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Virginia Governor Race - A Bellweather
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Maybe the democrats aren't pursuing the suicidal path of the left after all.

Virginia is always looked as for its off year governor election to take the pulse of the national electorate. I don't think it served as much of one for the republicans as the democrats. The trump guy just barely lost the primary to the establishment guy (Ed Gillespie). For those who don't know, Ed Gillespie was the RNC chair under Bush at one point. So he is mainstream and he was also the last republican candidate for governor. So I don't know how much republican satisfaction/dissatisfaction for trump played a role, vs line of succession and political inertia.

But on the democrat side, you had two well established and liked politicians running. The guy who was supported by Bernie and Elizabeth Warren and ran on their same outrageous rhetoric lost by a good number. Maybe the democrats will learn something, which isn't a good thing. But this Northam guy looks like a traditional Virginian democrat from a couple decades back. Before Northern Virginia alone could swing an election.


http://wtop.com/...nor_primary_results/

https://www.nytimes.com/...e&pgtype=article
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Re: Virginia Governor Race - A Bellweather [Rod Thruster] [ In reply to ]
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I love Virginia. It's achingly beautiful in many parts. I was stationed down in Tidewater and up in the Beltway as well as over at Quantico for a time. One of my undergrad degrees is even from Old Dominion University in Norfolk. The wife and I would probably live there if the state didn't tax military pensions. At any rate, here's to hoping that whoever is elected does right by the state.

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."
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Re: Virginia Governor Race - A Bellweather [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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I would think anybody would be better than the sleazebag and political opportunist in office now. Part of me is glad that there are already two dems in senate seat, since he can't ooze his way into one of those positions. That was actually one of my biggest fears were Hillary to win. McAuliffe would have definitely left early to take the seat. Maybe with a republican governor, we can get Kaine next go around. Warner is still staying measured, but definitely pushing the envelope of the moderate, even conservative stance that got him elected in VA to begin with.
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Re: Virginia Governor Race - A Bellweather [Rod Thruster] [ In reply to ]
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The Democrats aren't true left. They are moderate Republicans. Your view of a suicidal left Democratic party is just a smoke screen they throw up.
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Re: Virginia Governor Race - A Bellweather [Tibbsy] [ In reply to ]
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No, democrats in Virginia may be viewed as moderate republicans on a national level. Maybe the same with statewide democrat officials in Texas. But make no mistake, democrats like Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders or even Pelosi are not electable on a national scale. No way, and I was actually counting on this trend.

I want to see more people like Bernie who talk about taking away stuff from some people to give to others as millenials start to mature and actually start paying taxes and buying homes. They will quickly find out that they are the ones that these people want to take from and give to others.
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Re: Virginia Governor Race - A Bellweather [Rod Thruster] [ In reply to ]
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Can you show me where the Democratic has made huge moves to bring about socialist policies? Hell Pelosi, Warren and Clinton flat out state they will block single payer. They go with every war and increase in military spending. They never ever fight the Republicans on any bill and bend over for all Republican wants. I know you need to hate the Democrats and you should continue to do so but they are not left.
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Re: Virginia Governor Race - A Bellweather [Tibbsy] [ In reply to ]
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I'm sure you can find enough such debate here if you try. There are a few years of profound debate that happened here on the very topic while you were gone. If you really think todays democratic party with their identity politics and social agenda are moderate republicans, than that says more about you than them. Now if you want to argue about political inertia and who is really in charge means that both parties really can't do what they run on, we can talk. But I'm not going to waste my time explaining to you what should be plain as day to any objective person.

By the way, democrats would love to have passed a single payer system, but would have been even more distructive if not reached through incremental steps. The first step was to pass the unsustainable "Obamacare". The second step will be the slightly more, but ultimately not sustainable thing working its way through congress. Maybe there will be a third like an expansion of medicare to lower age brackets to reduce the risk to insurers. But the final step will be the single payer system you think you want. The system will likely cover the basic needs of everyone with a few gimmes to special interest (like abortion on demand). But better or best care will be supplemental and likely taxed the hell out of because the masses will demand that the haves pay dearly for having better care. And this will be the system until liberal democrats demand that the national system provide even more luxuries to the masses that elect them. Eventually that system will crowd out the supplemental systems the haves can afford, and then we have a shitty system for all who don't have the cash to pay for good services out of pocket.

Don't worry, your liberal utopia will come to fruition. It always does eventually.
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Re: Virginia Governor Race - A Bellweather [Rod Thruster] [ In reply to ]
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Liberals are idiots. Like I said enjoy you hate of the Democrats it's just they aren't the ones you should be looking out for.
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Re: Virginia Governor Race - A Bellweather [Rod Thruster] [ In reply to ]
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But this Northam guy looks like a traditional Virginian democrat from a couple decades back.

Both Northam and Perriello ran heavily anti-Trump ads. In Mr. Northam's ads, he flat out calls Pres Trump a "narcissistic maniac."

It would be interesting to see how that dynamic might work with DC and VA so close. Awkward moment during the first time the Pres invites all the governors to dinner or something.

Slowguy

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Re: Virginia Governor Race - A Bellweather [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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I think there is a big difference between being partisan, being anti-trump, calling it how you see it and being a left wing by case.

Trump gives every democrat the excuse to attack him with impunity. He even gives republicans the capital to distance themselves.
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Re: Virginia Governor Race - A Bellweather [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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slowguy wrote:
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But this Northam guy looks like a traditional Virginian democrat from a couple decades back.


Both Northam and Perriello ran heavily anti-Trump ads. In Mr. Northam's ads, he flat out calls Pres Trump a "narcissistic maniac."

It would be interesting to see how that dynamic might work with DC and VA so close. Awkward moment during the first time the Pres invites all the governors to dinner or something.

A physician/politician calling someone a "narcissistic maniac"

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