So whats the solution then? People like the nurse just accepting when theyre fucked over? Suing is the only real way they have to fight back.

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who's smarter than you're? i'm!

Given my assertion earlier that the nurse SHOULD sue, it is obvious that is not my position. That said, do you really believe this nurse was "harmed" to the tune of $500k???

Hitting municipalities with large financial penalties as a "punishment" does more harm to the residents of the municipality than good.

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If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers

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Ok

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who's smarter than you're? i'm!

lol. What is it that she's fighting back against? Was the officer not disciplined? Is there some ongoing injustice that a financial penalty stands to remedy?

It's the only way to cash in. It's opportunistic. Plain and simple.

I'd imagine a half million dollars could go a long way in adding value to that community. Library expansion, playground improvement, civic program funding.

I'm sure she offered to drop the suit if the department made certain necessary changes, right?

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W

The nurse was assaulted. She had her rights infringed. She wasnt looking for a lawsuit. She was trying to do her job and a government agent punished her for it. So she sued. Thats not opportunistic. What other option does she have?

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who's smarter than you're? i'm!

Not suing the taxpayers and settling for discipline as justice served.

Obviously.

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W

Doea it work the other way around? Are you against restitution paid by citizens to the state?

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who's smarter than you're? i'm!

Not in principle, no. If you're assuming I'm against restitution to individuals from the community, I'm not.

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W

Show me evidence of the physical damages she incurred, lost productivity, etc, and I'm sure we could agree on a reasonable ballpark figure for remuneration. I'm entirely supportive of that.

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W

I'd have sued just out of spite and for more than that. Remember, they weren't going to do anything despite her complaints and obvious knowledge the officer in question was in the wrong until the body cam footage became public knowledge.

I wouldn't want to be in her position. Turn it around. If they came to you beforehand and asked you to play her part of being assaulted, becoming a viral discussion point and having your life turned upside down, at least temporarily, what would you want to be paid for it? Would "Justice Served" make it all worthwhile?

I'm not sure I would sign up for that at 500K.

"I'd have sued just out of spite and for more than that."

I appreciate your honesty. You're among the vast majority.

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W

I've thought about that. I think there's more value in leading by example and using the platform to advocate for whatever change is needed, including in the common way of thinking about punishing the community for another's bad deeds.

This, I think, is a relatively modern way of thinking about entitlements and punishment. It's not healthy.

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W

Show me evidence that she's using her leverage for change and not just personal enrichment, and I'm open to reconsidering.

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W

I don't know, you've probably heard of weregild? I think in western Europe throughout much of the middle ages, maybe even up to quite recent times, compensation for wrongs usually involved some sort of monetary pay back, if not to the person then to their family. It's kind of the same thing, just different entities forking over the money. Did she sue him in civil court as well? I have no idea.

The article I read said she's donating some of the money to some entity involved in getting people access to body cam footage in these sorts of situations. Not sure who it is or how they go about doing that. Suggests the city wasn't very forthcoming in her case.

Well taking a bat to that fucker's knees would be more satisfying but stupid. Suing is sort of all you got, if you don't want to end up in an even worse situation.

That's real easy to say from a point of detachment when it's somebody else you don't know. If it was your wife or daughter putting up with that shit, I'd bet the global good is not at the forefront of your thoughts.

That's undeniably true. Emotion is notoriously effective at clouding judgment.

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W

IMO, the money should first come out of the salary and pension of the officer involved, the Chief of Police, and the Mayor. Make it hurt their bottom line first. Make sure that all parties have skin in the game.

So, you want the Mayor to be legally and financially responsible for the actions of every single civil servant employed by his municipality???

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If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers

Emery's Third Coast Triathlon | Tri Wisconsin Triathlon Team | Push Endurance | GLWR