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Re: Kudos to Coke and Anheuser-Busch [patf] [ In reply to ]
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patf wrote:
aarondb4 wrote:

I dunno about all that. The blue collar worker could appreciate the American Dream aspect of the commercial of a guy coming from nothing to build the largest beer empire in the world.

Don't be the white guy apologist equivalent of BarryP. :)


I don't think the average blue collar work would have a problem with that commercial in most years. And as was mentioned it was made in October so the intent was not to be a political message for the liberals. But if the average blue collar worker thought he was being played with for a political issue, then I think that is when the offense would be drawn.

Kind of like, I like the coke commercial, but not if they were trying to be inentionally political. Then sorry coke you just lost me as a customer. I don't buy a soda and want a political lecture.

I don't believe I saw the Coke commercial but they have been doing the same diversity stuff for a long time.

The Audi commercial was blatantly political. Was surprised and turned off by that. Stick to making unreliable cars Audi.
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Re: Kudos to Coke and Anheuser-Busch [aarondb4] [ In reply to ]
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http://www.dailywire.com/...t-makes-hank-berrien

"When we account for all the various factors that go into pay, women at Audi are on par with their male counterparts."

Ha ha ha ha ha !

Not that reality matters. Audi declared themselves an ally to the cause, that's what counts.








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Re: Kudos to Coke and Anheuser-Busch [Guffaw] [ In reply to ]
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How about an anti-kudos to Proctor and Gamble trying to make Mr. Clean "sexy" and making America uncomfortable for the rest of the night?
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Re: Kudos to Coke and Anheuser-Busch [champy] [ In reply to ]
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champy wrote:
How about an anti-kudos to Proctor and Gamble trying to make Mr. Clean "sexy" and making America uncomfortable for the rest of the night?

Agreed. Both I &the Mrs. were creeped out by that one.
P&G should have gone all in and overlayed the commercial to cheesy 70's porn soundtrack, and at the end have Mr. Clean urn into Ron Jeremy.

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Re: Kudos to Coke and Anheuser-Busch [Guffaw] [ In reply to ]
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Or T-Mobile (or was it sprint) with the 50-shades of Verizon commercials. I don't know if i should be more disturbed those commercials were approved, or that my 12 y/o son seemed to get it, thus no need for me to explain it.

not being a prude, just not sure bondage/S&M commercials in prime time are quite being watched by the target audience.

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Re: Kudos to Coke and Anheuser-Busch [veganerd] [ In reply to ]
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veganerd wrote:
jwbeuk wrote:
Really? Who do you think drinks Budweiser? Are you really that out of touch with the common man in this country? If your views are indicative of the new Democratic Party I expect the blue collar vote is gone forever.

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Kudos unless you're a shareholder and they've breached their fiduciary duty to you.


oh please. most of the voting population is on their side.


college kids drink cheap shitty beer. college kids tend to be more progressive. im guessing the company does focus groups and know who their base is.

College kids buy whatever is selling for 2 dollars in a 34 ounce chalice. There isn't brand loyalty among them. If it comes down to 2.00 for that chalice in Milwaukee's Best or 2.25 for bud light, they may go for the budlight because it is a little better than the Beast. But lets day that bud is a dollar more, or even 50 cents more. Some will go with the beast because getting their buzz on outweighs any benefit. But lets now compare apples to apples. Miller light vs Bud light. if Bud is 2.75 and miller is 2.50 for a 34 oz chalice, people college students will go with miller.

This also assumes that they are so early in their drinking careers that they haven't figured out binge drinking on AB products leaves you more hungover. I always preferred the taste of AB products over miller or coors, but sheeiiiit man, it would leave my head hurting the next day if I binged on 12 or more. Miller and coors didn't do that to me.

Oh, and at one time I was a beer snob. In my sophomore year, I was that jackass with Grolch, Sam Adams or the craft beers from the special shop before it was a thing. At minimum, I was drinking an import like Heineken. And guess what? I was super liberal than. It wasn't until my consumption went from 6 to 12 or 24 that price (and hangover potential) became a thing.


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Re: Kudos to Coke and Anheuser-Busch [aarondb4] [ In reply to ]
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aarondb4 wrote:
cerveloguy wrote:
"I dunno about all that. The blue collar worker could appreciate the American Dream aspect of the commercial of a guy coming from nothing to build the largest beer empire in the world."

You'd certainly think so. I can't think of a more stereotypical blue collar product than a Bud six pack. But of course a snobbish liberal like me would naturally prefer a microbrew craft beer.


That's okay, AB has a habit of buying up small local brewers, they have plenty of options for everyone.

10 Barrel Brewing was started in Bend OR, they opened a shop in Boise ID and all the hipsters rejoiced. They sold out to AB a few years later, there was some outcry, but the place is still packed every weekend.

Good point. They bought up a bunch of the local favorites here in Phoenix.


"In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway." T Durden
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Re: Kudos to Coke and Anheuser-Busch [vitus979] [ In reply to ]
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vitus979 wrote:
No comments about the 84 Lumber ad? Multi-billion dollar American corporation openly applauding and encouraging illegal immigration.

It's their customer base. Have you ever been to 84 Lumber?
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Re: Kudos to Coke and Anheuser-Busch [j p o] [ In reply to ]
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j p o wrote:
TheForge wrote:


But the masses that do drink Bud and other products under that banner are precisely the people who are more likely to take offense to this commercial. With equally cheap alternatives, brand loyalty makes or breaks a beer like bud. To take such a stance, in my opinion was stupid in the short term.


I drink Bud, always.

Is it the Beechwood aging?
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Re: Kudos to Coke and Anheuser-Busch [Old Hickory] [ In reply to ]
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Somebody told me that. Makes it more acidic.


"In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway." T Durden
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Re: Kudos to Coke and Anheuser-Busch [scorpio516] [ In reply to ]
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scorpio516 wrote:
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I fully expect them to stop selling in the US in 5 years.


Why? They are the 4th largest car seller in the US, just barely getting beat by Toyota.

The Guila continues to underwhelm in sales.

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The Alfa Romeo Giulia was supposed to herald the triumphant return of the legendary Italian brand to the American market. Unfortunately, Alfa’s plan to shake up the luxury car game isn’t working out.

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According to GoodCarBadCar.net, Alfa has only managed to sell 2,482 Giulia sedans (including the Quadrifoglio) in 2017.

Suffer Well.
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Re: Kudos to Coke and Anheuser-Busch [scorpio516] [ In reply to ]
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The Giulia continues to do what expected from a Fiat, Chrysler, or any Italian car company.

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Heading down I-87, the cruise control was set at 64 miles per hour, and there were no other cars on the road in front of us. Everything should have been completely smooth sailing.
That’s when the breakdown started. The lights came on, the BONGS started BONGING, and the throttle was barely working. I’d give it a light brush, and the car would go into conniption fits, its gearbox bogging and its motor unable to provide acceleration.
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The fact is, Alfa Romeo’s comeback car has been plagued with problems, and these are increasingly well-documented by the journalists who have been testing them.
Consumer Reports’ Alfa has been to the dealer service bay three times since they bought it. The UK’s Sunday Times had three Giulias crap out on them. Forums abound with reliability issues. Pistonheads had an Alfa Giulia break down in the middle of a test against a Mercedes and a BMW. Motor Trend’s Alfa was completely defeated by a normal driveway. Car and Driver said that their Giulia suffered “foibles.”
And perhaps most damning of all, Road & Track’s Sam Smith said sister mag Car and Driver actually has “an in-house code reader all but earmarked for Alfas, and every test Giulia they’ve seen has had problems.”

Suffer Well.
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Re: Kudos to Coke and Anheuser-Busch [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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jmh wrote:
The Giulia continues to do what expected from a Fiat, Chrysler, or any Italian car company.

Fiat-Chrysler has actually improved quite a bit over the past few decades. They're just about average in reliablity, for the most part. Production has been modernized, etc.

The Panda-based cars seem to be reasonably reliable.

Also it's hard to figure out what brands are "Italian" now, what with Lamborghini being part of Volkswagen Group, etc.. Fiat being so global.

Ferrari is still pure Italian, at least .(and reasonably reliable for that brand segment).
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Re: Kudos to Coke and Anheuser-Busch [trail] [ In reply to ]
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JD Power would disagree


Dodge - 32 of 32
Jeep- 28/32
Fiat - 26/32
Chrysler 22/32
RAM 9/32.

Alfa might help Dodge out of last.

Suffer Well.
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Re: Kudos to Coke and Anheuser-Busch [jmh] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, but all cars are pretty reliable now. I'm talking vs 30 years ago when Fiat was a disaster.
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