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Rank these Bike Training Options for Me
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When in shape I am a MOP Triathlete:


  • FOP Swimmer (under 60 minutes IM swim)

  • MOP runner (1:30 last stand alone ½ marathon in 2011 at the age of 42)

  • BOP Biker (terrible, 6.5 hours last IM, and that was overdoing it).

Currently extremely out of shape but have been training on/off for the past 3 months and slowly getting back into it. Easy 4-6 mile run/walks, currently at 8x100 yard easy swims (sometimes in the warm pool at the Y, oh the joy), 30-40 minutes on the stationary bike at the Y slow pedaling.

The next 12 months will consist of easy slow exercise with some basic strength training for my core/ankles/knees/shoulders, otherwise I will get nagging injuries. I have no concerns getting in basic swim (Masters) and run shape (I enjoy solo runs in the early AM), but biking is my Achilles heel. I actually love riding outdoors (although terrible), but am totally paranoid of cars (multiple close calls although no major crashes).

So my question is, of the options below, if the 1st option is by definition a 100, how “good” of a workout can I get for the remaining options relative to the 1st option (I took a stab at it with some comments), understanding it could differ significantly for FOP/in shape athletes


  1. 100 - Tri Bike outside (my bike handling skills are terrible, more aggressive position than road bike and deeper wheels)

  2. 97 - Road Bike outside

  3. 90 - Road Bike on Trainer (Bored out of my mind, I get the point no interruptions, but I would rather shove a pencil in my eye after 15 minutes)

  4. 75 - Mountain Bike on Greenway / Non-Technical trails (typically have to commute 5-10 minutes to get to a suitable trail)

  5. 70 - Spin Bike Class (tough to fit in schedule routinely)

  6. 60 - Upright Stationary Bike (get my 45 minutes daily dose of news channel)

  7. 45 - Recumbent Stationary Bike (most comfortable, majority the nearby “riders” are 80+/retired, makes me feel young, or makes me feel old, not sure)

  8. Other?

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Re: Rank these Bike Training Options for Me [trytj] [ In reply to ]
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trytj wrote:


Mountain Bike
on Greenway / Non-Technical trails (typically have to commute 5-10 minutes to get to a suitable trail)


Change this to a CX (or gravel) bike with aerobars, and I'd rank it very highly. And, you don't have to worry about cars.


Steve

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Re: Rank these Bike Training Options for Me [trytj] [ In reply to ]
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I just got a smart trainer, and while the newness of it is still there, I'm pushing much harder than I ever did outside either alone or with a group.

I think it has a lot to do with no worries about bonking away from home, you just go and if you blow up before finishing the workout you can just get off.

Might be something else to consider.
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Re: Rank these Bike Training Options for Me [trytj] [ In reply to ]
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I (or should I say my wife) is really concerned about safety. I do two rides per week on the trainer and one outdoor at a park with a 5 mile loop. I can get as tough a workout on the trainer as anything I can do outside, no cars, rain, flat tires, bonking away from home, crashing, interruptions, intersections, etc. I watch TV. For my long training rides indoors, I pick a good movie to watch on high def TV.

I vote for #3.
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Re: Rank these Bike Training Options for Me [trytj] [ In reply to ]
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To me it sounds like you have two things to address: fitness and comfort/ease on the bike. If it were me, then I would spend a fair bit of time regaining fitness indoors without the handling/cars variables. From my own experience, I'm more confident on the road/trail when my fitness is higher. After your fitness comes around, start adding some outdoor rides to increase your comfort in those situations.

To the boredom point. If you really are, as you say, wanting to drive a pencil into your eyes after 15 minutes, then you're doing it wrong. What is your current indoor set up? Get a smart trainer, a Trainerroad or Zwift account, a good TV (at the right height), Netflix/Amazon/Hulu/YouTube, and a couple of quality fans (I just ordered two new ones after hearing the guys on the TR podcast talk about them). You'll never consider a recumbent bike at the gym again.

Good luck, keep us updated!

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Re: Rank these Bike Training Options for Me [CCF] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, indoor trainer will always reach a point where you kind of start to hate it. But a good entertainment plan and zwift/trainer road take the sting out.

I went from hating anything over 30 minutes to getting some 3 hour rides in. Took me getting the proper fan and other things to keep comfortable, but now those 30 minute rides I used to dread 2-3 years ago feel like a warm up and I'm doing nearly all my riding on a trainer. Mostly due to convenience and ability to hit goals exactly without worrying about car or stoplights.

Also, you have road bike on trainer vs tri bike outside. why not tri bike in trainer?
Last edited by: KG6: Jan 11, 18 3:06
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Re: Rank these Bike Training Options for Me [KG6] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah. Indoor trainer rides rock.

Get Zwift or Sufferfest for fun. or TrainerRoad for seriously becoming faster. Don't sit there watching TV as that's a waste of time. TV sucks. Sit there and enjoy being on your bike, pushing out watts.

I do 1000's of miles a year indoors and never ever get bored!
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Re: Rank these Bike Training Options for Me [trytj] [ In reply to ]
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Give the indoor trainer a try. You can get very fit off of 3-4x75-90min rides indoors. Let suffering be the entertainment!

Maybe look into the sufferfest (their sessions are supposedly great and not overly long), Zwift, or similar.

For now, while you're going easy, just watch Netflix or old races with some headphones on so that you can't hear the trainer itself. I'm not sure why, but that makes it more bearable for me.

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Re: Rank these Bike Training Options for Me [trytj] [ In reply to ]
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First thing you need is tri specific fitness and then you need bike handling skills. Do TR on your tri bike to build fitness (1.hour workouts) in your Tri position, but I really like the gravel bike/mtn bike idea mentioned above for the bike handling endurance. Do all the endurance stuff riding the greenway to the trails and then cruise the trails for bike handling, balance,.... Ride greenway back.

You really can't skip the hard training time in the tri position.
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