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My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker)
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Former U.S. Air Force crypto-linguist Reality Leigh Winner, who became an NSA contractor, having taken on employment with a company that does much business with the spy agency, wins the title hands down.

And such a name for a person who appears not to be living in the real world, if her foibles in first downloading and then leaking classified intelligence to the online news outlet The Intercept are true.

Ms. Reality, who held a Top Secret (with Sensitive Compartmented Information) security clearance, was of course nabbed by the FBI shortly after her act (apparently, and foolishly, leaving behind a trail which even a blind squirrel could find) and tossed in clink until the entire mess could be sorted out.

While cooling her heels -- in contemplation of a star turn in the series "Orange is the New Black"? -- she then was caught coaching family members via jailhouse phone calls. Such calls are always monitored, by the way.

During the calls, government listeners noted that Ms. Winner -- giving the lie to her surname -- directed those family members, including her sister and her mother, to portray the now-jailed super-spy as some sort of scared, doe-eyed neophyte who didn't understand the nature of her actions and who, by gosh, was just trying to do the right thing (whatever that is).

Other utterances included that she intended to go before the judge and play the "white, pretty, and cute card" in order to get out of jail free. I'll leave the judgment on Ms. Winner's beauty, or lack thereof, to others, but I think it's safe to say that she is probably the dumbest entity in this sad tale (The Intercept, whose own foolishness in seeking to verify the document, by going to the NSA with it, runs a close second).

Prosecutors said in recorded jailhouse calls, she told her mother how to play her side of the story in the media -- as someone who was scared she'd disappear from an interrogation room in her Augusta home after Saturday's raid.
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Prosecutors said a phone call to her sister expressed Winner's confidence in how to play the court during her bond hearing.


"I'm pretty, white and cute," she allegedly told her sister. Prosecutors said Winner told her sister she would braid her hair and cry in court.


www.wsbtv.com/news/local/prosecutors-alleged-nsa-leaker-wanted-to-burn-the-white-house-down/531327849


There's a classic observation here:

When you are dead, you don't know that you are dead. It is difficult only for the others. It is the same when you are Stupid. ;-)



"Politics is just show business for ugly people."
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Re: My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker) [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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I always liked Picabo (sic?) Street. I think the story is she was she got to chose her own name at age 3. Up until then she was "little girl"

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Re: My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker) [len] [ In reply to ]
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That's great! :-)

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."
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Re: My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker) [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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When you are dead, you don't know that you are dead. It is difficult only for the others. It is the same when you are Stupid. ;-)

PERFECT!


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Re: My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker) [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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Well, she's definitely white.

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Re: My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker) [lunchbox] [ In reply to ]
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lunchbox wrote:
Well, she's definitely white.


So she always has that going for her, which is nice. ;-)

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."
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Re: My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker) [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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Re: My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker) [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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big kahuna wrote:
(apparently, and foolishly, leaving behind a trail which even a blind squirrel could find) and tossed in clink until the entire mess could be sorted out.

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doe-eyed neophyte


...though it sounds like you might think her excuse is plausible?
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Re: My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker) [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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"I'm pretty, white and cute," she allegedly told her sister. Prosecutors said Winner told her sister she would braid her hair and cry in court.

She got one out of three right

"I think I've cracked the code. double letters are cheaters except for perfect squares (a, d, i, p and y). So Leddy isn't a cheater... "
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Re: My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker) [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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i went to law school with her defense attorney. he kicked my ass in 1L mock trial. smart guy. i'm following this more out of personal interest than anything, but i hadn't heard she was such a dummy.
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Re: My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker) [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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big kahuna wrote:
During the calls, government listeners noted that Ms. Winner -- giving the lie to her surname -- directed those family members, including her sister and her mother, to portray the now-jailed super-spy as some sort of scared, doe-eyed neophyte who didn't understand the nature of her actions and who, by gosh, was just trying to do the right thing (whatever that is).

Speaking of leaks, isn't that in itself, a leak? I don't think "Government listeners" immediately make intercepted conversation public record, especially in a case with a pending prosecution?
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Re: My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker) [len] [ In reply to ]
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I think the story is she was she got to chose her own name at age 3. Up until then she was "little girl"

That right there justifies the daughter-on-dad violence she was charged with.

Not even kidding.









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Re: My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker) [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
big kahuna wrote:

During the calls, government listeners noted that Ms. Winner -- giving the lie to her surname -- directed those family members, including her sister and her mother, to portray the now-jailed super-spy as some sort of scared, doe-eyed neophyte who didn't understand the nature of her actions and who, by gosh, was just trying to do the right thing (whatever that is).


Speaking of leaks, isn't that in itself, a leak? I don't think "Government listeners" immediately make intercepted conversation public record, especially in a case with a pending prosecution?


Prosecutors made the disclosure during her bail hearing to convince the judge not to grant any bail, no matter how high it might have been. I think that one of the disclosures made when you're processed into a pre-trial confinement setting is that any calls you may make or receive are subject to monitoring.

Most street criminals understand that "the Man" is always listening in. Apparently, Reality Winner never got that memo, along with the one from her lawyer telling her to keep her mouth shut no matter what. ;-)

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."
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Re: My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker) [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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I saw an article this morning that said that she had an entry in her journal that she wanted to burn down the Whitehouse and references to terrorist groups. Since she had access to TS information, I think it will be a long time before she sees the outside of prison.
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Re: My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker) [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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I feel bad for this girl in kinda the same way I'd feel sorry for someone purchasing weed in Colorado and then getting busted for it in Oklahoma. Yeah, that person is stupid, but damn!, how can we have two states actually touching each other with such violently distinct laws and cultures.

Much like weed, Reality Winner's liberal anti-Americanism is protected and even encouraged in many arenas of today's life. We all know what our University life is like in this country. We all know what our internet media looks like. In this environment, it really comes as no surprise that we'd have young kids doing this kind of thing. It's sad when the adults can't get things straightened out such that the inexperienced and the stupid are so easily be tripped up in our dysfunction.
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Re: My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker) [SH] [ In reply to ]
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SH wrote:
I feel bad for this girl in kinda the same way I'd feel sorry for someone purchasing weed in Colorado and then getting busted for it in Oklahoma. Yeah, that person is stupid, but damn!, how can we have two states actually touching each other with such violently distinct laws and cultures.

Much like weed, Reality Winner's liberal anti-Americanism is protected and even encouraged in many arenas of today's life. We all know what our University life is like in this country. We all know what our internet media looks like. In this environment, it really comes as no surprise that we'd have young kids doing this kind of thing. It's sad when the adults can't get things straightened out such that the inexperienced and the stupid are so easily be tripped up in our dysfunction.

Rabid liberal anti-Americanism really isn't protected or encouraged in Texas (where she grew up) in the US Air Force (where she served) or in contractors with the NSA or other federal agencies (where she worked).

Not sure she can use that excuse.

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Re: My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker) [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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slowguy wrote:
SH wrote:
I feel bad for this girl in kinda the same way I'd feel sorry for someone purchasing weed in Colorado and then getting busted for it in Oklahoma. Yeah, that person is stupid, but damn!, how can we have two states actually touching each other with such violently distinct laws and cultures.

Much like weed, Reality Winner's liberal anti-Americanism is protected and even encouraged in many arenas of today's life. We all know what our University life is like in this country. We all know what our internet media looks like. In this environment, it really comes as no surprise that we'd have young kids doing this kind of thing. It's sad when the adults can't get things straightened out such that the inexperienced and the stupid are so easily be tripped up in our dysfunction.

Rabid liberal anti-Americanism really isn't protected or encouraged in Texas (where she grew up) in the US Air Force (where she served) or in contractors with the NSA or other federal agencies (where she worked).

Not sure she can use that excuse.


X2. The very best I can come up with is young, dumb, snowflake 👶. Those, however, are not the adjectives she used to describe herself.

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Re: My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker) [SH] [ In reply to ]
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SH wrote:
I feel bad for this girl in kinda the same way I'd feel sorry for someone purchasing weed in Colorado and then getting busted for it in Oklahoma. Yeah, that person is stupid, but damn!, how can we have two states actually touching each other with such violently distinct laws and cultures.

Much like weed, Reality Winner's liberal anti-Americanism is protected and even encouraged in many arenas of today's life. We all know what our University life is like in this country. We all know what our internet media looks like. In this environment, it really comes as no surprise that we'd have young kids doing this kind of thing. It's sad when the adults can't get things straightened out such that the inexperienced and the stupid are so easily be tripped up in our dysfunction.


From what I can glean from searching around, Ms. Winner's current employer, Pluribus International Corp. -- a contractor to various U.S. intelligence agencies, prevailed upon NSA and the government to grant her either an extension on the Top Secret (Sensitive Compartmented Information) clearance she had as cryptologic language analyst in the Air Force, or a rapidly expedited new clearance. Winner served in the Air Force from December, 2010 until late 2016, where she handled materials requiring a TS (SCI).

She had been employed by Pluribus -- owing to her linguist skills (she speaks the three major languages of Afghanistan) and her having attained a TS (SCI) clearance, something that can take a long time to attain, if starting from scratch with a new contractor-employee -- since January or February of this year. She'd been assigned to what is most likely an NSA facility in Georgia since February 13th. It certainly didn't take her long to run afoul of the law (in this regard, failing to safeguard classified materials, for starters -- though other charges will be added, no doubt), U.S. Code › Title 18 › Part I › Chapter 93 › § 1924.

During her service in the Air Force, which was characterized as honorable, Reality Winner achieved the enlisted rank of Senior Airman, paygrade E-4 (on an enlisted paygrade scale of E-1 to E-9). Equivalent rank in the Army and the Marine Corps would be Corporal (or Specialist, as well, in the Army) and Petty Officer Third Class in the U.S. Navy and U.S. Coast Guard. It is also a non-commissioned officer, or NCO, rank.

I'm a retired Navy officer who started his career as an enlisted man. I have no idea how constricted advancement opportunities are in the Air Force, but I would expect Winner to have attained the rank of Staff Sergeant (E-5) after six years of service, especially given the knowledge, skills and abilities she'd have had to demonstrate within her Air Force career field and the work that she had to have done as a cryptologic language analyst. She is actually no dummy, in other words, at least in her chosen profession.

What we have here is someone age 25 -- a fully formed adult by any definition -- and someone of proven smarts and abilities who probably thought that she was smarter than the average bear, as Dan/Slowguy might say. That she wasn't, sadly for her, might be attributed to either overweening confidence in her abilities or some defect in either her character or understanding of the importance of adhering to strict rules for the handling and dissemination of classified materials, or both.

Dealing with classified materials -- especially when one holds a Top Secret (SCI) security clearance -- is, or at least should be, a deadly serious business. People get killed by the enemy all the time when some of those materials leak out, never mind that their dissemination can be highly damaging to the United States and its allies. These are all things that the estimable Ms. Winner no doubt was aware of, I'm sure.

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Re: My Vote for Name of the Week: Reality Winner (NSA Contractor Leaker) [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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Rabid liberal anti-Americanism really isn't protected or encouraged in Texas (where she grew up) in the US Air Force (where she served) or in contractors with the NSA or other federal agencies (where she worked).

Growing up in Texas doesn't mean squat. The state has more conservatives than liberals, sure, but there are plenty of diehard liberals and liberal enclaves. Besides, my points are only common sense. What's the alternative? Do we believe Reality is a self taught liberal?

And she has no excuse. I'm just saying there are tons of kids -- yes, even in Texas -- with her political views. Those political views would receive less blowback on my FB page than any pro-Trump diatribes I'll tell you that. Yet, when she acts stupidly in accordance with those views...
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Rabid liberal anti-Americanism really isn't protected or encouraged in Texas (where she grew up) in the US Air Force (where she served) or in contractors with the NSA or other federal agencies (where she worked).

Growing up in Texas doesn't mean squat. The state has more conservatives than liberals, sure, but there are plenty of diehard liberals and liberal enclaves. Besides, my points are only common sense. What's the alternative? Do we believe Reality is a self taught liberal?

And she has no excuse. I'm just saying there are tons of kids -- yes, even in Texas -- with her political views. Those political views would receive less blowback on my FB page than any pro-Trump diatribes I'll tell you that. Yet, when she acts stupidly in accordance with those views...

I suppose we'll learn more about her motives in the future, but I would guess that she is less a rabid liberal America hater, and more of an anti-Trumper. America-haters generally don't choose to serve in the Air Force, and then generally don't choose to work for federal contractors after their service.

We don't know much about her yet, so maybe you'll turn out right, but it's certainly not the only reasonable explanation.

Slowguy

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slowguy wrote:
SH wrote:
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Rabid liberal anti-Americanism really isn't protected or encouraged in Texas (where she grew up) in the US Air Force (where she served) or in contractors with the NSA or other federal agencies (where she worked).


Growing up in Texas doesn't mean squat. The state has more conservatives than liberals, sure, but there are plenty of diehard liberals and liberal enclaves. Besides, my points are only common sense. What's the alternative? Do we believe Reality is a self taught liberal?

And she has no excuse. I'm just saying there are tons of kids -- yes, even in Texas -- with her political views. Those political views would receive less blowback on my FB page than any pro-Trump diatribes I'll tell you that. Yet, when she acts stupidly in accordance with those views...


I suppose we'll learn more about her motives in the future, but I would guess that she is less a rabid liberal America hater, and more of an anti-Trumper. America-haters generally don't choose to serve in the Air Force, and then generally don't choose to work for federal contractors after their service.

We don't know much about her yet, so maybe you'll turn out right, but it's certainly not the only reasonable explanation.

Yeah, I read a bit more about her. She may not turn out to be the posterchild for the point I was trying to make. She may just be too far out there to fit in any box.
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