cartsman wrote:
I was expecting this post to be accompanied by a picture of some guy riding with clip-ons higher than his seat and his back at about 60 degrees ;-)
I'm certainly quicker in the drops than on clip-ons, for the simple reason that all else being equal the drops position gets my body a lot lower. I.e. if my road bike is fit well, I'd have a horizontal stem with no spacers, and a drops position that allows me to get my back horizontal when I'm down there with bent arms. Stick a pair of clip-ons on top of that bar and I'm significantly higher, the only way I could get horizontal would be have a really stretched out position which is going to compromise my power, or dropping my bars using a negative stem, which would screw up my hoods and drops position.
Problem with the drops position is that your weight is supported muscularly instead of skeletally which is the case with aerobars. So it leads to a lot of tension in your back, shoulder and arm muscles which either means it's not sustainable for a long bike leg, or at least if you can sustain it you're not going to be in great shape to run.
Assuming you have bent arms on the drops it is very possible that you can get your back lower using the drops than on clip-ons given the same bar height (i.e., assuming the hoods remain in the same position for both cases).
However the section in bold above makes one huge and, I believe invalid, assumption: You are assumping that back height/angle is the defining factor in aerodynamics and even state that it's this "simple". It's not.
Width is potentially just as important or more important than height. It will depend on the shape of the individual, the choice of positions, the clothing, the speed, etc, but it's absolutely feasible for a higher narrower position to be faster than a lower wider one.
I have broad shoulders, they are still broad on the extensions but there is a significant difference. The extensions also bring my entire arms within a much smaller volume. I'm absolutely certain that I can raise my back a little, pull my elbows in and go faster.
Why do you think Cancellara and others use that forearms draped over the tops position? They would be as low in the position mentioned in previous posts where you grasp the top of the brakes and hold your forearm horizontal but the draped position also narrows the shoulders and brings in the arms like an extension and thus reduces drag.