did someone fit you in this actual position or did you make change yourself.

the quick answer

your aerobars orientation need to be tilted up so your forwarm are level with the ground. They are pointing down at the moment.

then, the simple way will be to get a longer stem, take off 1 or 2 spacer and move the saddles forward a little and rising it .

doing all this simultaneously will keep your comfort and power up there but will allow you to be more planted on the bike...more solid without falling forward. it will reduce stress in upper shoulders and also make you more aero.

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Couple questions:
1. which saddle is that? And uncomfortable how? Saddle too hard? Pressure in the wrong spots? Nose of saddle uncomfortable?
2. Are you arms level or pointed down?
3. How does toe-down feel?
4. Any knee, hip, back pain?

I didn't know "toe down" was a theory--that sounds weird to me. You should pedal how you pedal, and not adjust to anything (IMO). I honestly can't say if your saddle is high, but it's definitely not low. Maybe someone else has a keener eye.

Just based on the video it looks like you're uncomfortable on the saddle, so your hips are rotated back. Meanwhile, sounds like you're holding the bars in a way that you're pulling your body forward (maybe to relieve the pressure on your bum and bits), which is really putting you on an uncomfortable part of the seat. But depending on how you answer the above questions, that theory could be bunk. -J

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jonnyo said what I was thinking. Basically 1) Get more forward. Way more. 2) Get lower. 3) Forearms level. I'd start by getting a longer stem, and slamming it.

No expert, but I've hade troubles with forward sliding as well.

Except from what's been pointed out by others already, I see two things that helped me.

- Make sure you have skeletal support on the armpads, meaning the weight should be put on the elbow and not the underarm. I know people prefer this differently, but that worked for me.

- Tried an ism saddle or similair to help you tilt your pelvis more?

And some swedish special tips:

-Tänk på var du lägger vikten när man gör plankan. Då blir det på armbågsspetsen och inte underarmarna. Jag tycker man ska ha samma stöd av tempopinnarna. Ska man köra ironman kan man inte spänna underarmarna i 5-6 timmar.

This is my fit i got, I lowered my seat just a little.

I just noticed in the video that it really look like the bars are tilted down. They actually are leveled looking right att the bike.
Will try to raise them a little. If I raise them more my neck gets tens.

Will get a longer stem, The orginal is rather short 100mm (just measured).

Thanks for you're input.

1. Its an Fizik Tritone, unused a feels a little hard. Pressure is right spot not geting numb or anything. I did one race last year and had no problem, just got the bike week before . May rideing to comfy during the winter on an another (road) saddle.

2. They should be leveled, but just noticed that they look going bit downwards.

3. Not naturally.

4. No pain, on top of my knee but think it might be from running.

This bike fit wants me to point my toes down as much as possible. Not useing any power att all pulling upp. Just pushing sya from 2-6 o'clock.
I'comeing from Moutainbikeing where haveing a good circle pedaling was important. so feel strange.

My first Bikefit was aiming for heeldown. So bit confused and my wallet is a lot thinner thats the only safe thing i know, hehe

Thanks for your input.

Nickwhite & Inikaklet

Thanks for input.

Will get a longer stem and slam it.

Mr Kakel, I notised now that my forearms arent where they should be.
180km like this and i would probaly end up cramping in my shoulders.

Great advice with "plankan" =)

Thanks

If bars themselves are level, then arms will be angled down, like yours are. That's because you're resting on top of the armrests at the elbow, but you're holding the extensions out by the end. So the extensions themselves have to be angled up a bit for forearms to be level.

FWIW, my experience (I'm a fitter) has also been that arms angled down leads to sliding off the front of the seat.

the aerobar extension are not what matter in term of been horizontal... it s your forarms.

so...a horistontal extension will give a downtilt forarms. a uptilf aerobar will give a horizontal/level forwarms.

As for producing stifness in the neck...that s because you need more reach as was mention in the first post. your longer stem will fix this issue and you will find yourself a lot more relax on the bike.

As for hell down or toes down....dont think about it....pedal as natrually as you can and never think about it again. there is very little to not technic to pedaling a TT bike.....

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Then my first comments stand. Angle bars up a bit. And pedaling should just be comfortable. Over engaging your calves by toe down pedaling makes no sense. Adding stress is pointless.

I think you're sitting like a road bike. Others have chimed in on fixing some of that.

Sorry the bike fitters took your money. Been there. J

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Thanx to everyone!
Really appreciate it. My body is not made for TT, hehe

Sometimes you just look at some small points and miss the big ones.

I found a 110mm Stem (have 100mm now) and change it tonight.
Raise the angle of bars a little, and maybe forward the saddle little.
I think the hight should be ok if im going for the natural bike possition and skipping the toe down.

There is a local TT race tomorrow might giv it a try with new setup :)

Had the same problem with sliding forward, since if did an almost good job on dialing myself in, the fitter tilted my adamo road up in the front and angled my extensions up a little more.
When workin on the saddle with a special pad to measure the pressure of the whole area it was kinda weird, when I felt more pressure in the front it was way more even and put than when the nose was tilted down.

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It looks like you have absolutely zero forward rotation with your pelvis. I wouldn't worry about your arms until you get the saddle and pelvis fixed.

Looking at you on that bike, I might argue that an Adamo/noseless saddle set further back might allow you to roll your hips forward thus putting you back in an upright position.

Keep in mind, the advice you get here is only as good as the pictures and video you submit.

A good video on a trainer in your race kit with race gear/watts would be ideal. I would take everything people have advised here with a grain of salt until you can load up some better video.

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Yeah, i'm just looking for advice / which direction to move.
I have so much problems getting IT right on the bike. And the bike fits dident do any good.
Next time i think about a biuke fit i'd rather donate money to this forum :).

I got a movie from riding my trainer tonight. Going around my ftp in effort.
Maybe not best form, been working with The Swedish Duathlon Championship all weekend = no sleep and walking around all days.

I have put on longer stem 10mm, and moved my sadle forward 5mm, and droped spacer down to 5mm from 10.

Here is video1:

Video2 (little low angel):


Thanks everyone for putting in time helping =)

Super crammed up.

Chance that bike might be too small. Need more extension so you can actually rotate those hips forward. I still think you are missing that. Saddle height will be easier to determine once you get your hips opened up.

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USAT Level 2 - Short & Long Course
Ironman Certified
Brevard, NC

I could move the arm pads one step forward, do you think that might help.
Just thinking of what I could do with what i got. I could get a 120mm stem also.

This feelt much better in my shoulders and upp backpart than the first video (rideing ouside).

I would definitely look for a 120-130. Rolling forward more is going to extend your upper body but you can't do that crammed up.
I will say, there are good fitters out there.

If you lived in Greenville SC I could tell you exactly who to see and who to stay away from. Talk to your friends who have had good fit experiences.

100 miles with 7800 feet of climbing and I comfortably spent a lot of time in the pads.

I'm not a fitter. Just my opinions

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USAT Level 2 - Short & Long Course
Ironman Certified
Brevard, NC

Forget "level." Try tilting your arms up:

http://www.ero-sports.com/...r-more-comfort-speed

Thanks for taking your time.

I will try with a 120mm and se how it feels. 110mm felt alot better.

Even if i'm not getting a perfekt fit, I have a lot better one now, happy for that. =)

I just went to one of the most respected fitters in Sweden.
Did not get what I expected. So hard to choose one. A lot of people recommend the last one i tried.

Is it mostly roadies suggesting this fitter?

My experience, they are road bike fitters who try to do tri fits and are clueless. Or just not as skilled as someone who specializes in the tri side

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USAT Level 2 - Short & Long Course
Ironman Certified
Brevard, NC