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A novel doping excuse that...worked?
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A masking agent showed up in a test, athlete explained its appearance away by saying that he passionately kissed his girlfriend thus becoming contaminated with her medicine to fight her sinus infection. Athlete keeps gold medal and sponsorships.

That's a helluva kiss.
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This is getting ridiculous.

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Re: A novel doping excuse that...worked? [jkhayc] [ In reply to ]
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Not new, a certain pole vaulter used this to beat a ban for cocaine at Rio... I believe in his case it was an... escort....
This is the step child of Ben Johnson's spiked waterbottle claim (which may have actually been substantiated if you believe the accounts in one of the documentaries about him...) in 88...
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Re: A novel doping excuse that...worked? [jkhayc] [ In reply to ]
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Good grief. Like you are in the mood for passionate kissing when you have a sinus infection.

They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

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Re: A novel doping excuse that...worked? [len] [ In reply to ]
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len wrote:
Good grief. Like you are in the mood for passionate kissing when you have a sinus infection.

Building on that, what athlete is going to passionately kiss a sick partner right before a competition? If I have a race coming up and my sig other is sick, I maintain a healthy distance at all times.
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If I have a race coming up and my sig other is sick, I maintain a healthy distance at all times.

Around our house we refer to it as the "race bubble" and it starts about 2 weeks out from key races.
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Re: A novel doping excuse that...worked? [jkhayc] [ In reply to ]
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So let me get this straight.... He claims that before a competition, his girlfriend had a sinus injection, for which she went to a "chemist" who gave her an out-of-production antibiotic. She cracked open the capsule and emptied the medicine onto her tongue and he immediately and passionately kissed her. And this worked? JFC. Kick this guy out of sports and fire the arbitrators from their jobs. Seriously. They do not belong in their professions.

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Re: A novel doping excuse that...worked? [darkwave] [ In reply to ]
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Building on that, what athlete is going to passionately kiss a sick partner right before a competition? If I have a race coming up and my sig other is sick, I maintain a healthy distance at all times. //

Do you guys ever read these posted articles before you all come up with your own interpretations?? Of course you dont have to believe any of it, but it is explained as to why he kissed her sick, he didn't know. She kept if from him. And she didn't swallow the pills because it was hard for her, so she opened them up and poured contents into her mouth. And it was a 14 day course which she didn't finish, so she had a pill left to be tested to prove what was in it. That is the cliff not version, but just about every complaint here was addressed, and apparently to the satisfaction of the presiding judges.

I can think of times when I pretended to be healthier than I was for some woman, and I know of a lot of people that cannot swallow pills. It is not that far fetched unless you believe they had this planned all along and thus had a special pill spiked to look exactly like what was in his system. All of this is possible, but I would tend to go with the simplest explanation in this case, they dont seem bright enough to have cooked up this escape scheme in advance to me. But that is just me( and of course the folks that had all the evidence and actually read and confirmed it all). You guys can continue to just make up stuff that wasn't presented or just believe everyone is lying all the time when it comes to weird stuff..

Now vanishing twin or tainted beef, those are some real tall tales...(-;
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Re: A novel doping excuse that...worked? [Hoffmeister] [ In reply to ]
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Haha, yes, I knew I'd heard this defence somewhere before! Interesting that it worked for Gasquet too...

I can just see Kevin Moats planning his new defence now.
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Re: A novel doping excuse that...worked? [len] [ In reply to ]
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len wrote:
Good grief. Like you are in the mood for passionate kissing when you have a sinus infection.

If she’s hot enough...
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Re: A novel doping excuse that...worked? [monty] [ In reply to ]
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yes. i read it. interesting that you can tell how bright or not bright they are based on this article. i posted it for a few reasons:

1) a novel excuse (pointed out a few times that it's been done before, but that doesn't mean it's not novel)
2) a somewhat surprising non-ban (yes you believe the simplest explanation is the best and that in this case it's likely - in your opinion - that the explanation is valid, but in current climate stuff like this will generally not be received particularly well because doubt is pervasive)
3) post count
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Re: A novel doping excuse that...worked? [monty] [ In reply to ]
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I read the article. It said she kept her illness secret from him for fear it might dampen his desire for her. How hard would it have been for her to say honey I'm sick right now and I don't want to make you sick right before the Olympics. And then they could have skipped the kiss and had sex.

They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

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jkhayc wrote:
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A masking agent showed up in a test, athlete explained its appearance away by saying that he passionately kissed his girlfriend thus becoming contaminated with her medicine to fight her sinus infection. Athlete keeps gold medal and sponsorships.

That's a helluva kiss.

Won't be able to use the same excuse twice and will need to move to the next base: take a tip from this guy -

"Spanish 20km walker Daniel Plaza had the most bizarre excuse of all in 1996, when he claimed that having oral sex with his pregnant wife was the reason for a positive steroid test. Nandrolone is produced naturally by pregnant women."
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Re: A novel doping excuse that...worked? [monty] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, I read it. I find it extremely hard to believe - much more so than the tainted meat story.

So many strange things had to come together all at once for this to be true.

1) When she got sick, she did not go to a doctor. She went to some rural "chemist" who provided her with an out-of-production antibiotic that happens to contain this masking agent.

2) She doesn't like swallowing pills so she opens up the capsule and empties it on her tongue.

3) She wants to hide her illness from her olympian boyfriend because she is afraid he will no longer be attracted to her if she is sick.

4) Despite #3, immediately after dumping her antibiotics onto her tongue which still holds drug residue, she decides to risk getting him sick for the Olympics by kissing him, which I'm sure he would look favorably upon afterwards...

5) she just happens to have not finished the course of antibiotics so they have a sample to provide.

Each of those things are pretty weird on their own. Not totally unbelievable, but definitely not normal. All four together? Totally unbelievable. It's the perfect storm 1:1,000,000,000 situation where he could accidentally, through no negligence on his part, be exposed to this masking agent. They did not have to have had this pre-planned. But even if they did, I see no evidence that they are not smart enough to come up with it themselves. But even if they are not, they likely have someone (like a corrupt Dr.) helping them with the doping and suggested to them that they would be smart to have a story and evidence prepared, and provided it to them ahead of time.

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