mv2005 wrote:
burnman wrote:
mv2005 wrote:
The people this happened to are dead. The people who did this are dead. How many generations are going to blame stuff like this as reasons why they can't pull their finger out of their ass and get on with life?
Present day people can't be held liable for actions of generations past. Let's keep pointing fingers at the Germans whilst we are at it.
Your privilege has clearly gone unchecked!
I'm just tired of the whole "oppressed" thing. Yes certain races were oppressed in years gone by. Most aren't now. There aren't those limitations that existed previously. Blacks can achieve greatness in the same light as whites if they want it and work for it. Be it business, politics, sport or arts. For a so-called racist country like the USA, the likes of Serena Williams, Lebron, Will Smith, Dr Dre and Obama have done alright for themselves in a "white man's world". Indeed the lions share of the billions paid in sports like basketball and football appears to go to blacks. Pretty rich for these types to be crying poor.
Current generations need to stop citing sins of a bygone era as reasons they can't get ahead today.
First note that I am NOT in favor of reparations for slavery.
But the argument is that slavery deprived slaves and their ancestors of wealth while enriching other races. That deprivation of wealth ripples down through history and continues to be a factor in the poverty seen in African-American communities.
I think this ignores the massive waves of immigration that came after the civil war and the fact that a huge number of those immigrants brought zero wealth with them.
It would make more sense to argue for reparations for the institutionalized discrimination seen well into the 2nd half of the 20th century. Still not persuasive to me for financial reparations but makes more sense than slavery reparations.
But is also hard to ignore that in my lifetime there was widespread discrimination and that the National Guard was called out to keep blacks who are still of working age out of some schools. If this sort of thing had happened to Trump and his father for instance, would there have been millions of dollars to loan and bequeath?
Not sure what the answer is, but it is something that still has affects today.
I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.