h2ofun wrote:
I eat breakfast each morning at 4:30. I then exercise various swim/bike/runs each day for about 3 hours, finish around 8:30 to 9. I would never start on an empty stomach. I am not fasting, IMO. I then each lunch always at 12, dinner at 5:30. Depending on what the scale says each night, the amount of food I eat for lunch and dinner can vary daily.
Now, if I became super hunger, I would eat something, but that generally does not happen.
Now after races, like at Bend last weekend, I eat everything I can find. Have done this for 5 days now since I was on vacation. Will see what the scale says tonight.
ericmulk wrote:
Dave - This eating/workout schedule is pretty much what i was recalling from past threads. So, you're not doing a 3-hr workout on an empty stomach and, while you don't eat right after the workout, you do eat lunch about 3 hr later, then dinner 5 hr after that. Thus you're fueling up with a good breakfast, then refueling with lunch and dinn, with no p.m. workout to worry about since you've already done plenty in the a.m. I think some people thought you were saying you trained 3 hr on an empty stomach, and did not refuel for several hr afterward, which is clearly not the case.
h2ofun wrote:
I never ever said I trained on an empty stomach.
I did say I never eat directly after a workout. I just finished 1.5 hours on the bike. No food. After my 1.5 hour run, no food until lunch.
I am just always amazed how some folks read into something that was never stated, let alone attack on it. But, this is the world of fake new and social media, lets not true to seek to understand first, and make sure things are facts before responding, or attacking.
I would never train, or race on an empty stomach. I am just not a pig directly after thinking because I exercised, I can used this as a reason to pig out, ignoring what
a scale shows.
I gained a number of pounds the last few days with no exercise and eating lots. So back to the diet to see what race weight I can get to before Sundays race.
Yep, no PM workouts, other than getting to bed no later than 7 most of the time.
Yeah, this was the weird thing to me -- what I had called out. If I do 3 hours of easy endurance exercise, I wouldn't eat either immediately after, and I think what you're saying makes total sense, especially in light of the breakfast first. But if I do any kind of hard workout, running or biking, and especially if it was 90 minutes or more in length, I'd absolutely want (and recommend, as we went over above), a little somethin', and if I didn't eat directly afterwards, I'd feel flat over the next 24-36 hours until I got at least some of those calories back.
Now, in some cases (and by some people) this is recommended, and some folks disagree, it's fine. But all I was saying is, it's recommended to shift some of those breakfast or lunch calories to right after the session.
It occurs, too, that if I was to do a really hard session in the morning, I couldn't eat a full meal until after, but maybe Dave's got even more of a cast iron stomach than I do :-)
-E