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Re: Are there any Democrats here who can defend this? [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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OK, pretty fine distinction. Kind of like Wilson going to Niger as a result of a request from Chenney's office.
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Re: Are there any Democrats here who can defend this? [Brick] [ In reply to ]
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blah blah blah...the Republicans are jerks...no they aren't, the Democrats are...blah blah blah...

The real story here is that the blacks think that a black man having conservative values is selling out. IMO, neither party has much to be proud about w/regards to the status of the poor in this country, and if poor minorities are waiting for the government to solve their problems, they are in for a long wait.

I don't think either party has the stones to take steps necessary to truly combat poverty.
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Re: Are there any Democrats here who can defend this? [kdw] [ In reply to ]
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This article said - "Delegate Salima Siler Marriott, a black Baltimore Democrat, said Mr. Steele invites comparisons to a slave who loves his cruel master or a cookie that is black on the outside and white inside because his conservative political philosophy is, in her view, anti-black."

I really do not understand what is wrong with this if these people have a valid argument that this guys politics are anti-black.

if you were a member of a historically subjugated group and one of the members of that group was, in your mind, helping those who do the subjugating would you not react angrily and in a less than 100 percent rational way? I say its likely.
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Re: Are there any Democrats here who can defend this? [SOUP!] [ In reply to ]
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I'm sure conservative blacks don't feel they are subjugating other blacks. It's a stupid comparison.

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Re: Are there any Democrats here who can defend this? [jhc] [ In reply to ]
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whether or not the guy thinks he's an uncle tom is meaningless if others think he is.

it's all right for people to have different opinions and even be angry about them
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Re: Are there any Democrats here who can defend this? [SOUP!] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe I think you're the next Hitler, do you think it's all right for me to have that opinion? If you were a public figure, would you like me making those statements to the press?



There's nothing to be gained by stupid comments like that, and this notion that "every black person should be on the far left politically or else they are slaves sucking up to their masters" is stupid, wrong, and offensive, no matter if some "others" believe it to be so.

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Re: Are there any Democrats here who can defend this? [SOUP!] [ In reply to ]
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"I really do not understand what is wrong with this if these people have a valid argument that this guys politics are anti-black."

I take it that you believe that the Democratic party's policies have been historically "pro-black". Bang up job they have been doing so far. Again, if you think that either party has been doing a great job helping the plight of the poor or the minorities in this country, you haven't been paying attention.
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Re: Are there any Democrats here who can defend this? [kdw] [ In reply to ]
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you nutsos can't think straight can you? i haven't said a word about the democrats doing better than the republicans in race politics yet that's what you come at me with?

if a black group thinks another black group is acting like a load of race traitors who the hell says its the business of a bunch of white triathletes?

fact is none of us know a damned thing about why they feel this way about the man, you just jump to all kinds of dumbass conclusions, throw dumb junk like "what if i called you hiter?" around and act like mental midgets.

we don't know, we have no authority to make an intelligent assessment of what's going on here
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Re: Are there any Democrats here who can defend this? [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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racism

n 1: the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races 2: discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race [syn: racialism, racial discrimination]


Black on black hate is just simple hatered of those who dare to not follow in lock step. That makes a lot of black leaders dick heads not racist.

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Re: Are there any Democrats here who can defend this? [Mr. Tibbs] [ In reply to ]
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How about this one out of the dictionary on my desk:



Racism "A doctrine that inherent differencesamong the various humand races determine cultural or invidual achievement."



I don't buy the argument that a Black can't be racist against other blacks or say racist things about other blacks.

Slowguy

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Re: Are there any Democrats here who can defend this? [SOUP!] [ In reply to ]
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fact is none of us know a damned thing about why they feel this way about the man, you just jump to all kinds of dumbass conclusions, throw dumb junk like "what if i called you hiter?" around and act like mental midgets.



Saying: XXX is not good for black people is one thing. Saying XXX is a slave cudlding up with his master is another, and it's offensive.

Saying XXX is not good for Jewish people is once thing. Saying XXX is Hitler is annother, and it's offensive.

Do you comprehend how hyperbolic comparisons to highly sensitive topics are offensive and unneccesary?

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Re: Are there any Democrats here who can defend this? [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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"I see no problem with black Democrats criticising a black Republican because his policy stances are seen as antithetical to the good of the black community."

Really?

So only black democrats know what should "seen" as "good" for the "black community"?

What about listening to diverse opinions? Or are you not allowed to have an opinion if you are a black conservative?


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Re: Are there any Democrats here who can defend this? [mojozenmaster] [ In reply to ]
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you're allowed to have an opinion, and you're also allowed to be criticized or even derided for having them
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Re: Are there any Democrats here who can defend this? [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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My point still stands as the truth. "differencesamong the various humand races" it still refers to diffrent races. Blacks are the same race so a black can not be racist against other blacks because they are the same race.

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Re: Are there any Democrats here who can defend this? [Mr. Tibbs] [ In reply to ]
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"My point still stands as the truth"

Well, glad to know you are the arbiter of what's the truth and what's not.



""differencesamong the various humand races" it still refers to diffrent races. Blacks are the same race so a black can not be racist against other blacks because they are the same race. "

Huh? That doesn't make any sense. Are you really trying to say if blacks practice policies or believe in ideas that set blacks apart based solely on race, it isn't racism? You're wrong. Anyone can be a racist, and that racism can be directed at any group, including their own.

Slowguy

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Re: Are there any Democrats here who can defend this? [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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big·ot Audio pronunciation of "bigot" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bgt)
n.

One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.


This is the words you are looking for. The Democrats are being bigots against people of their own race if those people choose not to march lock step with them.

Racism is te belief your race is superoir then other diffrent races as your defintion pointed out bigotry is just hatered of a diffrent group such as black Republicans vs. black Democrats.

So yes I am the arbiter of truth on this one because you are wrong. I have proven how you are wrong using outside sources and provided you with the proper word for you to use in this case. If you choose to be a big boy and see you missed used a word, great if not , oh well.

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