Just out of curiousity, is your saddle level to the ground?

Actually, nose up slightly and I've tried level and no, I don't do nose down. It's an issue of a descent amount of drop, which I'm comfortable with. But, the ISM PN3.0 does have a rounded front that contributes to the issue... but then it also seems to be eliminating seam issues I've had with other ISM saddles.

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I use the fizik saddle grip which helps a little. I also found, counterintuitively, that moving the saddle back helped keep me from sliding forward.

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I agree moving the saddle back typically helps - tried that last week and was back to riding on the very tip of the saddle, though.

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You could try a bit of surfboard wax in key spots.

My saddle is an actual leather covering. The grippiness is perfect. When coming off the swim, water flows into the leather - its great.

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Not a bad idea!

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Is this because you end up with a component of foot force pushing a bit forward on the pedals first (thus push body back) before you push down and back? Versus all down and back? To Milesthedog, if this is the case and you end up on the nose, your reach just got longer and you can't change the length of your torso and since the distance from aero pad to your hip bones is fixed (we only have so many vertebrae and inherently want to ride at a certain hip angle for a certain effort), you end up scooting forward on the saddle. So what about a shorter stem or of you can move you aero pads back

That might be a good explanation in my case. I have a Sitero, which is noseless, and I was probably sitting on the wrong part of it. Now that I'm more perched on the front, my thighs also clear more easily.

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I agree - I have shifted the front end back when moving the saddle back, so I think it's an issue of where over the bb I'm getting the most power out of my pedal stroke and where I'm comfortable hip-angle wise and with regard to hamstring and glut strain which occurs when moving the saddle back (and lowering saddle simultaneously)... no matter what, though, I've always tilted my saddles up a tad for tri and road, and for tri. Think the surf wax idea could be interesting to try. That said, my fit can always use adjusting.

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So, here's what I'm trying:

Some strips of Nexcare first aid tape: link here


And then I have Cramer anti slip spray on the way: link here

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 Did that help ?
I am really interesting in this saddle too for my trek SC
I tried ISM pn 1.0 and didn't like it . It was too narrow for me....

A bit off topic but, I have the modded Giro SLX shoes and the shiny material is extremely slippery with wet or sweaty feet when mounting or dismounting out the shoes. May try one of these products.

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Why not sand paper?

http://www.cyclingweekly.com/...nships-defeat-192829

The tape lasted for 10 miles and then peeled off. The Cramer spray is fun, but really doesn't stay on the saddle too long, but I'll tell you where it's golden - now that I'm using a squatty potty, I slip a bit more than normal, so I've been using the Cramer spray on the toilet seat - no, not serious at all.

The PN3.0 (have another thread going about my experience with it) is only wider than the PN1.0 in terms of the cut out. The rear really doesn't feel any wider. I am liking it and just need to help with my bike fit to truly take advantage of it.

To the poster looking to apply one of those sprays to the bottom of shoes - one thing I'll warn about is that most of those sprays do very poorly on surfaces that flex, so I would find something specifically made for the bottom of shoes.

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