You're going to ride both and try to return one for a full refund to be re-sold as new? Or am I misunderstanding you?

Yes, just for a 20 mile ride or so.

Never heard of Eagle Wheels before. Even their Amazon page looks new, like last few weeks new. Do they have a website? What other research did you do on them?

I have no idea how old they are, there are so many carbon wheel companies, I had no idea. They had good reviews on Amazon. The website is http://www.eaglebicycles.com.

These guys have some of the worst cycling ad copy I've seen since SpeedX:

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The Eagle 60/88 wheel-set is meant for one thing, SPEED! It is all aero all the time. When you are looking to get the most go for each pedal stroke the Eagle 60/88 is exactly what the doctor ordered. These wheels are designed, engineered, and tested to slice the wind in any application; time trials, triathlons, road racing or gran fondo rides. With our Wide Aero U-Shape design we achieve outstanding aerodynamics, lateral stiffness and the ultimate smooth ride you desire. Like all of our wheel-sets, these wheels are designed around the 25mm tire for the ultimate in ride quality and overall performance. Designed as a complete package we achieve the best possible performance with a near seamless transition between tire and rim for dramatically increased aerodynamic results.

LATERALLY STIFF AND VERTICALLY COMPLIANT for your next GRAN FONDO

Those reviews are all fake. You've been had.

Looks like you already bought some but get some Flo wheels. Plenty are selling on classifieds now for cheap. Great customer service and fast wheels. Better than generic carbon for the same price.

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That's what I'm thinking. I can't find any talk online, reviews, bitching, praise, sponsorship, etc... You would expect there would be SOMETHING from a company that says on its website "Eagle is one of the longest running American bicycle brands and wheel company's with a long-standing history in race technology that comes from years of experience."


Hopefully the OP gets his wheels and they are of quality build, but something seems fishy to me about this company.

Just to provide some clarity here: The Williams 58 is actually a 56mm Chinese made rim, and the 85 is really an 86mm Chinese made rim. It took some advanced interwebs spelunking, but I was able to verify that eventually.

That's not to say they are bad. I have both of those rims purchased on ebay direct from China and I am very happy with them for training purposes. I bought them because they match pretty closely to my Knight wheels in terms of profile so I can run carbon brake pads all of the time.

Yes it's a Taiwanese company from which Williams essentially white labels...much like Felt and Novatec. But they are better than Novatec and the hubs are excellent (and have that great industry nine type hum to them). The brake modulation is exceptional--the best of any China carbons I've tried, and I've tried a bunch. They aren't Zipp NSW brake track good, but very good--about as good as Reynolds. They are also as fast or faster than 808s per the raw data from A2. They've posted that data, rather than some bogus marketing "white paper" on their site. Flos may very well be the better buy at the $1200 price point, but Williams is likely a close second

Like I said, I own them and they are fantastic even as every day wheels. But, I paid $550 or so for the models with CX-Ray spokes and R13 hubs which are also pretty nice.

I would buy Flo 60 CC's as my next purchase due to their exceptional low yaw performance, and value.

By the way, even though Williams is selling a Taiwanese company's product, they are an American distributor, and as a result has insurance and an obligation to American safety standards. I recently had a freak carbon fiber fork failure while mountain biking. I suffered serious and VERY expensive injuries. The bike was white labeled China carbon, which I purchased that way for the warranty recourse, even as I could have bought the same frame for half the price from deng fu chang or whatever. I have an attorney, and the distribution company and its insurer will likely be forced to make me whole by the American judicial system. Not to mention there could be serious PR consequences if I and another injured party join forces to shout from the roof tops about this. If you have a safety issue God forbid with these no name EBay products, you have no options whatsoever. I like to think of paying double as my own insurance policy.

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Chris Thornham
Co-Founder And Previous Owner Of FLO Cycling