34 other participants didn't realize who he was during the race.........
just another runner.

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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [sciguy] [ In reply to ]
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sciguy wrote:
Joe M wrote:
@Lance Armstrong
Ran race #2 in the Santa Barbara Trail Series this. Was advertised to be 8.5 miles. Felt like 20. The downhills absolutely killed me.

Tweet 4/9/2011

Hugh - It does appear Lance is racing various run distances and type...


And the word was that most of the 34 other participants didn't realize who he was during the race.........
just another runner.

Hugh


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You mean that there wasn't a television network there broadcasting live coverage?But,but it was Lance and the race director could have made millions on the tv rights..;-)


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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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You mean that there wasn't a television network there broadcasting lie coverage?But,but it was Lance and the race director could have made millions on the tv rights..;-)

The Zazoosh photo guy is peeing himself right now.




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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [Green Barf] [ In reply to ]
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These posts are really funny for over a year people are whining how can Lance get in Kona without qualifying. Please I am not pro or anti Lance but i mean really he has won the tour 7 times. His marathon time of 2:45 is a marginal time for an elite but ther just is so much hype surrounding this entrance to the race. he wants to do it let hiim in. His entrance to the sport will show really how different our sport is and how good the top athletes are. I mean if the top couple of girls beat him then it shows the validity of our athletes. I remember him racing in the 90's and he was a good triathlete.The fact that he is a supreme fundraiser and that CTS has worked with the WTC make it a given that he gains entry.

I can't speak for the top pros but I am sure they want him the race sooner than later. He is a pretty good athlete but he will not win it. He probably does not even think that but he will make the race interesting
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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [Scot] [ In reply to ]
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He will not race because he will not want to get chicked by Chrissie.

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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [Scot] [ In reply to ]
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Scot wrote:
These posts are really funny for over a year people are whining how can Lance get in Kona without qualifying. Please I am not pro or anti Lance but i mean really he has won the tour 7 times. His marathon time of 2:45 is a marginal time for an elite but ther just is so much hype surrounding this entrance to the race. he wants to do it let hiim in. His entrance to the sport will show really how different our sport is and how good the top athletes are. I mean if the top couple of girls beat him then it shows the validity of our athletes. I remember him racing in the 90's and he was a good triathlete.The fact that he is a supreme fundraiser and that CTS has worked with the WTC make it a given that he gains entry.

I can't speak for the top pros but I am sure they want him the race sooner than later. He is a pretty good athlete but he will not win it. He probably does not even think that but he will make the race interesting
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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [Joe M] [ In reply to ]
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rah rah rasputin
i swear i thought you wrote lance and boney M were training
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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [Scot] [ In reply to ]
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Scot wrote:
These posts are really funny for over a year people are whining how can Lance get in Kona without qualifying. Please I am not pro or anti Lance but i mean really he has won the tour 7 times. His marathon time of 2:45 is a marginal time for an elite but ther just is so much hype surrounding this entrance to the race. he wants to do it let hiim in. His entrance to the sport will show really how different our sport is and how good the top athletes are. I mean if the top couple of girls beat him then it shows the validity of our athletes. I remember him racing in the 90's and he was a good triathlete.The fact that he is a supreme fundraiser and that CTS has worked with the WTC make it a given that he gains entry.

I can't speak for the top pros but I am sure they want him the race sooner than later. He is a pretty good athlete but he will not win it. He probably does not even think that but he will make the race interesting


From the way the pro's were all worried about this new "qualifying" standards for the pro's getting into Kona, it seems like many of the pros didnt want him to race at all (or atleast have a "free" pass to Kona, while they have to qualify).

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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [bad929] [ In reply to ]
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I think if he races and they prove the point the pros and the sport will benefit. if he were to win which I think is finding lightning in a bottle it could be devasting to the sponsorship of the top guys but that is highly unlikely. It should show how good the top guys are now.
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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [Scot] [ In reply to ]
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He can have all these fast (and I call them "cute") workouts/race results, but until he actuallly steps to the line of a triathlon, all these workouts really are more hot air than anything. But if you listen to what he said last year, I got the feeling, he just is tired of everyone sniffing his jock expecting him to race and race for the win at Kona. Just seems like he wants to enjoy it and if he lays down a fast time (if he even races), great, if he gets chicked, great. It almost seemed like he was ok with just having fun with it, while everyone else (sponsors, fans) have this need/feel to put this pressure on Lance to "race" for the win. Of course it doesnt help when his own coaches come out and talk up Kona like he's racing to win it, but I guess I just get the feeling that at some point, he's going to tell every to F off with all this athletic pressure.

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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [bad929] [ In reply to ]
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At some point he has to put up or shut up. I coach a guy who was a Jr national team member in cycling with a swim backgroundbut he is even seeing age groupers match him on the bike. Lance 's strength on the bike will be negated to a point by having the unknown of the run behind it.
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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [Scot] [ In reply to ]
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I dont think he'll do it when he's "pro" competitive. I'm sure if he would do Kona 5 years from now just to do it to make an appearance, raise some Livestrong "awareness", etc., finish in 9:37, have a cool super fast bike, blow up for the run, but it wouldnt matter.

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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [bad929] [ In reply to ]
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Even now he has a lot of built in outs. he is 40, he really has not raced tris in 20 years. There really is not a lot to lose in this for him now. I am mean dave Scott was second at age 40 but please his whole athletic career was wrapped in Kona. Lance's legacy could be more effected by courts than it would by Kona. I just think there is so much hype over all sports and news becasue of media that is blown out of proportion. We will see what happens.
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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [bad929] [ In reply to ]
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bad929 wrote:
I dont think he'll do it when he's "pro" competitive. I'm sure if he would do Kona 5 years from now just to do it to make an appearance, raise some Livestrong "awareness", etc., finish in 9:37, have a cool super fast bike, blow up for the run, but it wouldnt matter.
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In the grand scheme of things the general media and those "average folks" who follow Lance wouldn't give a shit if he did 8:30 or 9:30 because they don't expect him to win Hawaii any more than they expect him to win any of the marathons he enters.I think it is the minority of folks (like here on ST) who sit around all day dreaming up all the "can he do this or that" scenarios.

Lance would have nothing to lose in any Ironman he entered but there are some second tier pros who might be worried if he showed up on race day at any of the mainland Nth American M-dots.

I've said it before,I believe he has the talent to win an Ironman race but not Ironman Hawaii.Maybe we will see it but probrably we won't

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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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Results from that race, if anybody cares:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/...thkey=CN-p3soL#gid=0

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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [Dark Mark] [ In reply to ]
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Hold on, that was an 8.5 mile race? I'm not knocking the times, but I just gotta ask...what kind of an evil course was it? Must have been brutal!
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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [MOP_Mike] [ In reply to ]
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Obviously Lance is still a top cyclist, and from this swim result he can still knock out a good swim. I do suspect though that there would be some evening out of his bike speed compared to the top cycling triathletes if he was training like a triathlete and not like a cyclist. Whilst I am sure it is probably correct that the top cycling triathletes would finish last in the Tour it doesn't mean that some of them didn't have the ability to be top cyclists just that obviously years spent training to be a triathlete is not ideal preperation to be a stage racing cyclist. I am sure Lance wouldn't have put in the same performances at the tour if he was knocking out 50+miles a week of running.

A number of leading cyclists have of course hit the Ironman start line - Udo Bolts, Jalabert etc and provide some idea of what cyclists can do over an IM bike course though neither have Lances tri heritage so likely started the bike in worse shape than you would expect Lance to.
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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [Z fan] [ In reply to ]
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he 'tweeted' that it felt like 20miles. :)
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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [Ultra-tri-guy] [ In reply to ]
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Ultra-tri-guy wrote:
bad929 wrote:
I dont think he'll do it when he's "pro" competitive. I'm sure if he would do Kona 5 years from now just to do it to make an appearance, raise some Livestrong "awareness", etc., finish in 9:37, have a cool super fast bike, blow up for the run, but it wouldnt matter.

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In the grand scheme of things the general media and those "average folks" who follow Lance wouldn't give a shit if he did 8:30 or 9:30 because they don't expect him to win Hawaii any more than they expect him to win any of the marathons he enters.I think it is the minority of folks (like here on ST) who sit around all day dreaming up all the "can he do this or that" scenarios.

Lance would have nothing to lose in any Ironman he entered but there are some second tier pros who might be worried if he showed up on race day at any of the mainland Nth American M-dots.

I've said it before,I believe he has the talent to win an Ironman race but not Ironman Hawaii.Maybe we will see it but probrably we won't

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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [doubleplay] [ In reply to ]
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Lance would do better to head to a course like Roth where the swim is guaranteed to be flat and the bike course is the fastest for a good cyclists. The crowds are the biggest and there are plenty of rolling hills.
Anyway i agree with some above that he is best to target one race and it doesn't need to be Kona. Kona is a nice place and Hawaii is where ironman started, but I reckon go where the leaders/direction of the sport go, Roth. World record course and a chance to lay down a once in a lifetme fatest time. Lance would cruise through a 4hr 10min ride on that course I reckon and they even drive/bike on the same side of the road as he is used to. 'Rip it up' I say and forget the Kona hype altogether.

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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [triathlonshots] [ In reply to ]
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Lance would do better to head to a course like Roth where the swim is guaranteed to be flat

As opposed to all the swims with steep grades? ;)

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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [asad137] [ In reply to ]
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Well, so far, Green Barf was right.

Shall we place bets on whether Lance will race Kona in 2012?
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This thread needs a video of me shaking Lance's hand. Just to prove what a super-mega-fan I am.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq_iPOUQAQ4
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Re: 2.4 mi. swim - Lance Armstrong [KingJulian] [ In reply to ]
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look ma, no hands !


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