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YaHey

Apr 26, 12 11:32

Post #26 of 126 (844 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [Gurudriver10] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Only the jews have lived on the land called Israel. odd that even in the old testament the jews were one of many living on that land, and they were pretty much a bunch of gypsies wondering the desert.


undrh20

Apr 26, 12 11:32

Post #27 of 126 (844 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [Gurudriver10] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Gurudriver10 wrote:
AND, it was all predicted thousands of years prior to '48, which is proof God fights for them. More proof? None of the nations around them can push them into the ocean, despite attempts in '67, '70, and '73. But Yahey doesn't care what God says or predicts.

Wait a minute . . . . . you have proof God fights for Israel?

What role do you believe a formidable, disciplined military force plays in keeping Israel from being pushed into the sea?

Israel prevailing in 1967 and 1973 can be attributed to military prowess above all IMO.

Not sure what you are referring to in 1970.


Gurudriver10

Apr 26, 12 11:37

Post #28 of 126 (841 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [Francois] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Francois wrote:
So on top of being a total idiot you also have zero sense of humor. Man! Tough life. Glad you have god helping you out.

I've visited Israel and the MidEast numerous times. It's not a laughing matter! They are playing for keeps over there and Yahey is flippantly calling for genocide. I'm very surprised he has been allowed to do this on LR repeatedly.


Gurudriver10

Apr 26, 12 11:46

Post #29 of 126 (839 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [undrh20] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

undrh20 wrote:
Gurudriver10 wrote:
AND, it was all predicted thousands of years prior to '48, which is proof God fights for them. More proof? None of the nations around them can push them into the ocean, despite attempts in '67, '70, and '73. But Yahey doesn't care what God says or predicts.


Wait a minute . . . . . you have proof God fights for Israel?

What role do you believe a formidable, disciplined military force plays in keeping Israel from being pushed into the sea?

Israel prevailing in 1967 and 1973 can be attributed to military prowess above all IMO.

Not sure what you are referring to in 1970.

Wrong. It's all predicted in the OT and you can't ignore it! The Soviets get involved in '70 and are repulsed. Look up "Rimon 20". Soviets have more numbers and more talent than Israel but can't prevail, losing 5 jets against no losses for Israel.


Gurudriver10

Apr 26, 12 11:48

Post #30 of 126 (839 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [YaHey] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

YaHey wrote:
Only the jews have lived on the land called Israel. odd that even in the old testament the jews were one of many living on that land, and they were pretty much a bunch of gypsies wondering the desert.

Your knowledge of history is pretty laughable. As someone else pointed out, an anti-Semite is just ideologically immune to truth. When do you start denying the Holocaust?


undrh20

Apr 26, 12 12:07

Post #31 of 126 (829 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [Gurudriver10] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Gurudriver10 wrote:
It's all predicted in the OT and you can't ignore it! The Soviets get involved in '70 and are repulsed. Look up "Rimon 20". Soviets have more numbers and more talent than Israel but can't prevail, losing 5 jets against no losses for Israel.

The Soviet airmen involved were no match for the best Israeli pilots who were hand picked for that particular mission.

Look, if you want to believe that God is responsible for Israel's military victories, that's fine with me (and most Israelis), but it can't hurt for them to maintain their top-notch military preparedness.


Gurudriver10

Apr 26, 12 12:18

Post #32 of 126 (823 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [undrh20] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

undrh20 wrote:
Gurudriver10 wrote:
It's all predicted in the OT and you can't ignore it! The Soviets get involved in '70 and are repulsed. Look up "Rimon 20". Soviets have more numbers and more talent than Israel but can't prevail, losing 5 jets against no losses for Israel.


The Soviet airmen involved were no match for the best Israeli pilots who were hand picked for that particular mission.

Look, if you want to believe that God is responsible for Israel's military victories, that's fine with me (and most Israelis), but it can't hurt for them to maintain their top-notch military preparedness.

Agreed, but you can't ignore the prophecies from thousands of years prior.


UrsusAdiposimus

Apr 26, 12 12:32

Post #33 of 126 (809 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [Gurudriver10] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

I am afraid I have to agree that superior military capabilities tends to play a greater role than divine intervention in armed conflict. This conversation reminds me of the stories about the CIA arming the mujihadeen to fight the Soviets in the 1980's. The mujihadeen apparently believed it was God guiding those Stinger missiles up the tailpipes of the Soviet air force and not, say, a heat-seeking guidance system.


undrh20

Apr 26, 12 12:43

Post #34 of 126 (802 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [Gurudriver10] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Gurudriver10 wrote:
undrh20 wrote:
The Soviet airmen involved were no match for the best Israeli pilots who were hand picked for that particular mission. Look, if you want to believe that God is responsible for Israel's military victories, that's fine with me (and most Israelis), but it can't hurt for them to maintain their top-notch military preparedness.
Agreed, but you can't ignore the prophecies from thousands of years prior.

Actually, I can ignore the prophecies as they directly relate to the history of modern day Israel. That's my choice.

And you can attribute all that has occurred directly to those same Biblical predictions, if you so desire. That's your choice.


Gurudriver10

Apr 26, 12 12:46

Post #35 of 126 (801 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [UrsusAdiposimus] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

UrsusAdiposimus wrote:
I am afraid I have to agree that superior military capabilities tends to play a greater role than divine intervention in armed conflict. This conversation reminds me of the stories about the CIA arming the mujihadeen to fight the Soviets in the 1980's. The mujihadeen apparently believed it was God guiding those Stinger missiles up the tailpipes of the Soviet air force and not, say, a heat-seeking guidance system.

Yes, they are well-trained and very alert. However, you can't ignore the prophecies, in the 100s, and you can't ignore their size vs those around them. You can't ignore that they are THE only group of folks who have been dispersed but come back after almost 2000 years to take their country over again, despite the efforts of the 3rd Reich, their neighbors, and the Communists. The last tidbit was predicted in the OT and you can't ignore it:

http://www.therefinersfire.org/recent_prophecy.htm

http://www.100prophecies.org/page5.htm

Happy Birthday Israel!!


Gurudriver10

Apr 26, 12 12:48

Post #36 of 126 (801 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [YaHey] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

YaHey wrote:
The 13 most impacted and important nations voted against the creation of Israel.

And those 13 are also the biggest civil rights violators in the UN. Guess you are in good company, Yahey.


Gurudriver10

Apr 26, 12 12:51

Post #37 of 126 (799 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [undrh20] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

undrh20 wrote:
Gurudriver10 wrote:
undrh20 wrote:
The Soviet airmen involved were no match for the best Israeli pilots who were hand picked for that particular mission. Look, if you want to believe that God is responsible for Israel's military victories, that's fine with me (and most Israelis), but it can't hurt for them to maintain their top-notch military preparedness.
Agreed, but you can't ignore the prophecies from thousands of years prior.


Actually, I can ignore the prophecies as they directly relate to the history of modern day Israel. That's my choice.

And you can attribute all that has occurred directly to those same Biblical predictions, if you so desire. That's your choice.

Why do you hate science?


........

Apr 26, 12 12:59

Post #38 of 126 (792 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [Gurudriver10] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Gurudriver10 wrote:
undrh20 wrote:
Gurudriver10 wrote:
undrh20 wrote:
The Soviet airmen involved were no match for the best Israeli pilots who were hand picked for that particular mission. Look, if you want to believe that God is responsible for Israel's military victories, that's fine with me (and most Israelis), but it can't hurt for them to maintain their top-notch military preparedness.
Agreed, but you can't ignore the prophecies from thousands of years prior.


Actually, I can ignore the prophecies as they directly relate to the history of modern day Israel. That's my choice.

And you can attribute all that has occurred directly to those same Biblical predictions, if you so desire. That's your choice.


Why do you hate science?

Oh the incredible irony...


undrh20

Apr 26, 12 13:01

Post #39 of 126 (792 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [Gurudriver10] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Gurudriver10 wrote:
Why do you hate science?

You lost me.

No hate involved, but . . . . Prophecies = Science?


........

Apr 26, 12 13:04

Post #40 of 126 (789 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [undrh20] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Wait that you get the whole discussion about all the Science being in the Bible, and the Bible being scientifically proven...


Gurudriver10

Apr 26, 12 13:06

Post #41 of 126 (787 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [undrh20] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

undrh20 wrote:
Gurudriver10 wrote:
Why do you hate science?


You lost me.

No hate involved, but . . . . Prophecies = Science?

History and archaeology are sciences and you can't ignore these fulfilled prophecies from ancient times. The Dead Sea Scrolls prove it. You can bury your head in the sand but you will be like the Holocaust deniers.


undrh20

Apr 26, 12 13:19

Post #42 of 126 (781 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [Gurudriver10] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Gurudriver10 wrote:
History and archaeology are sciences and you can't ignore these fulfilled prophecies from ancient times. The Dead Sea Scrolls prove it. You can bury your head in the sand but you will be like the Holocaust deniers.

OK . . . . Happy Birthday to Israel!


NCtri

Apr 26, 12 13:23

Post #43 of 126 (777 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [Gurudriver10] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Gurudriver10 wrote:
undrh20 wrote:
Gurudriver10 wrote:
Why do you hate science?


You lost me.

No hate involved, but . . . . Prophecies = Science?


History and archaeology are sciences and you can't ignore these fulfilled prophecies from ancient times. The Dead Sea Scrolls prove it. You can bury your head in the sand but you will be like the Holocaust deniers.

Oh my. This is sad. Next you'll be talking about Nostradamus.

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YaHey

Apr 26, 12 13:32

Post #44 of 126 (767 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [Gurudriver10] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

The Holocaust? You mean WWII where about 100 million died, and of those 9 million were Jews?


j p o

Apr 26, 12 13:36

Post #45 of 126 (764 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [NCtri] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

NCtri wrote:
Gurudriver10 wrote:
undrh20 wrote:
Gurudriver10 wrote:
Why do you hate science?


You lost me.

No hate involved, but . . . . Prophecies = Science?


History and archaeology are sciences and you can't ignore these fulfilled prophecies from ancient times. The Dead Sea Scrolls prove it. You can bury your head in the sand but you will be like the Holocaust deniers.


Oh my. This is sad. Next you'll be talking about Nostradamus.

Fuck me, I hadn't opened this thread and was just going to skip it. But it has some of the best unintentional humor that has been in the LR for quite some time.

If I didn't know these guys were serious I would be certain they were just yanking chains.


haole

Apr 26, 12 14:08

Post #46 of 126 (749 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [haole] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Happy Birthday to Palestine too.

Let's throw some rocks to celebrate....

but jokes aside boys..are we gonna throw these f'in rocks or not?


........

Apr 26, 12 14:10

Post #47 of 126 (745 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [j p o] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVSRm80WzZk


Ski racerz

Apr 26, 12 22:35

Post #48 of 126 (711 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [FJB] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

FJB wrote:
Happy Birthday to Palestine too.


Sorry to rain on your celebration, but Palestine is not a country, at least not for now (unless you learn geography from Hamas).


FJB

Apr 26, 12 22:40

Post #49 of 126 (710 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [Ski racerz] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Don't worry, I know the region pretty well to be honest.

I like how everyone bends over backwards to avoid saying anything remotely positive about Palestine. And some people think there might be peace there some day...


Ski racerz

Apr 26, 12 22:48

Post #50 of 126 (709 views)
Re: Happy 64th to Israel! [FJB] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Some of us are always looking for something positive to come out of the area! It's just amazing that the "peace loving" majority of the Arabs will not air thier opinions for fear of being killed by their leaders.

Here, this article has something nice to say:

http://www.ynetnews.com/...40,L-4220976,00.html


Peace will happen when there is a real partner for the Israelis to negotiate with...in the mid 90's the Israeli's were ecstatic and the air was abuzz with the prospect of peace. They were even forecasting an economic boom in Israel as a "peace dividend".Hateful extremists ruined the last real chance at peace and it cost the Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin his life.

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