Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman

Jun 4, 17 9:24

Post #1 of 24 (4686 views)

Just wondering why the technology for tracking races is terrible-to-non existent. It's a running joke amongst many of us (virtual spectators/athletes) that the tracker usually crashes during the age group run (head on over to social media and you'll see plenty of posts from frustrated spectators). This weekend is exceptionally bad. I've tried to track the races--Hawaii, Raleigh and Vic 70.3. If I click on Athlete Tracker, there are little-to-no timing splits for the athletes during the race. Because I know that Sportstats times these races, I know enough to jump over to their website to try and get some information (your average non competitor probably has no idea who times the races). I am having a hard time understanding why one can't click on the "Athlete Tracker" link or the "Live" link to any race and get up to the minute splits and placements. Would you or someone from your staff mind taking a few minutes to comment on why Ironman.com's technology is so (insert a number of descriptive words HERE). Thanks!

leslie myers
http://www.foodsensenow.com

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [Honey] [ In reply to ]

Jun 4, 17 9:37

Post #2 of 24 (4661 views)

2x ^

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [Honey] [ In reply to ]

Jun 4, 17 9:50

Post #3 of 24 (4644 views)

They just do not care.

I used the Myathlete GPS tracker in 2009 RAAMs to allow live tracking of both the solo rider, and support RV for 12 days, 24/7. I blew away the RAAMS technology then, but now, they have some great stuff.

I had used the MyAThlete tracker for years all over the world for family to track at Triathlons, Boston, etc. John had tons of folks use the product for years in WTC
races with a great website allowing all type of cross trackings.

So, there has been, and is, plenty of GPS technologies out there that really make it so much more interesting to watch an event.

I know now, I use the Glympse app on my cell phone to send to anyone that I am driving to their house, etc. Gives them the ability to see where I am in real time.
and how much longer it will take to get there.

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Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [Honey] [ In reply to ]

Jun 4, 17 9:57

Post #4 of 24 (4621 views)

FYI we have been working closely with Ironman, a brand new tracker is underway and will be available very soon.
In the meantime we do post live to Sportstats has well and provide predicted timed at next split and end of each leg.

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [Honey] [ In reply to ]

Jun 4, 17 10:25

Post #5 of 24 (4567 views)

Tracking is a nightmare. We travel to 8-10 races with many athlete per year. Yesterday at the 6 hour mark of the race in Hawaii Greg Welch announched tracking was available on sportstats.ca...well thanks 6 hours late. Tracking has been such a joke

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [sportstats] [ In reply to ]

Jun 4, 17 11:03

Post #6 of 24 (4528 views)

sportstats wrote:

FYI we have been working closely with Ironman, a brand new tracker is underway and will be available very soon.
In the meantime we do post live to Sportstats has well and provide predicted timed at next split and end of each leg.

Been available for like 10 years now.

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Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [sportstats] [ In reply to ]

Jun 4, 17 11:07

Post #7 of 24 (4516 views)

I noticed this for a few races.

For example, 70.3 Victoria today.

The tweets show finishers but the splits on IM live have no running stats yet.

They had finished the first split of the bike (per Twitter) but there was no swim yet on the stats page.

Just curious why the delay ?

thanks

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [marcag] [ In reply to ]

Jun 4, 17 11:26

Post #8 of 24 (4488 views)

You can go to https://www.sportstats.ca/...s.xhtml?raceid=44674

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [sportstats] [ In reply to ]

Jun 4, 17 15:28

Post #9 of 24 (4346 views)

sportstats wrote:

FYI we have been working closely with Ironman, a brand new tracker is underway and will be available very soon.
In the meantime we do post live to Sportstats has well and provide predicted timed at next split and end of each leg.

Thank you for your response. Do you have a hard date as I've heard "will be available soon" for a few months now? Triathlon season is in full swing and getting this linked correctly with the ironman.com website shouldn't be a daunting task. Given the complaints that I've seen on social media and heard otherwise, I don't think that the average spectator (racer or not) knows to go head over to Sportstats.com while the race is underway. When you do head over to sportstats.com, the racers are listed in their correct category BUT in no particular order--a viewer wouldn't have any idea of placement after the first two disciplines unless they crunched some numbers.
In the interim, could you suggest to the Powers That Be at ironman.com to provide some direction, a link to Sportstats.com and a note along the lines of "please be patient as a new and improved tracking system will be implemented soon" under each race's Athlete Tracker section?

leslie myers
http://www.foodsensenow.com

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [Honey] [ In reply to ]

Jun 4, 17 16:55

Post #10 of 24 (4289 views)

Actually on Sportstats.ca ...not .con if you hit the leaderboard tab you will get the realtime leaders based on the last mat.
You can easily filter by category to see who is leading each age group at that time
We estimate within 30 days the switch will happen.

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [sportstats] [ In reply to ]

Jun 4, 17 17:04

Post #11 of 24 (4269 views)

Ah okay--wasn't that apparent. Thanks for the update--and look forward to the changes

leslie myers
http://www.foodsensenow.com

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [sportstats] [ In reply to ]

Jun 4, 17 18:34

Post #12 of 24 (4147 views)

So how is this any better? We had athletes done for over 30 minutes today in Victoria before the even had 7.8k splits in the run?

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [sportstats] [ In reply to ]

Jun 4, 17 19:48

Post #13 of 24 (4066 views)

I'm always happy when I see that sportstats is doing the timing for a race because the tracking on your site is so much better.
That said, when I tried today while spectating Victoria 70.3, it was redirecting me over to the Ironman site

Team Every Man Jack

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [rj_tri] [ In reply to ]

Jul 16, 17 9:01

Post #14 of 24 (3595 views)

Is it really true or are my lying eyes deceiving me? I think there is a whole new tracker! Finally seems to be pulling correctly from Sportstats, AND there is a new mobile app! Checked IM Racine 70.3 and it looks to be working really well!

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [sportstats] [ In reply to ]

Jul 16, 17 9:07

Post #15 of 24 (3578 views)

sportstats wrote:

FYI we have been working closely with Ironman, a brand new tracker is underway and will be available very soon.
In the meantime we do post live to Sportstats has well and provide predicted timed at next split and end of each leg.

Have you looked into some of the tracking systems used in orienteering.
If you can track people live running off trails in a forest, how hard is it in triathlon?

Here you have two systems that works.
http://www.gpsseuranta.net/eindex.php
https://loggator.com/

Last edited by: Halvard: Jul 16, 17 9:33

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [fishybike] [ In reply to ]

Jul 16, 17 9:20

Post #16 of 24 (3560 views)

fishybike wrote:

Is it really true or are my lying eyes deceiving me? I think there is a whole new tracker! Finally seems to be pulling correctly from Sportstats, AND there is a new mobile app! Checked IM Racine 70.3 and it looks to be working really well!

I just checked Racine and UK thru ironman.com and got nothing....

leslie myers
http://www.foodsensenow.com

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [Halvard] [ In reply to ]

Jul 16, 17 9:33

Post #17 of 24 (3543 views)

New tracker is out today for Racine 70.3 , working pretty well and live right now

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [Honey] [ In reply to ]

Jul 16, 17 9:36

Post #18 of 24 (3533 views)

Honey wrote:

fishybike wrote:

Is it really true or are my lying eyes deceiving me? I think there is a whole new tracker! Finally seems to be pulling correctly from Sportstats, AND there is a new mobile app! Checked IM Racine 70.3 and it looks to be working really well!

I just checked Racine and UK thru ironman.com and got nothing....

I'm getting a new tracker on both mobile and full sites. Now the figure out the new format and whether it works any better...

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [Honey] [ In reply to ]

Jul 16, 17 9:50

Post #19 of 24 (3503 views)

I was tracking athletes in the inaugural Alaskaman and I thought RaceJoy did an amazing job. If the tracker works that well in the middle of Alaska, IM really has no excuse.

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [sportstats] [ In reply to ]

Jul 16, 17 12:13

Post #20 of 24 (3393 views)

sportstats wrote:

New tracker is out today for Racine 70.3 , working pretty well and live right now

It's beautiful, great job! Multiple athlete tracking and an actual mobile app will be huge for spectators and athletes.

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [SummitAK] [ In reply to ]

Jul 16, 17 12:16

Post #21 of 24 (3387 views)

SummitAK wrote:

Honey wrote:

fishybike wrote:

Is it really true or are my lying eyes deceiving me? I think there is a whole new tracker! Finally seems to be pulling correctly from Sportstats, AND there is a new mobile app! Checked IM Racine 70.3 and it looks to be working really well!

I just checked Racine and UK thru ironman.com and got nothing....

I'm getting a new tracker on both mobile and full sites. Now the figure out the new format and whether it works any better...

I'm still getting the old shitty tracker when I go to ironman.com on my laptop. What am I missing?

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [stevej] [ In reply to ]

Jul 16, 17 13:06

Post #22 of 24 (3329 views)

stevej wrote:

SummitAK wrote:

Honey wrote:

fishybike wrote:

Is it really true or are my lying eyes deceiving me? I think there is a whole new tracker! Finally seems to be pulling correctly from Sportstats, AND there is a new mobile app! Checked IM Racine 70.3 and it looks to be working really well!

I just checked Racine and UK thru ironman.com and got nothing....

I'm getting a new tracker on both mobile and full sites. Now the figure out the new format and whether it works any better...

I'm still getting the old shitty tracker when I go to ironman.com on my laptop. What am I missing?

I'm running Chrome on desktop and iOS. I just tied Internet Explorer on the desktop and the old tracker comes up then blanks out?!?

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [SummitAK] [ In reply to ]

Jul 16, 17 16:08

Post #23 of 24 (3220 views)

I don't know why it's showing the old one for some, but for IM Racine 70.3, it was the new tracker on the Ironman page (using mobile ironman webpage in chrome on an Android).

Either way, there's an app now on the Play Store, Ironman Track by Dilltree Inc which was advertised at the top, and uses the same data. I tracked a couple of random athletes and it stayed impressively current, with push notifications and predicted times.

Re: Athlete Tracking Question for Sylvan and CEOIronman [fishybike] [ In reply to ]

Jul 16, 17 16:39

Post #24 of 24 (3192 views)

Yes that is the correct new Ironman App, Racine was the first event on it. More events will be on it moving forward.
Its actually very fast, 1-2 seconds to push notification from crossing a timing mat.

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