See, you pointed it out. When I did the same thing about Obama, as Vegan described, I was attacked for how absurd my comparison was and felt the need to apologize and admit I'm wrong. I guess its OK when liberals say Trump is like Hitler.

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"In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway." T Durden

it depends on the comparison. i would vehemently disagree with comparing trump to hitler, depending on the comparison made.

same with obama.

i may also agree with it.

it depends on what was said.

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who's smarter than you're? i'm!

Bottom line is that Trump has engaged in some rhetoric, and that rhetoric is not actually that much different than what past presidents have engaged in- I'd say it's worse when it comes to the press, and not as bad when it comes to the judiciary. Be that as it may, it's just rhetoric, and his actions as president so far have been exemplary when it comes to respecting the checks and balances of our government and in not interfering with the press. That's a fact, and it's something most presidents can't claim. Many of them, including liberal icons like Obama and FDR, have taken actions that much worse in that regard than mere rhetoric, and I don't remember Hitler hysteria being a "reasonable" charge to level at them.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

I'm not sure what we are disagreeing about to be honest.

You must be new around here.

How about this? All free societies eventually devolve into authoritarianism as people learn they can select leaders that make promises of more and more free shit, and politicians learn they can accumulate power by promising free shit. Eventually so much free shit is handed out and the levers to hand it out concentrated that all it takes is one bad actor to come into power to turn the society from free to slave over night.

What you are describing is predictable, but a predictable byproduct of your demand for more stuff from the state in exchange for giving them more strings over your life.

I predict we are under absolute control by a technocratic bureaucracy in 200 years or less. Elections are nothing more than exercises designed to keep the public believing they are free. I guarantee today's society resembles nothing of what the founding fathers envisioned as free, even if you account for civil rights and the end of slavery which would actually promote a free society.

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"In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway." T Durden

This is my point. I'm all for people calling whoever hitler all they want, but because I got dressed down for my beliefs with regard to Obama, so shall they. If I couldn't call Obama hitler, they can't call trump hitler, at least not yet.

When he starts doing something that can't even compare to any other recent president, then we can. Something like turning the FEMA camps started under bush and completed under Obama into death camps with trains leading into them. Or policies that result in mass shootings and graves of illegal border crossers that go unaddressed.

All men of power have a certain narcissistic/psychopathic tendency, whether it is Hitler, Stalin, Saddam Hussein, FDR, Obama, or Trump. But once you start selectively comparing them, you render the term meaningless.

Just like when black civil rights leaders call everyone racist, it has lost its meaning. BLM has no meaning because they focus on the racism element that may exist in some instances, but largely absent in most.

By calling trump hitler or making regular comparisons to him, you are basically calling anybody who voted for him a useful idiot or racist themselves. Therefore you are insulting nearly half the country. That is the real consequence of such actions.

So keep doing it. Maybe if you say it enough people will believe it and the real consequences of that being the truth. Or, you look like an idiots.

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"In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway." T Durden

he hasn't exactly been a bastion of free speech and democracy since he's taken office and I think his words and actions should worry people.

His words worry me far less in regards to free speech and democracy than the actions of the past several presidents. (Though yes, he is encouraging a distrust of the media to an unreasonable degree among his supporters. At the risk of repeating myself, though, he's fanning a flame that's already been burning.)

What actions of his should I worry about?

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

The travel ban; even if you agree with the policy, which I do to a degree, the execution was piss-poor and caused all kinds of hassle for people coming and going from this country. Fielding the call from Taiwan, not a huge deal but a complete lack of diplomacy.

I think Trump has shown he doesn't think before he acts. Does that mean he's about to roll out some death camps? No, I think the Hitler comparisons are laughable. BUT as I said I think some of what he's done should have people worried, and he really needs to think things through and lean on advisors who'll preach just a touch more patience and diplomacy.

Oh and one more that doesn't worry me, but sure does piss me off: staying at Mar-a-lago despite the bad press he's been getting for it. That should piss everyone off who purports to be a fiscal conservative. Who gives a shit if he's gonna take a $1 salary if his security detail will cost $10's of millions more than past presidents? If he's at all concerned with the federal budget and deficit he hasn't shown it so far. Feels like a power move from a narcissist more than anything.

The travel ban; even if you agree with the policy, which I do to a degree, the execution was piss-poor and caused all kinds of hassle for people coming and going from this country.

I don't agree with the ban, and I agree that the execution was piss poor. But it's also something that (properly executed) is entirely within the president's lawful and proper authority. It doesn't threaten liberty, and it doesn't present me with concerns about freedom and democracy.

There are any number of things I find objectionable about Trump. I'm not asking for a list of those things. I'm asking for actions that he's committed that should give me reason to worry about liberty, and should make me concerned that he might be on his way to seizing dictatorial power.

Does he have ideas and proposals that I disagree with? Yep. Is he fantastically competent? Nope. Has he done anything that threatens freedom, or undermines our system of democracy? Nope.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."