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Re: The mooch is gone already? [sphere] [ In reply to ]
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So he used his leverage to get Priebus canned, and Priebus' replacement promptly stomped his ass.

It's all too reminiscent of Trump firing Comey, which led directly to Mueller strapping on his own ass stomping boots.

Strong work, boys.

They're playing checkers and not chess. Good politicians should be playing chess and thinking several moves ahead.

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Re: The mooch is gone already? [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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They should just start flogging themselves directly and save HR all that paperwork.

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Re: The mooch is gone already? [Old Hickory] [ In reply to ]
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Only the deranged believed/feared there was going to be a physical wall.


Sure. I'll agree to that. Except one of those deranged people was the guy who said this:

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For example, there’s this, from his conversation with reporters on Air Force One as he made his way to Paris earlier this week.


One of the things with the wall is you need transparency. You have to be able to see through it. In other words, if you can’t see through that wall — so it could be a steel wall with openings, but you have to have openings because you have to see what’s on the other side of the wall.
And I’ll give you an example. As horrible as it sounds, when they throw the large sacks of drugs over, and if you have people on the other side of the wall, you don’t see them — they hit you on the head with 60 pounds of stuff? It’s over. As crazy as that sounds, you need transparency through that wall.


Maybe his plan was something like only the smartest people could see the wall. Only the dumb can't see the wall.

Either way, at least one nutter seem worried about implications of a physical wall.


I viewed Trump's wall the same as Obama's Hope and Change. They were both playing games with people's minds.


Hope and Change is not the same as saying you will build a wall. Hope and Change is the same as MAGA. Both sayings. A wall is physical and Trump's been saying construction & design is progressing. But I'm sure, just like healthcare, whatever happens with the wall, it will be just as he predicted.
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Re: The mooch is gone already? [ironmayb] [ In reply to ]
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ironmayb wrote:
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Hoping Medal of Honor Mccloughan rubs off on Prez today. Time for this man to look deeply into the mirror and change his trajectory. Not easy but it can be done, incorporate a bit of humble pie into his daily diet.


Again, I hope you are right. But I read "Art of the Deal" as a college student enamored with the business world hoping to gain something, and came away shocked at what a tool this guy is. I don't feel any different 30 years on.

If he changes it's only because there is something in it for him. I don't see any humble pie on the menu.....

Meantime, I am hoping those around him can be better counselors/buffers etc.

yep. there's really no reason to expect that kelly is the secret ingredient that's been missing in this administration (or in trump's life). i'd be very curious to hear why kelly took the job, though.

if i were betting my own money i'd guess that kelly doesn't last too long. i just think that their styles and personalities are so different. the marine is going to hate the chaos and indiscipline, and trump will not respond at all well to someone trying to military levels of order, either.

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Re: The mooch is gone already? [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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yep. there's really no reason to expect that kelly is the secret ingredient that's been missing in this administration (or in trump's life). i'd be very curious to hear why kelly took the job, though.

if i were betting my own money i'd guess that kelly doesn't last too long. i just think that their styles and personalities are so different. the marine is going to hate the chaos and indiscipline, and trump will not respond at all well to someone trying to military levels of order, either.


I'll take that gentleman's bet. I bet he lasts the rest of the term.
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Re: The mooch is gone already? [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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The GMAN wrote:
sphere wrote:
So he used his leverage to get Priebus canned, and Priebus' replacement promptly stomped his ass.

It's all too reminiscent of Trump firing Comey, which led directly to Mueller strapping on his own ass stomping boots.

Strong work, boys.

They're playing checkers and not chess. Good politicians should be playing chess and thinking several moves ahead.

Nah, Trump is just to brilliant for you to even comprehend what he's doing. He has the best strategies.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: The mooch is gone already? [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
iron_mike wrote:

yep. there's really no reason to expect that kelly is the secret ingredient that's been missing in this administration (or in trump's life). i'd be very curious to hear why kelly took the job, though.

if i were betting my own money i'd guess that kelly doesn't last too long. i just think that their styles and personalities are so different. the marine is going to hate the chaos and indiscipline, and trump will not respond at all well to someone trying to military levels of order, either.


I'll take that gentleman's bet. I bet he lasts the rest of the term.

Agreeing here...for lack of a better term it seems like the crowd from the "deep state" had an "intervention" with Trump and presented him a few "options" about how the rest of his term will play out. Either that or Trump simply has a hard on for Kelly.

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Re: The mooch is gone already? [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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The WaPo is reporting that Mattis and Kelly set up a rotation to ensure that both of them were not out of the country at the same time to "keep tabs" on the President and his orders.

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Kelly and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, another retired general, were also said to have been deeply frustrated with the rollout of Trump’s refugee and immigration ban, and made clear to associates that they were not involved in drafting it or aware of its details around the time that Trump signed the original order. Both moved swiftly to address gaps in the measure, with Mattis asking that Iraqis who helped U.S. troops be exempt and Kelly clarifying that green-card holders would not be affected.
Nonetheless, Kelly launched a particularly robust defense of the order to lawmakers and reporters, which was welcomed by the White House.
Mattis and Kelly also agreed in the earliest weeks of Trump’s presidency that one of them should remain in the United States at all times to keep tabs on the orders rapidly emerging from the White House, according to a person familiar with the discussions. The official insisted on anonymity in order to discuss the administration’s internal dynamics.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/...m_term=.8a67f4922c91

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Re: The mooch is gone already? [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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The WaPo is reporting that Mattis and Kelly set up a rotation to ensure that both of them were not out of the country at the same time to "keep tabs" on the President and his orders.

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Kelly and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, another retired general, were also said to have been deeply frustrated with the rollout of Trump’s refugee and immigration ban, and made clear to associates that they were not involved in drafting it or aware of its details around the time that Trump signed the original order. Both moved swiftly to address gaps in the measure, with Mattis asking that Iraqis who helped U.S. troops be exempt and Kelly clarifying that green-card holders would not be affected.
Nonetheless, Kelly launched a particularly robust defense of the order to lawmakers and reporters, which was welcomed by the White House.
Mattis and Kelly also agreed in the earliest weeks of Trump’s presidency that one of them should remain in the United States at all times to keep tabs on the orders rapidly emerging from the White House, according to a person familiar with the discussions. The official insisted on anonymity in order to discuss the administration’s internal dynamics.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/...m_term=.8a67f4922c91

Yeah, it's called "Fire Watch".

  • Fire Watch – Sentry on duty specifically guarding a person, place, object, or area in a non-combat area (such as a barracks); considered under arms but usually unarmed. See also duty & OOD.


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Re: The mooch is gone already? [mck414] [ In reply to ]
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They are good at being Marines. Marines do Marine things.

Suffer Well.
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Re: The mooch is gone already? [Old Hickory] [ In reply to ]
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Let me ask you this: How "successful" would Trump be if he didn't get a $200million head start in life?

You call people deranged who question the guy, yet what are the objectively positive things to say about how he's supposedly leading the country?

This isn't about the Democrats. It's about how awful Trump's leadership is. He has a majority in Congress. It takes a really poor leader to not get anything through that.



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Mooch is that you? Nope, that's more like a Sean Spicer quote.

You need apply for the open Communications Director job, that's a nice spin with the added effect of denigrating Obama. Is it possible to objectively say Trump sucks without bringing up Obama or Hillary?

Let me help you. Trump is full of shit. He has been been a con man his whole life, I feel bad for the people who actually bought his con, and even worse for those that still do. For fuck's sake, he failed in the casino business. He is all about himself, he never has served anyone but himself, he bullies his way through life, his word as a useless as his scotch tape tie holder and he has no moral compass or loyalty.


Okay. I'll mark you down as one of the deranged.
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Re: The mooch is gone already? [MidwestRoadie] [ In reply to ]
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You call people deranged who question the guy, yet what are the objectively positive things to say about how he's supposedly leading the country?

He's getting rid of the brown people or at least making a show of it which counts for a lot with his base.
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Re: The mooch is gone already? [MidwestRoadie] [ In reply to ]
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Don't try to reason with Old Hickory. His Trump Love Syndrome (TLS) overcomes his ability to actually recognize a chaotic dumpster fire of a whitehouse.

You are wasting your time.

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Re: The mooch is gone already? [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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But Old Hickory is the self proclaimed wisest person here, so his opinion must be worth his weight in sawdust.
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Re: The mooch is gone already? [Sideways] [ In reply to ]
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Sideways wrote:
...but SNL did not even have a chance to cast someone to portray the Mooch yet!

Let's all shed a quiet tear for Joe Piscopo...
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Re: The mooch is gone already? [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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The GMAN wrote:
sphere wrote:
So he used his leverage to get Priebus canned, and Priebus' replacement promptly stomped his ass.

It's all too reminiscent of Trump firing Comey, which led directly to Mueller strapping on his own ass stomping boots.

Strong work, boys.


They're playing checkers and not chess. Good politicians should be playing chess and thinking several moves ahead.


Nah, Trump is just to brilliant for you to even comprehend what he's doing. He has the best strategies.

The BEST! In fact, when he meets with the 'the generals' they're always really impressed by how much he knows about strategies.
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Re: The mooch is gone already? [OneGoodLeg] [ In reply to ]
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The BEST! In fact, when he meets with the 'the generals' they're always really impressed by how much he knows about strategies.
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Re: The mooch is gone already? [j p o] [ In reply to ]
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;-)






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