mitsubishi just admitted they've been cheating emissions tests for 25 years . . .

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All of them?

People have said for years that you can expect to actually get fewer mpg than listed on the window sticker, now we know why.

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

The reason that your mileage will never match the tests is because the tests are done at slower than normal speeds.

Here's a highway test. Average speed = 48.3 MPH (77 kph)



Who drives that slowly on the highway? Nobody, that's who.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Here are the guidelines for the highway test in Canada. Note the temperature and the fact that the engine is warmed up at the time of the test. Everything is basically set for ideal conditions. And it's done at a slow speed.

Highway Test Parameters
Test Cell Temperature20°-30°C
Total time12 minutes, 45 seconds
Distance16.5 km
Top Speed97 km/h
Average Speed78 km/h
Maximum acceleration5.2 km/h per second
Number of stops0
Idling time0
Engine start*Warm

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

0-100k in 19.2 seconds!

Actually that sounds about right for some of the people getting on the freeway around these parts.

That's only 1 of the 5 cycles. The High Speed / Quick Acceleration test was added to try and adjust for the not real world conditions of the previous 2-cycles testing.... But I agree, all ideal, engine warm, etc... definitely not reflective...

http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/energy/efficiency/transportation/cars-light-trucks/buying/7495

Big difference between real world emissions not matching up to test emissions because the tests aren't representative of real world driving, and real world emissions not matching up to test emissions because the manufacturer installed software deliberately designed to exploit how the tests are run.

Of course there is, I never said otherwise. I was responding to the point raised about the testing...

I wish they had these measures in American. I cannot make any sense of this.