That's a pretty stupid point to make. Nobody claimed that Weinstein's actions were the benchmark for what constitutes sexual harassment.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

you just did in your prior post - and this equivalency has been one of yours, sheer and dudfy’s main points

You're just making shit up at this point.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Seriously.

It's the hashtaggery itself that makes the claim of equivalency. "Oh, I see there were a lot of women who were sexually harassed in the most extreme way, many of them sexually assaulted, and some of them possibly even raped outright. #metoo."

sphere's original point was that many of the women who posted the hashtag weren't, probably, victims of the same level of harassment/abuse/rape, and that including every minor incident in the campaign trivializes the serious abuse.

A lot of people have observed the very large number of women who posted #metoo, and claimed that every women has been the victim of some sort of harassment. That makes it sound as if women are showing up to work and getting raped by the boss on a regular basis, which is ridiculous. Most of the behavior tagged #metoo does not come close to Weinstein's. Does that matter? Yeah, it matters. How we should proceed to address the problem depends on how widespread the problem actually is, and how severe it is. If women are routinely getting raped in workplaces across America, we might need to do something dramatically different than if women just occasionally get leered at or feel uncomfortable or are slighted or whatever.

All these cases are not the same. They shouldn't be given equivalency because it's somehow not acceptable to question a woman who claims to have been sexually harassed without even providing details of her claim.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

I disagree with this. What they are trying to do is make the minor stuff major. Someone called you sweetie at work? Well, you were practically raped!

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Right. Which kinda trivializes rape, no?

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Adam Sandler caught groping a woman during interview:

For the sane, yes. But for the insane it maximizes the horribleness of the sweetie comment. And that's the group they are focusing on.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

That would be attempted rape.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

So after 17 pages of back and forth, a few weeks have passed. Now do you think there have been any positive effects of this campaign? I am not asking facetiously. Lots of prominent people being outed as either predators or at the very least asshats. Seems to me that the movement has at a very minimum emboldened some victims. So maybe, just maybe there is some value to "awareness raising".

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Sure. I'm not losing any sleep over creepers getting their comeuppance. In fact, I think this was a highly effective "awareness raising" campaign, insofar as it put offenders on notice that the collision of old-school assgrabbery and the age of social media will not end well for them. Apparently that's a message that needed high profile delivery.

It's also notable that the large majority of outed offenders are of an older generation and are being skewered for past sins far more so than those recent. That may be representative of the fact that high profile people tend to be older in general, or it may harbor some truth about younger people's understanding of appropriate behavior and personal boundaries. My concerns about painting a picture of a now that largely reflects then remain, and it's a concern that applies broadly about the diverging trend lines in public opinion regarding the perception and the reality of justice in modern America, but I've always maintained that sunlight is the best disinfectant, so I'm not protesting too loudly about the direction this is taking.

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W

I'm thinking that when the history books are written, the me too# thing will be credited with starting a cultural tidal wave.

And I was a doubter.

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It doesn't really matter what Phil is saying, the music of his voice is the appropriate soundtrack for a bicycle race. HTupolev

I was a doubter as well - not anymore. Unless/until we see accusations of minor instances and false accusations I’m glad this shit is getting exposed. Virtually all are repeat, clear offenders and the offended are emboldened.

Good. Fucking great. My only complaint is the private sector DBags are skewered and the politicians, this far, are skating. That’s a damn shame.

Hyde (Danny Masterson) come on down! Charged with 3 counts of rape.

The Masterson trial just wrapped up the Find Out phase.




I don't think I've ever heard of a penalty this harsh for rape, though I don't know the presumably aggravating circumstances.

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W

 

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Ok then. Not a whisp of sympathy from me. What a POS.

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W

Have you been following the Kucher-Kunis saga? Hoo boy that went over about as well as I was expecting.

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W

I'm going to not trash them. They aren't rocket surgeons and they were asked to talk about someone who was their friend for years. Kutcher also was very careful before when asked about the case. Said something about hoping it wasn't true but he couldn't comment further because he didn't know.

It would have been much better to shut up but I can see why they did it.

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.