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Russia violates arms control treaty. Donald does what?
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Now things are about to get interesting:

WASHINGTON — Russia has secretly deployed a new cruise missile that American officials say violates a landmark arms control treaty, posing a major test for President Trump as his administration is facing a crisis over its ties to Moscow.

The new Russian missile deployment also comes as the Trump administration is struggling to fill key policy positions at the State Department and the Pentagon — and to settle on a permanent replacement for Michael T. Flynn, the national security adviser who resigned late Monday. Mr. Flynn stepped down after it was revealed that he had misled the vice president and other officials over conversations with Moscow’s ambassador to Washington.

The ground-launched cruise missile at the center of American concerns is one that the Obama administration said in 2014 had been tested in violation of a 1987 treaty that bans American and Russian intermediate-range missiles based on land.

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Re: Russia violates arms control treaty. Donald does what? [jkca1] [ In reply to ]
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Go on a Twitter rant directed at a yet-to-be-determined department store and/or entertainment figure?
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Re: Russia violates arms control treaty. Donald does what? [jkca1] [ In reply to ]
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Did you question what Obama did about it in 2014?

The ground-launched cruise missile at the center of American concerns is one that the Obama administration said in 2014 had been tested in violation of a 1987 treaty that bans American and Russian intermediate-range missiles based on land.

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Re: Russia violates arms control treaty. Donald does what? [WelshinPhilly] [ In reply to ]
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It looks like the Russians won the cold war afterall.

Amazing!!!
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Re: Russia violates arms control treaty. Donald does what? [Velocibuddha] [ In reply to ]
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Every now and then somebody has a name that I think is pretty spiffy. Velocibuddha, I like that.


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Re: Russia violates arms control treaty. Donald does what? [justgeorge] [ In reply to ]
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justgeorge wrote:
Did you question what Obama did about it in 2014?

The ground-launched cruise missile at the center of American concerns is one that the Obama administration said in 2014 had been tested in violation of a 1987 treaty that bans American and Russian intermediate-range missiles based on land.

You mean did he question the economic sanctions, travel bans and asset freezes enacted on Russia in 2014? I think what he is suggesting is that Trump won't do anything. Because, you know, that "Rouge" National Security Adviser told the Russians as much...
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Re: Russia violates arms control treaty. Donald does what? [justgeorge] [ In reply to ]
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justgeorge wrote:
Did you question what Obama did about it in 2014?

The ground-launched cruise missile at the center of American concerns is one that the Obama administration said in 2014 had been tested in violation of a 1987 treaty that bans American and Russian intermediate-range missiles based on land.

Do you understand the difference between "test" and "deploy"?

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Re: Russia violates arms control treaty. Donald does what? [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Do you understand the difference between "test" and "deploy"?

They both violate the very same treaty.

I don't remember if we did anything of substance about the 2014 violation other than send Putin a letter complaining about it. I could be wrong about that. Anyone know for sure?









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Re: Russia violates arms control treaty. Donald does what? [justgeorge] [ In reply to ]
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Did you question what Obama did about it in 2014?

So you have no comment about the incident that happened now or is it more important to go back 3 years to make sure there was exactly the same concern so you can rest easy?

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Re: Russia violates arms control treaty. Donald does what? [justgeorge] [ In reply to ]
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justgeorge wrote:
Did you question what Obama did about it in 2014?

The ground-launched cruise missile at the center of American concerns is one that the Obama administration said in 2014 had been tested in violation of a 1987 treaty that bans American and Russian intermediate-range missiles based on land.

Did you?

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Re: Russia violates arms control treaty. Donald does what? [vitus979] [ In reply to ]
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vitus979 wrote:

Do you understand the difference between "test" and "deploy"?

They both violate the very same treaty.

I don't remember if we did anything of substance about the 2014 violation other than send Putin a letter complaining about it. I could be wrong about that. Anyone know for sure?

It's kind of nice that Trump can skip the letter BS and just bring it up to Putin in his weekly briefing.
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Re: Russia violates arms control treaty. Donald does what? [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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klehner wrote:
justgeorge wrote:
Did you question what Obama did about it in 2014?

The ground-launched cruise missile at the center of American concerns is one that the Obama administration said in 2014 had been tested in violation of a 1987 treaty that bans American and Russian intermediate-range missiles based on land.

Do you understand the difference between "test" and "deploy"?
Yep. And whatever Obama did or didn't do in 2014 obviously had no effect.

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Re: Russia violates arms control treaty. Donald does what? [TheRef65] [ In reply to ]
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TheRef65 wrote:
justgeorge wrote:
Did you question what Obama did about it in 2014?

The ground-launched cruise missile at the center of American concerns is one that the Obama administration said in 2014 had been tested in violation of a 1987 treaty that bans American and Russian intermediate-range missiles based on land.

Did you?
Nope. Don't even remember hearing about it.

Did you?

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Re: Russia violates arms control treaty. Donald does what? [justgeorge] [ In reply to ]
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justgeorge wrote:
klehner wrote:
justgeorge wrote:
Did you question what Obama did about it in 2014?

The ground-launched cruise missile at the center of American concerns is one that the Obama administration said in 2014 had been tested in violation of a 1987 treaty that bans American and Russian intermediate-range missiles based on land.

Do you understand the difference between "test" and "deploy"?
Yep. And whatever Obama did or didn't do in 2014 obviously had no effect.

Well that's difficult to say really. Maybe if the administration then hadn't formally protested the treaty violation, Russia would have fielded this system much earlier. Maybe if the administration had declared that we'd no longer honor the treaty and we're going to field our own missiles, Russia would have been pleased with that since it would have given them an easy way out of a treaty they didn't want to be part of. Maybe, since Pres Obama protested the testing in 2014, and Sec Clinton was seen as a continuation of his policies, Russia might not have fielded the system right now. Maybe they're testing to see what Pres Trump will do. Maybe, maybe, maybe,.....

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Re: Russia violates arms control treaty. Donald does what? [jkca1] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like they sent a spy ship near a US sub base. They were just waving to say hi right? I expect a tweet saying how friendly those Russian sailors are.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/02/15/russian-spy-ship-spotted-near-us/97939010/
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Re: Russia violates arms control treaty. Donald does what? [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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There are always maybes, but the reasonable conclusion is that Obama's strongly worded letter about the treaty violation was ultimately useless.

Not blaming Obama, and not intending this as a "but Obama" defense. But the fact is that we don't have much leverage here, and not a whole lot of reason to take any serious action. Which is the same situation Obama was in with the initial treaty violation, as well as the annexation of Crimea. There's just not much to be done about it.

All that leaves is Trump's superior deal making skills to rely on . . .








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Re: Russia violates arms control treaty. Donald does what? [FishyJoe] [ In reply to ]
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FishyJoe wrote:
Looks like they sent a spy ship near a US sub base. They were just waving to say hi right? I expect a tweet saying how friendly those Russian sailors are.

http://www.usatoday.com/...ed-near-us/97939010/

If you are going to post a link, would you mind taking the time to make it a hot link?

It's really not that hard. If you don't know, ask, I'll be happy to share.

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