The science is clearly settled.

If I lived in Manitoba, I'd probably kill myself too. Is there any data on how many of those 18 out of 1000 repeatedly attempted suicide after failing the first time then realizing they were still in Manitoba?

Not really surprised BC is that high. If you live farther north on the coast, you can get over 250 days a year of rain and grey skies and the nearest "city" is a 16 hour drive away.

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The secret of a long life is you try not to shorten it.
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  https://www.theatlantic.com/...a-generation/534198/ We can make Manitoba better if we can get them off their cellphones. Just heard this morning that in Ontario 47 people killed so far this year by distracted drivers on OPP patrolled highways up from 39 last year. More than speeding and drunk driving combined.

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They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

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Take a short break from ST and read my blog:
http://tri-banter.blogspot.com/

Yep, higher rates in northern BC, but not as high as I thought it'd be.

http://www2.gov.bc.ca/...tistical/suicide.pdf

I'm pretty sure the rate is also highly skewed by the first nations population, for which suicide is a major issue.

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Agreed.

Statistics that I've seen place suicide rates among First Nations youth to be 5 to 7 times higher than average. And that trend seems to be increasing. It's a disturbing and sad problem to which I have no answers.

I'm guessing close proximity to Detroit provides a healthy dose of "it could always be worse, eh?"

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The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W

If I lived in Manitoba, I'd probably kill myself too.

When people are asked to find N. Korea on a map, and they point at Canada, they are actually pointing at Manitoba.

I honestly couldn't live anywhere on the prairies. All those jokes about watching your dog running away for three days is depressing enough. I've always said that every Canadian should drive across the prairies once in their lives just to get a feeling for the vastness. But anytime after that, feel free to fly over.

As a born and raised Manitoban I cannot dispute any of the science.

We have the largest aboriginal population of any province in Canada and that is a huge driver for our suicide numbers.

But the fact is Winnipeg, and Manitoba have long been the murder capital of Canada as well as the crime capital.

We are an NDP loving, socialist, have-not province that lives on the welfare (equalization payments) of the other provinces. Over 25% of our entire provincial revenue comes from Federal transfers. We have the shittiest, coldest, longest winters imaginable. Our summers are short, filled with mosquitos and road construction. There is pretty much zero private construction or investment and nothing gets built in this province unless one, two, or all three levels of government pay for it.

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Charity is injurious unless it helps the recipient to become independent of it. John D. Rockefeller Sr.

I was born in Winnipeg and grew up in Brandon until the age of 13.

When we were living in Brandon, my dad came home one day, sat the family down, and asked us what we thought about moving.

I literally jumped up and screamed "Yes, please yes!!!" He said, "Do you want to know where?".

I haven't been back in over 30 years.

That was really funny. Dad hadn't even said "where" you might move. I'll be laughing about that all morning.

I just looked at a map of Canada. To my very great surprise you guys have a province that I'd never heard of. I mean, heck, I've lived just S of you for 55yrs, you'd think I'd have a grasp of your geography. Near as I can tell your northern province of Nunavut is about the size of the US and extends over the pole to Russia. Ok, maybe the Mercator projection in Google maps is exaggerating N-S dimensions just a bit, but still, it's damned big.

My mother's family settled in Washington state while they were still deeding free land to settlers. They got a square mile of farmland on the Canadian border. Soon after they bought Canadian land so the farm extended across the border. No fence no barrier of any kind. So whereas I think of a nation's border as a highway checkpoint, she thinks of the border as separating one row of blueberries from another.

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"If only he had used his genius for niceness, instead of Evil." M. Smart

Well, we ended up in Vancouver. Great place grow up.

Nunavut is our newest territory (not a province) formed in 1999. It used to be part of the Northwest Territories. Although it is our largest territory or province, it has less than 40,000 people and only 1 member of parliament. It's the world's largest electoral district by area!

I was in Port Angeles for the first 1/2 of grade school. Was a total blast. We'd ride the ferry to Vancouver to visit my grandmother.

In the past decade I've been back to the Vancouver area a couple times for ski trips and family reunions. I live on the coast of GA now tho, so all of that is a long ways away.

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Port Angeles and surrounding area is amazing. I'm just across the water in Victoria, and often gaze at the lights of PA and the surrounding Olympic mountains while walking with the dog or out for a night run. One of my favourite things to do is get some friends up nice and early, take the coho across, ride up to hurricane ridge, then get back to the docks in time for a beer and lunch while we wait for the ride home. I'd love to spend more time exploring the olympic peninsula.

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Lol, "Hurricane Ridge". I've not heard that name in decades. That's where my parents taught me to ski. Age 5, 1967. IIRC, it was only 45min from the house, up scary roads where the only thing preventing a sliding car from plunging down the mountainside was a painted line. No chairlifts, just rope tows. I only barely had to the grip strength to hang on to the tow rope because the intermediate and advanced slope tow ropes went fast and up steep hills. When some guy in front of me on the rope would set it to whipping around, the rope would lift me up and fling me 5m away into a snow drift. One rope went over a defile and I didn't weigh enough to keep the rope near the ground. For 10m I'd dangle from the rope until the ground came back up under my flailing skis.

Little kids being maniacs, I'd fly down the hill with my proprietary 150mph snowplow technique. Good times.

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"If only he had used his genius for niceness, instead of Evil." M. Smart

I can see the ad campaign now...

"Come to Ontario
And find out why only 5 in 1000 want to kill themselves. "