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18-Wheeler Drafting: Lead 18-Wheeler saves 4.5% while at the front???
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Say the following article on 18-wheeler drafting. 4.5% for the lead 18-wheeler. Seems like an awful lot to me at 30-50 meters.

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Peloton has found that the lead truck saves 4.5% on fuel on average, and the tractor-trailer behind it saves 10%. That's a potential game-changer for an industry with tight profit margins and offers environmental benefits too


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Re: 18-Wheeler Drafting: Lead 18-Wheeler saves 4.5% while at the front??? [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Doesn't really surprise me. Think about it this way: as a truck or any blunt body moves forward through the air, air "pushes" it back and also "pulls/sucks" it back as well via the area of low pressure behind the body. So the tailing truck fills in the area of low pressure behind the truck. If you've ever seen one of the CFD simulations from Dailmer, Volvo, or any of the manufacturers making aerodynamic skirts, boat tails, etc you'd see that the area of low pressure behind a semi traveling 55mph is enormous.

BTW, it was 30-50 feet, not meters :)
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Re: 18-Wheeler Drafting: Lead 18-Wheeler saves 4.5% while at the front??? [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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Not sure how I feel about this. When I try to merge onto the highway and 4 trucks riding so close together offer me nowhere to get in. We already have these double tractor trailers where I live. If they are in front of you when you pull off the ramp they accelerate so slowly it is really scary seeing an 18 wheeler crawling up you backside and you have nowhere to go.

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Re: 18-Wheeler Drafting: Lead 18-Wheeler saves 4.5% while at the front??? [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
Say the following article on 18-wheeler drafting. 4.5% for the lead 18-wheeler. Seems like an awful lot to me at 30-50 meters.

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Peloton has found that the lead truck saves 4.5% on fuel on average, and the tractor-trailer behind it saves 10%. That's a potential game-changer for an industry with tight profit margins and offers environmental benefits too

https://vimeo.com/50872582
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Re: 18-Wheeler Drafting: Lead 18-Wheeler saves 4.5% while at the front??? [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Remember that fuel consumption to overcome air drag is exponential w/speed (and we're talking highway speeds here). Semis (esp.those w/o tail fairings) leave a pretty big wake, so helping to fill some of the gap helps a lot (even at 50m).



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Re: 18-Wheeler Drafting: Lead 18-Wheeler saves 4.5% while at the front??? [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Ready for something really wild?

A jet engine or rocket engine/motor throws stuff out the back to create thrust. Since the stuff is coming out as a mass with velocity (momentum), there's a momentum transfer = thrust. But the 'stuff' is coming out at a pressure different than local atmospheric pressure (typically), and that's called pressure drag. The pressure drag is in addition to the base drag (your truck's drag).

While creating thrust, a jet/rocket is creating drag...
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Re: 18-Wheeler Drafting: Lead 18-Wheeler saves 4.5% while at the front??? [Titanflexr] [ In reply to ]
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Titanflexr wrote:
Remember that fuel consumption to overcome air drag is exponential w/speed (and we're talking highway speeds here). Semis (esp.those w/o tail fairings) leave a pretty big wake, so helping to fill some of the gap helps a lot (even at 50m).


I can't see where it mentions the differences in these. I assume this is at various speeds? If so what are the speeds?


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Re: 18-Wheeler Drafting: Lead 18-Wheeler saves 4.5% while at the front??? [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
I can't see where it mentions the differences in these. I assume this is at various speeds? If so what are the speeds?

The difference is the fairing on the back of the truck. Top case has none, middle has a short fairing and the bottom has a longer one (which I've seen a handful of times, and I do relatively little highway driving).


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Re: 18-Wheeler Drafting: Lead 18-Wheeler saves 4.5% while at the front??? [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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In addition to the tail, look at the x-axis (it's not to scale) to see just how long the low pressure wake is.

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Re: 18-Wheeler Drafting: Lead 18-Wheeler saves 4.5% while at the front??? [Alaric83] [ In reply to ]
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Alaric83 wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:

I can't see where it mentions the differences in these. I assume this is at various speeds? If so what are the speeds?


The difference is the fairing on the back of the truck. Top case has none, middle has a short fairing and the bottom has a longer one (which I've seen a handful of times, and I do relatively little highway driving).

The moral of this story seems to be that you need to get butt cheek implants to make your trailing edge more aero and reduce the low pressure behind your butt. Come to think about it, Thierry Marie used something like that in the TdF Prologue circa mid 1980's


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Re: 18-Wheeler Drafting: Lead 18-Wheeler saves 4.5% while at the front??? [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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 Same things happens with bikes pace-lining. the front rider gets a benefit as well.

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