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Nutrition/hydration for 7 hour bike race
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Planning for a 112 mile, what I estimate to be a 7-hour gravel bike race. Two stops are provided at 40 and 75 miles.

1st leg 40 miles ~ 2:30:00
2nd leg 34 miles ~ 2:08:00
3rd leg 37 miles ~ 2:18:00

Am I correct, endurance nutrition experts usually recommend between 180-300 calories per hour intake?

Hydration: It could be hot but again, I tend to be able to get by with less than many. Not sure what number to aim for here.

Scenario 1
3 insulated (2 framed mounted and 1 behind saddle), 20-ounce bottles with Scratch = 300 calories
Divided by 2 1/2 hours = 120 calories/hour TOO LOW

Scenario 2
Supplement the Scratch drink with a couple 100 calorie gels (200 extra calories) = 500 calories
Divided by 2 1/2 hours = 200 hour

When ingesting gels, aren't you supposed to drink water so you don't get your osmolality out of wack? If so, scenario #2 isn't going to work.

Scenario 3
Attach 4 bottles (2 behind the seat) = 400 calories
Divided by 2 1/2 hours = 160 calories/hour

Scenario 4
100 oz Camelbak w/Scratch = 500 calories
2 20 oz bottles w/Scratch = 200 calories
Divided by 2 1/2 hours = 280
This seems to have more room for error but man that seems like totting around a lot of fluid.

If I went with Scenario 2 or 3, maybe I could wolf down a 250 cal ClifBar or other solid food at the rest stops and chug some water thus making up for the deficient in calories and fluid.

Am I overlooking some other solution? Does the ~200 calorie/hour range sound about right for a lighter 150 lb athlete? I think I tend to be able to work with fewer calories than many people.

Yesterday I did a 4:40:00 ride on a nice cool 68 degree day, and the first 3 hours I fueled with only 1 bottle of Scratch. At 3 to 3 1/2 hours I was ready to eat one of the cows I passed in the pasture. At the 4:13:00 mark, I did in fact stop at a convenient store and commenced to do some binge eating before finishing the ride.

Geoff from Indy
http://www.tlcendurance.com
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Re: Nutrition/hydration for 7 hour bike race [geoffreydean] [ In reply to ]
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A lot of your caloric needs are really driven by you and what your body needs/wants. You really have to test it out as you go along and see what works for you. When I do 4-5 hour bike rides, I will drink 24oz of Gatorade Endurance every hour (I use the Camelbak Big Chill Podium bottles that hold 25oz), and also take in a full package of Cliff Bloks - this works out to around 360 calories per hour, but I am also 6'1" and 195lbs. My wife, who is 5'1'' and 120 pounds, would normally do 20oz of Gatorade Endurance and half a package of Cliff bloks, which works out to around 230 calories or so, but may be a little much for her even on the calorie side. I never use water as a hydration source for long workouts - it just doesn't work for me.

One thing I will mention is that you don't have any sort of salt planning - for a 7 hour race (in the heat as you add), you're going to be sweating a lot and losing a lot of salts. For long distance like this, you're going to need to know your sweat rate and your salt-depletion rate. While Skratch does have salts, it may not be enough for you and you would need to look into something like Gatorade Endurance or taking salt tabs along with whatever else you're doing.
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Re: Nutrition/hydration for 7 hour bike race [geoffreydean] [ In reply to ]
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Lots of good stuff here

http://blog.skratchlabs.com/blog/hydration-science-and-practice


I like to do natures bakery fig bars or some homemade food with Skratch labs. As Skratch explains gels are a slipperly slope. Temps for they day will have huge impact on it as well as other pacing (rate of digestion)
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Re: Nutrition/hydration for 7 hour bike race [redfox29] [ In reply to ]
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redfox29 wrote:
When I do 4-5 hour bike rides, I will drink 24oz of Gatorade Endurance every hour (I use the Camelbak Big Chill Podium bottles that hold 25oz), and also take in a full package of Cliff Bloks - this works out to around 360 calories per hour, but I am also 6'1" and 195lbs. .

I presume you carry 4 - 25 oz bottles?

5 x 24 oz Gatorade Endurance = 600 calories https://www.eatthismuch.com/...rance-formula,80639/
Full package of Clifbloks = 100 calories http://www.clifbar.com/...ews/bloks-strawberry
Total = 700/5 hours = 140/hour

Plus the Clifbloks without water will pull water out of the blood supply and into the gut. http://leanseekers.com/...Sports-Drink-Science

Geoff from Indy
http://www.tlcendurance.com
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