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Are we in a Christian Jihad?
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"The towers are gone now, reduced to bloody rubble, along with all hopes for Peace in Our Time, in the United States or any other country. Make no mistake about it: We are At War now -- with somebody -- and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives.

It will be a Religious War, a sort of Christian Jihad, fueled by religious hatred and led by merciless fanatics on both sides. It will be guerilla warfare on a global scale, with no front lines and no identifiable enemy. Osama bin Laden may be a primitive "figurehead" -- or even dead, for all we know -- but whoever put those All-American jet planes loaded with All-American fuel into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon did it with chilling precision and accuracy. The second one was a dead-on bullseye. Straight into the middle of the skyscraper.

Nothing -- even George Bush's $350 billion "Star Wars" missile defense system -- could have prevented Tuesday's attack, and it cost next to nothing to pull off. Fewer than 20 unarmed Suicide soldiers from some apparently primitive country somewhere on the other side of the world took out the World Trade Center and half the Pentagon with three quick and costless strikes on one day. The efficiency of it was terrifying.

We are going to punish somebody for this attack, but just who or what will be blown to smithereens for it is hard to say. Maybe Afghanistan, maybe Pakistan or Iraq, or possibly all three at once. Who knows? Not even the Generals in what remains of the Pentagon or the New York papers calling for WAR seem to know who did it or where to look for them.

This is going to be a very expensive war, and Victory is not guaranteed -- for anyone, and certainly not for anyone as baffled as George W. Bush. All he knows is that his father started the war a long time ago, and that he, the goofy child-President, has been chosen by Fate and the global Oil industry to finish it Now. He will declare a National Security Emergency and clamp down Hard on Everybody, no matter where they live or why. If the guilty won't hold up their hands and confess, he and the Generals will ferret them out by force.

Good luck. He is in for a profoundly difficult job -- armed as he is with no credible Military Intelligence, no witnesses and only the ghost of Bin Laden to blame for the tragedy."

Hunter S. Thompson
September 12, 2001

I was rereading some of Hunter's work last night and I read the above quote which I had not seen before. Some good insight for the day after 9/11 don't you think? Does anyone view the Iraqi war as a religious war? I like to think this war is really about terrorists that happen to be Moslem and not about "our" faith vs theirs.

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Re: Are we in a Christian Jihad? [jkca1] [ In reply to ]
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Some good insight for the day after 9/11 don't you think? No.

Does anyone view the Iraqi war as a religious war? No.








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Re: Are we in a Christian Jihad? [jkca1] [ In reply to ]
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Just because you like to think something really doesn't make it true.
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Re: Are we in a Christian Jihad? [jkca1] [ In reply to ]
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Crusade, we call them crusades not Jihads.

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Re: Are we in a Christian Jihad? [jkca1] [ In reply to ]
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Jihad does not actually mean "holy war"; what it actually roughly translates into is "fervent desire" or "most fervent desire".

I am not going to participate in a debate here, just want to clarify the meaning and bastardisation (by all sides of the argument) of that word.
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Re: Are we in a Christian Jihad? [bunnyman] [ In reply to ]
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Not to pick a fight or anything ;-), but jihad means many things including "armed struggle" and it can apply to defensive stuggles against any corrupting influences, and also to expansive struggles to spread the public order of islam. It can also be applied to internal sturggles with a Muslims faith and with the forces that would lead him away from the true path.

I agree the word has been hijacked by both sides of the conflict.

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Re: Are we in a Christian Jihad? [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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Naw, you aren't. It can mean those things, as well. Struggle is another word in the meaning, and you were correct in pointing that out. One can have a jihad with their weight, a jihad in their family, and they are not necessarily having a war.

Just like many Hebrew, greek, and aramaic words, it can mean much more within the context.
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Re: Are we in a Christian Jihad? [bunnyman] [ In reply to ]
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Is it sort of like a Yee-haw! Cuz that's what we gave 'em back. And yeah, its a holy war on their side and anybody who doesn't get that is putting the rest of us at risk.
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Re: Are we in a Christian Jihad? [Monk] [ In reply to ]
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I don't even argue against you on that point of them thinking it is a holy war, I just argue over the real meaning of the word jihad.
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Re: Are we in a Christian Jihad? [jkca1] [ In reply to ]
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Are we in a Christian Jihad?

Perhaps, it's just a version of Christian prosthelitizing gone a muck...

Joe Moya
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Re: Are we in a Christian Jihad? [jkca1] [ In reply to ]
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Insight - no, not really. Anyone with half a brain and common sense could have figured out what was coming next. Thomson stretched his thoughts into 6 paragraphs, added some anti-conservative and anti-capitalist flair, and this is what he came up with.

As for the Religious War, I don't agree. An anti-Arab war would closer but still wrong. A friend of mine believes the war is more about pleasing Israel and quashing Arab nationalism and power than it is about anything else.

BTW: The plane that hit the Pentagon wasn't really an American Airlines 757:
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm. Where's Agent Moulder?

:)


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Re: Are we in a Christian Jihad? [sc3826] [ In reply to ]
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Bugs! Simpled minded fools!!! Dear God what fucking morons!!! So damn busy looking for the conspiracy they won't even use their brains!!! I hate conspiracy retards!!!!!!!!!!





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Re: Are we in a Christian Jihad? [Mr. Tibbs] [ In reply to ]
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I love you too.

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Re: Are we in a Christian Jihad? [jkca1] [ In reply to ]
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"Does anyone view the Iraqi war as a religious war?"

Only within the context that the Iraqi's would not be using the suicide bomber tactic if it were not for their particular religious beliefs. This type of self destructive tactic would not be used by people of many other religions. The war itself might be over if the Iraqi's had different religious beliefs. It may be prolonged because they have a belief that this is a religious war although it is not be waged in that manner by our side.

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Re: Are we in a Christian Jihad? [jkca1] [ In reply to ]
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No, we are in a Corporate Jihad. Don't fool yourself, this is not about religion. At all.
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Re: Are we in a Christian Jihad? [AndyPants] [ In reply to ]
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Best answer I have read in a long time.

"The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do."
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Re: Are we in a Christian Jihad? [jkca1] [ In reply to ]
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Thx. I wish more people could see it.

AP
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