Only an hour commute from the central valley to Fremont?

We have a sales guy who lives out there and his commute is more like 2 hours.

Elon should have reduced that guy to two hours a day.

I would not want to work for Musk. 50-70 hours a week and not that great of pay. I'm sure he hates unions as it would mean actually having to compensate workers for work done.

So what you're saying is workers are putting in hours and not getting paid? I find that surprising and an easy issue for an employee to file a grievance for.

We have really tough employment laws in California. If Musk is doing anything illegal they can file a complaint and will win big. If he isn't doing anything illegal than his employees have it pretty good.

The employement laws here (and the resulting cost to employ someone) is the sole reason why I haven't hired another person for my company. I just can't afford it.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

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Why is this guy's commute even part of the discussion? Or his age? Or how many children he has? Or what time his shift starts? I'm really struggling to understand this dude's need for a union based off of anything posted in any one of those articles.

Also, was he passing out union flyers on company time? That's not so clear but it looks like it.

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I hear this "I commute x hours, so I should get...."

You should move.

My brother use to commute 90 minutes each way for work. He always said it was because his living expenses were much cheaper where he lived. He didn't really seem to factor in 15 hours a week driving, fuel and maintenance costs, road food, etc.

Just fucking move!

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I do most of the hiring for the company I work for. We have around 120 employees at my location. Ex union workers are by far the biggest fucking pain in the ass that we have.

A salaried employee gets paid the same amount no matter how many hours they work and it is perfectly legal.

Of course he does. Unions shift the power from the owner to the workers. He's the owner.

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lol. Right? Shocking news! Business owner opposes unionization efforts!

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

So does he lose his status as Liberal darling?

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No and neither does Warren Buffet who shut down our local tomato processing plant and shipped 1000+ jobs to a cheaper place. And owns all sorts of railroads which ship oil with far more risk than pipelines which environmentalists go bananas about everytime someone tries to build one. Why don't environmentalists stop trains at the border? Sometimes the world does not make sense. I have no problem opposing a pit mine that would pollute a trout stream for example.

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They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

And if the unions get carried away, the owners simply shift the whole plants elsewhere.

Australia is about to totally close all car manufacturing. Toyota, Ford and Holden (GM) are closing their plants.
Not one simple reason for it, but when forklift drivers are making $100K +, you know you're on borrowed time.

How long can Musk hold out in Cali till its no longer viable and moves the factory elsewhere.
Wouldn't surprise me if the land he bought in NV for the Gigafactory has enough space to re-house vehicle production.

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From the article, it sounds like this guy is hourly. I am well aware of how salaried employees are compensated.