zedzded wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
zedzded wrote:
ARtridad74 wrote:
This will probably get me blasted but...For ME PERSONALLY when I was "close" to qualifying I didn't go to rolldown and hope for a spot to be handed to me. I looked at it like I just needed to work a little harder and earn it. That was just what I wanted to do though.
I have a similar philosophy. I'm only going if I qualify not with a rolldown. I want to feel like I deserved it.
How do you guys control who shows up? I have finished in 10th at a 70.3 with the same time as the previous year when I won my age group. There is no logic in what some of you guys are saying because on any given day your race could be stacked or not depending on who goes where. Rolldown is a qualification....your outright qual could be 10th or 15th place at the race 2 states over or over in Europe or Australia. There is no logic to what you guys are saying. They are all qualifications. It's just how the system works and let's not even get going on age groups having over or under representation of slots....the number of slots, and who shows up is out of your control, so any slot you get is a straight up qualification. You guys may be inflating your worth patting yourself on the back for outright qual at an ustacked race or beating yourself up for no qual at a stacked race. The true measure is where you finish at the WC event or Kona, not how you got there.
Yeah some valid points. There are some guns in my age group that aren't that far off the slower pros, so if 3 or 4 of then turn up, there's no chance of me getting on the podium. I guess if I don't place, but I do get a good time, have a good race, meet my goals etc then yeah take a spot.
I wouldn't want to be finishing 30th or something and taking a spot. Similarly with Kona, I don't want to travel to China and qualify in some 70.3. If others want to do that, then that's fine. I don't have a problem with that. Had a few mates go to Chattanooga despite finishing well outside the top 20. They had a great time, good on them, but it's just not how I want to do it.
You know full well that it will be a cold day in hell before you every finish 30th in a qualifier race in your age group so it is easy to say that and you also know full well that if the top dogs all showed up, and you did a great race that would normally be a podium when they don't show up, then you also take the slot. So basically what you are saying is, " I really won't take a slot unless I do my normal good race and since normally that's a podium, well I won't take anything less than a podium....well unless all the studs who beat me at worlds show up".
The reasons why I beat up on you is because you're normally a podium guy and even though going to world's via a podium is your internal metric on what you want to achieve to get to worlds (with the exception of all the world's studs showing up),
the way is comes across is that if you don't podium you don't deserve to go.
I've qualified outright for Kona and Worlds and gone via rolldown. No one cares how you got there, and really its kind of stupid to base your qualification cut off based on others when the slot comes to you.... in the sense that you can only control your own performance and your place is arbitrary. If Sanders races 25-29, Kienle 30-34, Frodo 35-39, Crowie 40-44, Lessing 45-49, ....pretty well everyone here gets destroyed, so its beyond arbitrary who shows up and who races in what division. Chances are, the fastest guys are not at your local race unless you are the world's podium guy and even then the fastest guy in your age range is racing pro anyway.
