no briefs. shorts work just as well. keep things mid thigh or lower.

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customerjon @gmail.com is where information happens.

I have in the years paid for 2 things that were Orca brand - both were over priced and both wore out in what I would consider much to short a time. For instance - at IMLP 2000 I picked up a pair of shorts, decided to race in them - by the end of the race they elastic was worn out of the fabric . Orca has (had?) no customer service and the shorts were only worn once. I have hear similar complaints from others about the quality of Orca. I have a great fondness for DeSoto clothing (shorts) and Sugoi (tops)

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What if the Hokey Pokey is what it is all about?

I'm using one of these for training, bought it on sale last year for $16 or so. It's very skimpy, so much so that my OFS (old fat slow) self is a trifle embarrassed to be seen in it. So far it's holding up OK, 3-4 months of swim training. I usually get 10 months or so out of a standard pair of Speedos, so it remains to be seen what the durability is like. I won't buy them again, just because I don't have the body for it.. ahem. Jammers from here on, I think. I'm going to try the Kiefer version next, they have them for $23, www.kiefer.com.