Terrorism Tax

Dec 31, 17 8:50

Post #1 of 22 (1918 views)

The original I read is behind a paywall
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/...terrorism-fight.html

Interesting concept and something that I will have to ponder further. A valid points: Kiddie porn is targeted by these companies and they don't seem to be doing much to limit radicalization online.

Now if some asshole wants to host terrorist crap on his own computer (making tracking easier) or facilitate secure communications for terrorists (making interception easier) that is one thing, but if a multi-national corporation wants to do the same thing they have to be prepared to suffer the consequences. Now I grant there are some civil liberty concerns but without seeing what help is requested and assuming regular civil liberty protections are applied, I don't see this as being a bad thing at all.

Re: Terrorism Tax [windywave] [ In reply to ]

Dec 31, 17 8:58

Post #2 of 22 (1908 views)

Bad idea.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

Re: Terrorism Tax [Duffy] [ In reply to ]

Dec 31, 17 9:03

Post #3 of 22 (1899 views)

Agreed, one mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter. It's also runs completely counter to the concept of free speech.

Re: Terrorism Tax [racin_rusty] [ In reply to ]

Dec 31, 17 9:18

Post #4 of 22 (1887 views)

racin_rusty wrote:

Agreed, one mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter. It's also runs completely counter to the concept of free speech.

How is this counter to free speech?

Re: Terrorism Tax [windywave] [ In reply to ]

Dec 31, 17 10:08

Post #5 of 22 (1859 views)

Ah yes, America! Where free speech is a theory not a reality.

Re: Terrorism Tax [racin_rusty] [ In reply to ]

Dec 31, 17 10:11

Post #6 of 22 (1855 views)

racin_rusty wrote:

Ah yes, America! Where free speech is a theory not a reality.

I'm serious. I am a big defender of freedom of speech, I don't see how this infringes upon it, unless you want to go the derivative route. And you should talk, Canada's (and most of the Commonwealth to be fair) version of freedom is speech is a joke.

Re: Terrorism Tax [windywave] [ In reply to ]

Dec 31, 17 10:23

Post #7 of 22 (1847 views)

So you think it's okay for a bureaucrat to decide what's terrorism and what's not and then add a fee for what they deem in their view 'taxable'. Yeah, like nothing could ever possibly go wrong with that idea.

What would you know about Canada's charter? I'm guaranteed under the charter the right to freedom of expression.

Re: Terrorism Tax [racin_rusty] [ In reply to ]

Dec 31, 17 10:25

Post #8 of 22 (1844 views)

racin_rusty wrote:

So you think it's okay for a bureaucrat to decide what's terrorism and what's not and then add a fee for what they deem in their view 'taxable'. Yeah, like nothing could ever possibly go wrong with that idea.

What would you know about Canada's charter? I'm guaranteed under the charter the right to freedom of expression.

That's not what is being proposed.

A fair amount actually relative to most Americans since I took a comparative law course that focused on Canada

Re: Terrorism Tax [windywave] [ In reply to ]

Dec 31, 17 10:36

Post #9 of 22 (1834 views)

windywave wrote:

A fair amount actually relative to most Americans since I took a comparative law course that focused on Canada

Don't you think you're taking your obsession with Canada a little too far?
I only bring this upbecause I worry about you developing an acute case of CDS (Canada Derangement Syndrome)

Remember - It's important to be comfortable in your own skin... because it turns out society frowns on wearing other people's

Re: Terrorism Tax [Guffaw] [ In reply to ]

Dec 31, 17 10:40

Post #10 of 22 (1831 views)

Guffaw wrote:

windywave wrote:

A fair amount actually relative to most Americans since I took a comparative law course that focused on Canada

Don't you think you're taking your obsession with Canada a little too far?
I only bring this upbecause I worry about you developing an acute case of CDS (Canada Derangement Syndrome)

I took the class a long time ago and personally focused on the securities laws in Canada. It's quite interesting and different than the US especially with regard to regulatory powers and enforcement.

Re: Terrorism Tax [windywave] [ In reply to ]

Dec 31, 17 10:45

Post #11 of 22 (1830 views)

What do Canadian securities law have to do with the charter in respect to freedom of speech?

Re: Terrorism Tax [racin_rusty] [ In reply to ]

Dec 31, 17 10:49

Post #12 of 22 (1826 views)

racin_rusty wrote:

What do Canadian securities law have to do with the charter in respect to freedom of speech?

Studied Canadian Legal System as a whole. I personally focused on the securities laws.

Re: Terrorism Tax [racin_rusty] [ In reply to ]

Jan 1, 18 9:02

Post #13 of 22 (1693 views)

racin_rusty wrote:

Ah yes, America! Where free speech is a theory not a reality.

okaaaay... but this article is about the UK. sooooo....

Re: Terrorism Tax [tfleeger] [ In reply to ]

Jan 1, 18 9:04

Post #14 of 22 (1690 views)

tfleeger wrote:

racin_rusty wrote:

Ah yes, America! Where free speech is a theory not a reality.

okaaaay... but this article is about the UK. sooooo....

He's Canadian, but one of the good ones

Re: Terrorism Tax [windywave] [ In reply to ]

Jan 1, 18 9:41

Post #15 of 22 (1669 views)

windywave wrote:

tfleeger wrote:

racin_rusty wrote:

Ah yes, America! Where free speech is a theory not a reality.

okaaaay... but this article is about the UK. sooooo....

He's Canadian, but one of the good ones

That’s a pretty low bar to meet.

Re: Terrorism Tax [davec] [ In reply to ]

Jan 1, 18 9:43

Post #16 of 22 (1667 views)

davec wrote:

windywave wrote:

tfleeger wrote:

racin_rusty wrote:

Ah yes, America! Where free speech is a theory not a reality.

okaaaay... but this article is about the UK. sooooo....

He's Canadian, but one of the good ones

That’s a pretty low bar to meet.

True but he's well above the bar.

Re: Terrorism Tax [windywave] [ In reply to ]

Jan 1, 18 9:49

Post #17 of 22 (1663 views)

He's Canadian, but one of the good ones

Wait! There is some good that comes out of Canada? :)

Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog

Re: Terrorism Tax [Fleck] [ In reply to ]

Jan 1, 18 10:03

Post #18 of 22 (1653 views)

I'm pretty sure the bar he's referring to is 'not Cerveloguy'.

Re: Terrorism Tax [racin_rusty] [ In reply to ]

Jan 1, 18 10:12

Post #19 of 22 (1645 views)

I think he, and other Trump supporters can't handle how overtly CerveloGuy is anti-Trump - but the anti-trump sentiment is wide-spread in Canada.

Globe & Mail Editorial from a few days ago - https://www.theglobeandmail.com/...ait/article37454472/

Steve Fleck @stevefleck | Blog

Re: Terrorism Tax [Fleck] [ In reply to ]

Jan 1, 18 10:21

Post #20 of 22 (1640 views)

Honestly I wish we'd spend more time concentrating on things we have control over. Trump isn't one of them.

Re: Terrorism Tax [Fleck] [ In reply to ]

Jan 1, 18 11:27

Post #21 of 22 (1620 views)

Fleck wrote:

I think he, and other Trump supporters can't handle how overtly CerveloGuy is anti-Trump - but the anti-trump sentiment is wide-spread in Canada.

Globe & Mail Editorial from a few days ago - https://www.theglobeandmail.com/...ait/article37454472/

Talking about me? My issue is his overt anti-Americanism and hypocrisy vis a vis his alleged human rights/civil rights ideals and support of an oppressive regime. He has no defense and offers none. For the record I don't like Trump, nut he is not Hillary.

Re: Terrorism Tax [racin_rusty] [ In reply to ]

Jan 1, 18 11:30

Post #22 of 22 (1615 views)

racin_rusty wrote:

Honestly I wish we'd spend more time concentrating on things we have control over. Trump isn't one of them.

Preach it brother Rusty

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