You know how to tempt a dude to drive up to PHX. As much as I'd love to join you I've got to pass this weekend.

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I live in Scottsdale, but it's January and I don't do hard rides in January. That's a good route for it though.

I'll be doing another one next weekend but not sure if it's Saturday or Sunday (in-laws visiting).

Base miles, I'm just not a believer in LSD (drugs or training). Power range of 225-325 watts--not easy but no intensity.

I could have been interested until I read only 325 watts. That's like zone 0.5 for some of us. :)

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How about only on the flats where it's easy to sit on? That's the top limit, figure more like a total of 50 minutes around 280 and 10(ish) bumping 325.

The last time I was there with a Lifetime group we had a blast chasing (being dragged by) Lewis Elliott. Is he still local?

Yep. Lewis is still a local legend. And a great guy!

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If you are on a road bike, you should jump on the BOS train for at least some of it.

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Why don't you believe in LSD training ? Hard efforts below threshold are not effective according to these studies but I could be confused by what you mean by How do you define "not easy but no intensity"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8897392/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/...articles/PMC3912323/

I've thought about that but want to be able to control pace for now. I suspect parts would be too easy and others potentially too hard. I want to keep a good steady burn.

Note to self....never ride with CS....and for damn sure don;t go with him on his "intensity" days.

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Aw please, you'd have no problem on this ride. It's my base staple, and fav training ride. 1st hour, no prob. 2nd puts some heat on legs. 3rd gets a little grippy and 4th, well, that's the money maker. It's not like high intensity intervals where your eyes cross, just a grinder that puts a little hair on chest.

As long as I didn't need to pull.....

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Haha having ridden with him a few times, it's not so bad sitting on his wheel on the flats. I mean it's not so good either.

Now climbing, well I think he put 5-6 miles on me going up Lemmon

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does CS ride with tattered kit, steel bike, and old school Ray Bans?

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There are a few threads out there about base approach, this is one: http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...post=4394586#4394586

I advocate tubeless wheels with fattest tires possible (why lose weight when you can get bigger tires?) and disk brakes; ST heresy. Though I like the Ray Ban idea.

Btw, DD is being dramatic--he was sick that day but still gutted out ride

haha, maybe it was CS in disguise!

That also was a painful day

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bit late to this thread.... like over a year, but going to be in Scottsdale for a week. any must do loops while I am in town ? probably can escape for 3hrs max. any info appreciated. staying at camelback resort.