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Governor Moonbeam's legacy
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It's time for California to just fall into the ocean...

"California Gov. Jerry Brown on Saturday signed legislation that requires certain entertainment sites, such as IMDb, to remove – or not post in the first place – an actor’s age or birthday upon request."

“Gov. Jerry Brown today stood with thousands of film and television professionals and concerned Californians who urged him to sign AB 1687, a California law that will help prevent age discrimination in film and television casting and hiring,” said SAG-AFTRA President Gabrielle Carteris.

I propose that every time anyone in the entertainment industry is mentioned in this forum it becomes mandatory to include their age & the worst possible picture you can find of that person. By the way Jerry Brown is 78.





"The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do."
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Re: Governor Moonbeam's legacy [jkca1] [ In reply to ]
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Really?

This is what you post about about Brown?

BTW, since the Dems have been running everything in CA there has been zero problems or corruption whatsoever (according to the press).

While the cat's away the mice wil play.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Governor Moonbeam's legacy [jkca1] [ In reply to ]
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Funny - how this is such an important issue for our legislature. It just shows the quid pro quo love fest between our liberal legislator and Hollywood have no bounds.


Cherry picked gifts like these only tend to happen to the ones who support the liberal agenda-

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Re: Governor Moonbeam's legacy [jkca1] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Governor Moonbeam's legacy [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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Duffy wrote:
Really?

This is what you post about about Brown?

BTW, since the Dems have been running everything in CA there has been zero problems or corruption whatsoever (according to the press).

While the cat's away the mice wil play.

I had to read the article twice to make sure it wasn't from the Onion.

"The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do."
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Re: Governor Moonbeam's legacy [jkca1] [ In reply to ]
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One wonders how California will enforce that kind of legislation, given that IMDB is Headquartered in Seattle.
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Re: Governor Moonbeam's legacy [KChen086] [ In reply to ]
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KChen086 wrote:
One wonders how California will enforce that kind of legislation, given that IMDB is Headquartered in Seattle.

Doesn't matter.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Governor Moonbeam's legacy [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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Duffy wrote:
KChen086 wrote:
One wonders how California will enforce that kind of legislation, given that IMDB is Headquartered in Seattle.


Doesn't matter.

So what would be the jurisdictional basis? Or enforcement mechanism?
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Re: Governor Moonbeam's legacy [KChen086] [ In reply to ]
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KChen086 wrote:
Duffy wrote:
KChen086 wrote:
One wonders how California will enforce that kind of legislation, given that IMDB is Headquartered in Seattle.


Doesn't matter.

So what would be the jurisdictional basis? Or enforcement mechanism?

Doesn't matter.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Governor Moonbeam's legacy [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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Duffy wrote:
KChen086 wrote:
Duffy wrote:
KChen086 wrote:
One wonders how California will enforce that kind of legislation, given that IMDB is Headquartered in Seattle.


Doesn't matter.


So what would be the jurisdictional basis? Or enforcement mechanism?


Doesn't matter.

Thanks for your useful insight.
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Re: Governor Moonbeam's legacy [KChen086] [ In reply to ]
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KChen086 wrote:
Duffy wrote:
KChen086 wrote:
Duffy wrote:
KChen086 wrote:
One wonders how California will enforce that kind of legislation, given that IMDB is Headquartered in Seattle.


Doesn't matter.


So what would be the jurisdictional basis? Or enforcement mechanism?


Doesn't matter.


Thanks for your useful insight.


The fact that I have to explain this, repeatedly is part of the problem.

Here's what's going on nationwide, but particularly in CA.

Laws are passed that are not "enforceable" or purposefully not enforced (happens with existing law as well). An example is the fact that it is illegal in the state of CA for private citizens to collect rain water. Governor Moonbean signed an order to not enforce that laws so as to "allow" property owners to collect rain water. The wasn't repealed or temporarily put on hold. It is still illegal to collect rain water.

Why is this distinction made? It ensures that there is massive amounts of non-compliance. There are literally thousands of laws that are rarely enforced. It basically guarantees that you and I are pretty much always in violation of some law or regulation.

I work in compliance of heavily regualted industry. It is impossible for my clients to be in total compliance. There are contradicting regulations depending on which enforcement agency you are dealing with. You can be in compliance with one agency but not one of the others.

So why is this?

In this country we cannot fine or imprison our political enemies based on their opinions. We can, however, find virtually anyone to be in violation of some law or regulation. Your unpopular opinion becomes the catalyst for an "investigation" into "wrongdoing". You may never be officially found guilty of anything but that doesn't matter.

The process itself is the punishment and usually your reputation is damaged in that process.

I have a client (and this happens all the time) who had a fuel spill on their property due to an employee's mistake (an alcoholic employee who could not be fired due to the ADA).

The Sate when back through their records and found "numerous violations". All of their violations were equipment failures found during yearly inspections of said equipment. For example we are required to test line leak detectors yearly. Only a certified person can test these. Facility owners cannot know of a non functioning detector without testing. We are not allowed to "pre-test" the equipment before a system certification in some jurisdictions.

We find a non-working detector and we replace it on the spot. Still, a non-working leak detector is a "violation" and gets written up by the inspector as such. The facility owner did nothing wrong.

Years (and several failed, and repaired, components) later our client has an accident and they tarnished in the news (and by The State) for having "numerous violations".

In the case of this IMDB thing, maybe the CEO of the company pissed someone off (who is politically connected) and now will likely be violating CA law in some way. The State could make things difficult for him/her in many ways...

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
Last edited by: Duffy: Sep 26, 16 5:53
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Re: Governor Moonbeam's legacy [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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That's actually some awesome analysis. Thanks for posting that.
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Re: Governor Moonbeam's legacy [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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Also appreciated that explanation
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Re: Governor Moonbeam's legacy [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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Laws are passed that are not "enforceable" or purposefully not enforced (happens with existing law as well). An example is the fact that it is illegal in the state of CA for private citizens to collect rain water....

Been saying this for years and have experienced it myself several times. Most notably was a rather significant amount of money spent on equipment to store, well not store, to collect any possibly spillage of some industrial barrels we had. This equipment was an EPA level "Requirement". A few months later we had a fire inspection where the fire inspector said "You can't have those those are a fire hazard". When we told them why we had them he essentially said you can keep them if you want but if a fire ever happens you will be fined for having them and possibly sued for being in violation if any damages occur because of them.

Soooo....get rid of them and get fined by OSHA/EPA et el, keep them and get fined by the fire department.

The perfect example is your car. There are so many automobile regs that more then likely every vehicle that rolls off the production line is in one or more level of violation. I once got a warning for a license plate holder, put on by the dealer, that was "illegal". (Yes I realize the factor did not put the plate holder on).

Taxes are another one. Not only do you have semi conflicting laws but most certainly unclear laws where you "Think" you are following the rule of the law but when someone else interprets it you are in violation.

It's a cluster fuck that gives rise to putting the very civilians that laws are supposed to protect in constant danger and gives undo power to those making the laws...you know exactly the opposite of how it's suppose to work.

~Matt

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Re: Governor Moonbeam's legacy [MJuric] [ In reply to ]
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We have a particular piece of equipment we deal with (vapor pressure sensor for gasoline tanks) that has to be installed one way for fire code and another for Air Resourses Board Exectutive Order.

It's a sensor that monitors tank pressure and is tied into a vapor return line below a shear valve (Air Board) or above it (fire). We schedule the air inspection then move the sensor for the fire inspection (then move it back) every year.

Both agencies are aware of the issue (and probably know about us moving it yearly).

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Governor Moonbeam's legacy [MJuric] [ In reply to ]
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Yep You know something is wrong with our laws and legal system. When you need to pay a guy $450.00 an hour to decipher them.
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Re: Governor Moonbeam's legacy [getcereal] [ In reply to ]
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Yep You know something is wrong with our laws and legal system. When you need to pay a guy $450.00 an hour to decipher them.

Not only decipher them but to take 15 pages to essentially say what you and I could say in a couple sentences :-)

~Matt

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