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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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They seem to be wasting Terpstra. He's one of the best at making a late attack stick, and yet most of the time when he makes it to the key move they tell him to sit on.

I believe that it was QS that first stopped contributing to the group of ~15 when they had numbers (3), which prompted the Keuleleire attacks/splits. It's too big a group to work well together, but I can't help but wonder what would have happened if they contributed and then let Terpstra do his late attack at 15km while Stybar/Lampaert sit on.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [timbasile] [ In reply to ]
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They seem to be wasting Terpstra. He's one of the best at making a late attack stick, and yet most of the time when he makes it to the key move they tell him to sit on.

I believe that it was QS that first stopped contributing to the group of ~15 when they had numbers (3), which prompted the Keuleleire attacks/splits. It's too big a group to work well together, but I can't help but wonder what would have happened if they contributed and then let Terpstra do his late attack at 15km while Stybar/Lampaert sit on.

It's tough when you have former monument winners and world champs like Terpstra and Gilbert playing basically super doms and yet they have more savvy and sometimes better legs on the day than the new young guns the team rides for. Terpstra wasn't going to get that win in that group but he could still outlast people at Roubaix if the stars line up.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [McNulty] [ In reply to ]
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Gilbert demonstrated some incredible riding today at De Panne, if he keeps this form up he will be a serious threat at Flanders.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [Ron_Burgundy] [ In reply to ]
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no kidding. almost too good. he's been 'peaking' for a month.

I love the Phil the Thrill style. great racing sense and no fear of failing. I hope the Ronde works out.

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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [dsmallwood] [ In reply to ]
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He looks like he's having a blast, no pressure. Saw that at Dwars when he and Lampaert went one two.
So much fun to watch. Always mixing it up.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [McNulty] [ In reply to ]
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The Patersberg would suit him. I recall quipping five years ago (yes, that's how long since he last did RvV) that the Oude Kwaremont/Patersberg combo would suit him in terms of his attacking dispositions. That never fully panned out, but perhaps may pan out this year?

Unlike Terpstra, Gilbert could sprint as well
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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echappist wrote:
The Patersberg would suit him. I recall quipping five years ago (yes, that's how long since he last did RvV) that the Oude Kwaremont/Patersberg combo would suit him in terms of his attacking dispositions. That never fully panned out, but perhaps may pan out this year?

Unlike Terpstra, Gilbert could sprint as well

He's looking like he could be in the final group Sunday but I still see him playing the shit starter (antagonist) for the other hitters. Would love to be wrong. And at 35 or whatever, how does he ride and tt again tomorrow and be ready to rock on Sunday. Maybe the plan was to lock it up today and just manage tomorrow. They have this all dialed and he's going great so what do I know.

I've been trying to find an attack from Phil Gil from about 3 years ago for the win that I thought was brilliant. Uphill, from about 2 k out,....forget the race but it was maybe LBL? Just smart. Any ideas?

Glad to see Kristoff get some today. Seems like a stand up, candid guy.

Watching these races through towns, neighborhoods, riding on the sidewalks, crowds on a Tuesday, Wednesday. Kristoff finishes today and there are a bunch of amateur riders just hanging around with the press. Thought they were other pros until I saw the leg warmers and guts. Pretty cool.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [McNulty] [ In reply to ]
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I've been trying to find an attack from Phil Gil from about 3 years ago for the win that I thought was brilliant. Uphill, from about 2 k out,....forget the race but it was maybe LBL? Just smart. Any ideas?


Uphill from about 2K out describes about 75% of Gilbert wins, but maybe 2014 Amstel Gold?


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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
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I've been trying to find an attack from Phil Gil from about 3 years ago for the win that I thought was brilliant. Uphill, from about 2 k out,....forget the race but it was maybe LBL? Just smart. Any ideas?


Uphill from about 2K out describes about 75% of Gilbert wins, but maybe 2014 Amstel Gold?


well, that and also the previous iteration at 2012 Worlds. Both launched about 300 m onto the Cauberg. The attack wasn't smart, just brute force.

For a smart win, one of his breakaway wins at the 2015 Giro. Dropped on the climb, chased back and sling shot off the front group.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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the Loop in 2006 and 2008. they were awesome. attack and attack again. attack, bridge, attack, drop, win.


oh, and his recent wins in the Giro. 2015 or 2016. bridge and blow thru, solo to win.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
McNulty wrote:


I've been trying to find an attack from Phil Gil from about 3 years ago for the win that I thought was brilliant. Uphill, from about 2 k out,....forget the race but it was maybe LBL? Just smart. Any ideas?


Uphill from about 2K out describes about 75% of Gilbert wins, but maybe 2014 Amstel Gold?

That's it. Thanks.
The minutes prior to the attack was super interesting. I think someone went or few went and they brought him/them back and then PG countered.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [McNulty] [ In reply to ]
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2012 Worlds, even better.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R79rkoXlmo0
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [McNulty] [ In reply to ]
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Shit. I thought it was hilarious.
https://www.theguardian.com/...ding-bike-lanes-race
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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man, I am really digging this Phil-Gil stuff. I love to see him back. and Kristoff hammered for a 3rd Overall. it would be great to see him back in form. his 15 spring season was great.

I am really looking forward to Sunday. the forecast is lovely spring weather. could be a shootout.


related question - what kind of beer are they drinking course side? I only know Chimay and Corsendonk.


http://www.cyclingnews.com/...17/stage-3b/results/
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [dsmallwood] [ In reply to ]
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There's Kwaremont bier, but it's. average.

Belgian equivalent of Budweiser would be Jupiler.

But why settle for junk when you can drink Duvel blonde ale? 8% abv, slight hint of hop, smooth, and will get you drunk in no time.

Ommegang, Its American cousin (and wholly owned subsidiary of Duvel), is equally acceptable.

Chimay is an excellent choice as well, but a bit heavy for mid mornings
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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Great ride by QS and Kittel. Nutty circuit.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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echappist wrote:
There's Kwaremont bier, but it's. average.

Belgian equivalent of Budweiser would be Jupiler.

But why settle for junk when you can drink Duvel blonde ale? 8% abv, slight hint of hop, smooth, and will get you drunk in no time.

Ommegang, Its American cousin (and wholly owned subsidiary of Duvel), is equally acceptable.

Chimay is an excellent choice as well, but a bit heavy for mid mornings


excellent. thank you. I plan to have a beer while watching with chums. Duvel it is.

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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [dsmallwood] [ In reply to ]
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dsmallwood wrote:
echappist wrote:
There's Kwaremont bier, but it's. average.

Belgian equivalent of Budweiser would be Jupiler.

But why settle for junk when you can drink Duvel blonde ale? 8% abv, slight hint of hop, smooth, and will get you drunk in no time.

Ommegang, Its American cousin (and wholly owned subsidiary of Duvel), is equally acceptable.

Chimay is an excellent choice as well, but a bit heavy for mid mornings



excellent. thank you. I plan to have a beer while watching with chums. Duvel it is.

"Duvel is the one beer to have when you're having more than one."

Out yourselves. Who remembers this beer commercial?
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [McNulty] [ In reply to ]
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OK, time to put down your crap beers and get serious.

Flanders:

1. GvA
2. Sagan
3. Kristoff (get up the Paterberg!)

Wildcards

1. Durbridge
2. Colbrelli
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
OK, time to put down your crap beers and get serious.

Flanders:
1. GvA
2. Sagan
3. Kristoff (get up the Paterberg!)

Wildcards
1. Durbridge
2. Colbrelli



I think this is tough. the picks are GVA/Sagan or Sagan/GVA, all else are wildcards. and those cards are:

Phil Gil - is he for real?
Kristoff - one flash in Depanne ... is he for real?
Degenkolb and Stuyven and the entire Orica team
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [dsmallwood] [ In reply to ]
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I'm going dark horse-ish:
Phil Gil nips GvA, then Sagan.
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [McNulty] [ In reply to ]
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Phil Gil seems to be the one member of QS who has both the legs and the freedom to ignore the DS in his ear telling him to stop working (I'm assuming).
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [timbasile] [ In reply to ]
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [McNulty] [ In reply to ]
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GvA/Gilbert or vice versa; Sagan to be caught out by being out of position one too few many times and settles for third.

Durbridge and Naesen wild cards

Will make up my mind about 1st and 2nd some time soon
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Re: *Spoilers* 2017 Spring Classics thread *Spoilers* [echappist] [ In reply to ]
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echappist wrote:
GvA/Gilbert or vice versa; Sagan to be caught out by being out of position one too few many times and settles for third.

Durbridge and Naesen wild cards

Will make up my mind about 1st and 2nd some time soon

Alright, let's get serious ;) I'm drinking a Unibroue La Fin Du Monde. Not really Belgian but a nice belgian style triple. Tastes like dessert to me.

I have to put my boy off the top step so as not to jinx him right? I did fairly well in the pool with that tactic last year. And he also ended up having a kickass season.

Here goes:

GvA - I respect him but for some reason can't make myself to like him.
Peto - hometown hero. Even though he can be quite a clown sometimes
Sep - seems like he's only got a few good races/season. This will be it once again.

WC's:
Naesen
Pippo Pozzato - why the hell not
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