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Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar
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Three people are dead in a shooting spree in downtown Fresno on Tuesday, and the suspect was wanted in connection to the Motel 6 killing last week, the Fresno Police Department said.
Kori Ali Muhammad, 39, shouted "Allahu Akbar" as police tackled him to the ground after the shootings which were spread over four locations, Police Chief Jerry Dyer said.
The victims appeared to be random, Dyer said.
Like any other item, they can be used for good or bad.
Condolences to the victims.

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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [CruseVegas] [ In reply to ]
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Horrible! Just like the other coward, this guy is a POS multiplied.


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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [CruseVegas] [ In reply to ]
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Despite our recent differences in opinion I have to pay credit where credit is due for highlighting the 'good' and the 'bad'.

Kudos.
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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [mv2005] [ In reply to ]
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mv2005 wrote:
Despite our recent differences in opinion I have to pay credit where credit is due for highlighting the 'good' and the 'bad'.

Kudos.

Cheers. :)

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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [CruseVegas] [ In reply to ]
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CruseVegas wrote:
mv2005 wrote:
Despite our recent differences in opinion I have to pay credit where credit is due for highlighting the 'good' and the 'bad'.

Kudos.

Cheers. :)

See we can get along!

I didn't (and won't) check your other reply because I don't trust my ability to not get baited into further debate. HaHa Though the suspense on what variant of 'idiot' I may have been called is killing me
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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [mv2005] [ In reply to ]
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mv2005 wrote:
CruseVegas wrote:
mv2005 wrote:
Despite our recent differences in opinion I have to pay credit where credit is due for highlighting the 'good' and the 'bad'.

Kudos.


Cheers. :)


See we can get along!

I didn't (and won't) check your other reply because I don't trust my ability to not get baited into further debate. HaHa Though the suspense on what variant of 'idiot' I may have been called is killing me

I'm really very easy to get along with, I'm sweet as peaches. :)

I could be wrong but I don't think I ever called you an idiot. Ignorant, which isn't or wasn't meant to be derogatory, plenty of stuff I'm ignorant about.

I was looking for a Rodney King pic, why can't we all get along



But thought this too priceless not to post.

One of my GF's favorite quotes, "they can suck it". She's a tough gal.

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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [CruseVegas] [ In reply to ]
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I guess the police were on him like instantly due to Fresno's shot spotter technology. http://www.shotspotter.com/

Might have saved a few lives.

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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [last tri in 83] [ In reply to ]
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last tri in 83 wrote:
I guess the police were on him like instantly due to Fresno's shot spotter technology. http://www.shotspotter.com/

Might have saved a few lives.

I've heard of it and understand the concept but am ignorant of any actual details as to how it works, what captures the sound, how that's transmitted so quickly and dispatched.

I bet you're right on the lives saved. Got to get the good guys with guns there asap. Especially in a citizenry that is unarmed.

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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [CruseVegas] [ In reply to ]
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Sound location system. Sensors placed throughout city--in this case Fresno (Raisin Capitol of the World) allow very quick triangulation thru computer analysis. We use something similar to figure out where the assholes are that fire small arms onto our bigger bases over in the sand box. For detecting incoming indirect fire (rocket and mortar) we use other systems. So far that's not a issue in Fresno--yet.

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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [Steve Hawley] [ In reply to ]
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Steve Hawley wrote:
Sound location system. Sensors placed throughout city--in this case Fresno (Raisin Capitol of the World) allow very quick triangulation thru computer analysis. We use something similar to figure out where the assholes are that fire small arms onto our bigger bases over in the sand box. For detecting incoming indirect fire (rocket and mortar) we use other systems. So far that's not a issue in Fresno--yet.

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Are they wired or wireless? Any idea what sort of area 1 sensor covers, how many in a square mile?

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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [CruseVegas] [ In reply to ]
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CruseVegas wrote:
Steve Hawley wrote:
Sound location system. Sensors placed throughout city--in this case Fresno (Raisin Capitol of the World) allow very quick triangulation thru computer analysis. We use something similar to figure out where the assholes are that fire small arms onto our bigger bases over in the sand box. For detecting incoming indirect fire (rocket and mortar) we use other systems. So far that's not a issue in Fresno--yet.

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Are they wired or wireless? Any idea what sort of area 1 sensor covers, how many in a square mile?

Most likely wireless and piggy backed onto existing infrastructure that already uses wireless infrastructure, such as those used in smart city solutions. Think parking meters, bike sharing locations, utility poles, etc.
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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [CruseVegas] [ In reply to ]
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i do not know the answer to your questions as they pertain to the raisin capitol's system--while the theory is similar there are different problem sets and solutions for military applications and i really cant go into specifics on the military side of things.

However open source wise just think of the different problem set. On one hand you have what basically amounts to a pretty secure perimeter of a large area and you're worried about assholes firing high powered scoped rifles into your perimeter. On the other hand you have elected officials and their law enforcement subordinates who're basically trying to figure out where any shot is fired anywhere (quickly) within a huge urbanized area.

so similar technologies--different problem sets and solutions

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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [CruseVegas] [ In reply to ]
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Correction



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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [last tri in 83] [ In reply to ]
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come on now. don't be disingenuous. Selma (Calif) is a part of Fresno. Countless times iv'e seen the sign coming into Fresno advertising it as the Raisin Capitol. Sort of like Bakerfield's "Sun, Fun, Stay Play." Signs

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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [CruseVegas] [ In reply to ]
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Does anyone else think it sounds kind of like "Aloha Snackbar"?

Disclaimer: I often promise photos fully intending to provide them and then get distracted. Sorry in advance :)
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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [Uncle Arqyle] [ In reply to ]
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Uncle Arqyle wrote:
Most likely wireless and piggy backed onto existing infrastructure that already uses wireless infrastructure, such as those used in smart city solutions. Think parking meters, bike sharing locations, utility poles, etc.
Street lights, very possibly. Modern street light modules have a Zigbee mesh network to communicate, and are often optioned with camera and mic. Sound level variation between light modules can be used to triangulate to a source point.
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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [last tri in 83] [ In reply to ]
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Raisin Capital of the World! Great job! I knew you could do it, Fresno. Raisin Capital of the World, oh boy! (Read that as if coming from Buddy the Elf)




last tri in 83 wrote:
Correction

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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [MidwestRoadie] [ In reply to ]
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Well although born there, i did leave Calif in '77. So perhaps the 'truth' has changed. But there did used to be a giant sign as you came into Fresno proclaiming it the Raisin Capitol. And since LT83s subversive post i've had to exercise some google fu and i've found that although this upstart town does challenge the claim with some cheap tawdry sign--crossword puzzle hints and Fresno's own webpage will still tell u it's the Raisin Capitol. So if you want to ascribe to a tawdry cheap johnny come lately sign--that's on you. I'm still with Fresno as the Raisin Capitol, and Bakersfield for Sun, Fun, Stay, Play--cause that's what i saw multitudinous times driving thru both

http://www.movoto.com/...ca/moving-to-fresno/

i had to look up the Buddy the Elf reference--very clever. :-)

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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [Steve Hawley] [ In reply to ]
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Everyone knows Selma it's home to Sunmaid raisins and is the raisin capital. Fresno co-opted it with the California Raisin Bowl and the Dancing Raisins.

Did you know Fresno Co. Produces nearly 100% of the US supply?

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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [cabrero] [ In reply to ]
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cabrero wrote:
Uncle Arqyle wrote:
Most likely wireless and piggy backed onto existing infrastructure that already uses wireless infrastructure, such as those used in smart city solutions. Think parking meters, bike sharing locations, utility poles, etc.

Street lights, very possibly. Modern street light modules have a Zigbee mesh network to communicate, and are often optioned with camera and mic. Sound level variation between light modules can be used to triangulate to a source point.

This is interesting stuff. I assume there is some local processing going on otherwise they would be sending a whole lot of data to the cloud and most of the smart city stuff is 3G.
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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [Uncle Arqyle] [ In reply to ]
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Uncle Arqyle wrote:
cabrero wrote:
Uncle Arqyle wrote:
Most likely wireless and piggy backed onto existing infrastructure that already uses wireless infrastructure, such as those used in smart city solutions. Think parking meters, bike sharing locations, utility poles, etc.

Street lights, very possibly. Modern street light modules have a Zigbee mesh network to communicate, and are often optioned with camera and mic. Sound level variation between light modules can be used to triangulate to a source point.


This is interesting stuff. I assume there is some local processing going on otherwise they would be sending a whole lot of data to the cloud and most of the smart city stuff is 3G.
I don't think it is that much data. Zigbee is low data rate, like 256 Kb/s. That's why you see surveillance video with noticeably low frame rates. There is no processing going on at the street light level as far as I know; whether that occurs at a private head-end or in the cloud, well I don't know that either. ZIgbee seems to be taking over; it's private, and it's a mesh network, so it's easy to add additional nodes without any additional network infrastructure.
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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [last tri in 83] [ In reply to ]
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last tri in 83 wrote:
I guess the police were on him like instantly due to Fresno's shot spotter technology. http://www.shotspotter.com/

Might have saved a few lives.

The theory for the technology is actually quite old. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...illery_sound_ranging
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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [cabrero] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks to everyone for the info and input on the shot spotter technology. Interesting stuff.

More info on the POS. He killed a security guard a week earlier and had a warrant out for his arrest. Hard to say for sure but it sounds more racially motivated than a muslim extremist killing non believers. More credit given to the shot spotter system for more lives being spared.

http://www.foxnews.com/...pect-in-custody.html

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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [last tri in 83] [ In reply to ]
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No

Steve
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Re: Bad Gun Story of the week #2 Allahu Akbar [CruseVegas] [ In reply to ]
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CruseVegas wrote:
Thanks to everyone for the info and input on the shot spotter technology. Interesting stuff.

More info on the POS. He killed a security guard a week earlier and had a warrant out for his arrest. Hard to say for sure but it sounds more racially motivated than a muslim extremist killing non believers. More credit given to the shot spotter system for more lives being spared.

http://www.foxnews.com/...pect-in-custody.html

I didn't read the link but I've read elsewhere that the guy thinks he's an African American soldier in a war against whites. I believe it was his dad who brought that up in a news interview. Maybe there's an Islamic angle there, but I'd put my money on the race factor being the determinative one here. The dad said something like, "I hope the cops take his story seriously and finally start paying attention to what my son's a part of."


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