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Schaivo autopsy findings released
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I guess Bill Frisk's diagnosis was wrong.



(06-15) 08:40 PDT Largo, Fla. (AP) --



An autopsy released Wednesday found no evidence to contradict the diagnosis that Terri Schiavo was in a persistent vegetative state after her 1990 collapse, backing up her husband's contention that she would not have recovered if she was given additional therapy as her parents requested.



"There's nothing in her autopsy report that is inconsistent with a persistent vegetative state," said Dr. Stephen J. Nelson, a medical examiner who assisted in the autopsy.



Pinellas-Pasco Medical Examiner Jon Thogmartin, who led the autopsy team, concluded that there was no evidence of strangulation or other trauma leading to her collapse. He also said she did not appear to have suffered a heart attack and there was no evidence that she was given harmful drugs or other substances prior to her death.



Thogmartin said that Schiavo's brain was about half of its expected size when she died March 31 in a Pinellas Park hospice, 13 days after her feeding tube was removed in a wrenching right-to-die dispute that engulfed the courts, Congress and the White House and divided the country.



He said she would not have been able to eat or drink if she had been given food by mouth as her parents' requested.



"Removal of her feeding tube would have resulted in her death whether she was fed or hydrated by mouth or not," Thogmartin told reporters.

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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [MattinSF] [ In reply to ]
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Dude, I saw the video, she was fine. That autopsy is part of the culture of death.



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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [jhc] [ In reply to ]
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Actually I'm planning to mail a videotape of a pimple on my ass to Bill Frist to see if he can diagnose melanoma or not.


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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [trio_jeepy] [ In reply to ]
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careful, you might pop out some frontal grey matter.

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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [MattinSF] [ In reply to ]
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Duh. It was a 'no-brainer'. Sorry
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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [MattinSF] [ In reply to ]
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Screw you and your "science" I FELT her spirit tell me she would get better. If I could have only prayed for her longer.

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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [Mr. Tibbs] [ In reply to ]
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"science" is a "theory"

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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [jhc] [ In reply to ]
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"Science" is the devils work. What can observation; experimentation and logic tell me that a 2000-year-old text and my FEELINGS can't?

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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [MattinSF] [ In reply to ]
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I can't wait to hear the excuses for the folks on this board who claimed otherwise. Or maybe we'll never heard from them again in this thread at least.
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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [SWoo] [ In reply to ]
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Autopsies are just a liberal, secular conspiracy.
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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [MattinSF] [ In reply to ]
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You aren't paing attention you god hater. The autopsy did not prove that her husband did not try to kill her for her money. How did a woman with a severe eating disorder all of a sudden just get that sick?

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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [MattinSF] [ In reply to ]
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The Bush response to the autopsy was classic. They never let the facts stand in the way of a good sound bite.
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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [SWoo] [ In reply to ]
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What did he say?

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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [Mr. Tibbs] [ In reply to ]
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http://www.whotv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3478775

Spokesman Scott McClellan says the president opposed the removal of her feeding tube because he thinks Americans should "stand on the side of defending ... life."
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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [SWoo] [ In reply to ]
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Spokesman Scott McClellan says the president opposed the removal of her feeding tube because he thinks Americans should "stand on the side of defending ... life."
What he really said was

Americans should "stand on the side of defending the opportunity for us politicians to capitalize on other people's private affairs if it will help us get votes from the religious right, I've been doing it all my life."

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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [MattinSF] [ In reply to ]
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Seriously, it's fine if people disagree. The problem is that for the most part, you dont hear too many people saying:

"Well, I know Terri was in a PVS and wouldnt get better, and I can see Michaels need to move on, but I just cant make myself support removing the feeding tube because I'm a softie/the Catholic position is that she should be kept on life support/etc..." Fine - agree to disagree.

What you get is 1) delusion (Terri would have gotten better, she wasnt that bad, let us feed her by mouth, she's not even in a PVs, look she's smiling at me) 2) delusion + hostility (Michael is a money-grubbing adulterating evil medical terrorist, I hope he gets run over by a bus) or 3) irritating soundbytes/talking points (I prefer to support life) - yeah sure you do George and no one else supports life but the far right. It's that kind of shit that is really irritaing.

Maybe the majority of the pro-keeping-Terri-alive folks were the silent, reasonable type. But the wackjobs really got the lion's share of the press.

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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [MattinSF] [ In reply to ]
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"I guess Bill Frisk's diagnosis was wrong"

Well I suppose thats what happens when you try to diagnose someone from a videotape...I am glad he is not my doctor.
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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [Mr. Tibbs] [ In reply to ]
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How did a woman with a severe eating disorder all of a sudden just get that sick?


um,,, perhaps because she had a severe eating disorder... not a mild one, but a severe one...

Actually your statement proves your not really reading all the evidence ...... from a Yahoo news story "He [the coroner] said there was no proof she suffered from an eating disorder such as bulimia, which can disrupt the body chemistry with lethal effect. "

So there's no proof that she an eating disorder ... but there's also no proof - NONE - of abuse by Michael...
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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [ChiTownJack] [ In reply to ]
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Wow Poco chill out there. Up intil today even the family was talking eating problems.

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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [ChiTownJack] [ In reply to ]
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He was being sarcastic....

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Re: Schaivo autopsy findings released [SWoo] [ In reply to ]
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The silence from Brian286, Vitus, Army & the rest of the red kool-aid drinkers has been deafening.

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