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The Outlaw 140.6 (UK)
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I see Mr Knighty76 on the entry list, anyone else who frequents this board doing it? Only my second Full in the UK, and it'll be interesting to see what this very popular race is like (it's the biggest non-Ironman Full in UK).

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Re: The Outlaw 140.6 (UK) [Jorgan] [ In reply to ]
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I'm doing Ironman UK this year, but The Outlaw certainly interested me being significantly cheaper and well recommended.

IIRC the course has pretty good PB potential from what I recall, right? Very flat bike a run courses?

Is it the largest full-distance race in participants behind the Ironman events? I've done a few of the Castle series and would have thought their events would rank right up there, but I guess most people at those will be doing the range of shorter distances.
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Re: The Outlaw 140.6 (UK) [awenborn] [ In reply to ]
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They sold-out all 1500 places; I don't think any other Full can do that outside Ironman over here. Ironman UK doesn't sell out nowadays (still open). Outlaw numbers are limited by the course I would imagine.

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Re: The Outlaw 140.6 (UK) [Jorgan] [ In reply to ]
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Tritalk finally died a death has it?

He who understands the WHY, will understand the HOW.
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Re: The Outlaw 140.6 (UK) [earthling] [ In reply to ]
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Not yet! I'm just fishing to see who from the UK frequents here. Have you given up on TT?

TriTalk is a good compromise between the clueless-ness of the Ironman Journey FB group and the (often pointless) obsessiveness on ST :-)

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Last edited by: Jorgan: Jul 4, 17 2:20
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Re: The Outlaw 140.6 (UK) [Jorgan] [ In reply to ]
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I'll be there...
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Re: The Outlaw 140.6 (UK) [Jorgan] [ In reply to ]
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I like the idea of the swim being two lengths of the pool.

Not enough to actually do the race though...
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Re: The Outlaw 140.6 (UK) [SidSnot] [ In reply to ]
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I will be there. Second full after IM Wales last year. Doing this one for "fun" on a lot less training. A LOT less. That, of course, may mean it ends up being no fun at all.
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Re: The Outlaw 140.6 (UK) [Jorgan] [ In reply to ]
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Its on my list of potential UK races in the next few years, that and the Lakesman - a buddy of mine did this and it looks like a really nice event but much much smaller than the Outlaw
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Re: The Outlaw 140.6 (UK) [Stevie_A] [ In reply to ]
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Lakesman is a great race, have done it the last 2 years, fantastic support, friendly and brilliantly organised.
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Re: The Outlaw 140.6 (UK) [Jorgan] [ In reply to ]
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Will post more detail when I get into work tomorrow but, in short, it fucking rocks.
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Re: The Outlaw 140.6 (UK) [Jorgan] [ In reply to ]
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Longer answer.

I bloody love this race, but unfortunately this year I'm a DNS. I've totally failed again to maintain any fitness through the winter (little kids at nursery and primary school collecting diseases for a hobby) so I pulled out, I probably shouldn't be on the start list by now. I'm also a bit of a fatty right now.

I did this as my 2nd full distance, after I did Austria the year before to pop my cherry. Austria was the hottest on record and non-wetsuit, so I was banking on Outlaw for an easier day out... how hot is it going to be in Nottingham? But it turned out to be one of the hottest days on record in the UK.

This shouldn't happen in Nottingham through 3 layers of factor 50 P20...



If you are wondering when and where to book your next holiday, check my race schedule.

I don't think my fitness was quite so good for Outlaw, but I did go 20 minutes faster than Austria, so; it is a fast course. I reckon you'll get your 10 hrs here mate.

The swim is as simple as you get.. it takes place (as you'll know) in the Holme Pierrepont watersports centre which is basically a really long rectangle with a run/bike path around the outside. You swim out along the left hand bank for ~1mile, turn right, swim across the width of the lake, turn right, swim back. Simples. It is really easy to navigate because once you've sighted your line you can just check that you are keeping straight with the bank when you breath left.



Logistically very simple. Bikes are racked at the bottom of the lake on the hardstanding you can see there by the pontoons. There are tents with your transition bags and seats to the side where you come out, bottom right of this picture. Everything is within 50 metres. Easy as peas. I'd heartily recommend camping if you don't mind that kind of thing, it is a 10 minute walk across the road in the morning. And the layout of the watersport facility makes for a pseudo stadium kind of an affair with supporters lining the lake. The finish is off the the right there aswell, with a banking and tiered seating next to the chute for your fans. You'll know the layout if you've ever been to the National club relays.

Bike is a south loop and a North loop, and then repeat the South loop. It is pretty flat and accurate for length. As you can see I rode 5:2x on fairly pathetic watts.

Bike Route

It isn't closed road but the traffic must stay away and everything is really well marshalled. A bit of major roads to get out of town but then lots of flat and slightly rolling country lanes through villages and whatnot. The only climb of any significance (and it isn't very significant) is on the North loop, and there is usually a decent crowd there. You need to keep your ego in check! I had loads of guys there from my club, including our lead coach, and because I was pacing with my power meter I was holding it down under FTP all the way up and basically going backwards, so I was getting a bit of jip from my mates! But the proof is in the pudding, because those guys nailing it up that hill were all passed again within a mile or two. On the 2nd South loop I rode a 1 minute negative split and it felt like I was flying with everybody else blowing up around me.

You will lose a bit of time coming back into T2 over some pretty rough private lanes, it is unavoidable because of the layout of the place, but it's only a half mile or so and you just use it to get your legs ready for the run.

Run is a lap (or two, I can't remember) of the lake, collect a wrist band to show you completed it, and then you head out along the river, bottom left on the image above, and follow up past Nottingham Forest FC and Trent Bridge CCC. You'll go under Trent Bridge and carry on up to the smaller pedestrian bridge and cross to the Victoria embankment, big aid station there and good crowds, then follow the river up to the park, turn around, come back down and over the bridge, back to Holme Pierrepont for another lap, collect a wrist band. Then repeat, so you follow the river out-and-back twice. It is pretty much flat other than the bridge, accurate for distance, and there are plenty aid stations. The next time you come into HP you'll do a final 2/3rds victory lap (you will fucking hate that lake by this point) then into the finish chute. Great crowds, great noise, see your family, collapse, then go find some lasagne or whatever they have andsome alcohol-free Erdinger.

As per previous post, I fucking love this race, it is dear to me. Chills down my spine thinking about getting ready to set off as the sun comes up. Wear tinted or polarized goggles! This race has a real family atmosphere and sense of community and support. It is a big part of my club's calendar and we staff one of the aid stations every year. You can't miss us, we are Wakefield Tri Club in black and yellow and you'll know it by the noise and the amazing encouragement you will get from all of our lunatics. Our club is fucking ace.

Very jealous now writing this. Oh well, it'll have to be next year and I'll take more vitamin D this winter! Good luck mate, let us know how you got on.

Cheers,
Rich.
Last edited by: knighty76: Jul 5, 17 3:26
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Re: The Outlaw 140.6 (UK) [knighty76] [ In reply to ]
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Good write up Rich. I did it last year and thoroughly enjoyed it and am back again for this year, hopefully quicker. Logistically its one of the easiest races around with camping near transition and everything all in a small area.
They also lay on free buses for spectators to take them out to Car Colston to watch the bike where racers pass through twice between the north and south laps
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Re: The Outlaw 140.6 (UK) [knighty76] [ In reply to ]
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Great write-up. If anyone is interested in more, The televised version of the race is on youtube going all the way back to 2012 I believe. They do a great job and it looks like a lot of fun. Maybe I can get over to that side of the pond and do it one day. Looks very family friendly as everyone can cross the finish line with their friends/family. And everyone seems to get to be able to run through the finish banner. And they say you are an "Outlaw" which is pretty cool.
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Re: The Outlaw 140.6 (UK) [TriathlonJoe] [ In reply to ]
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Good point Joe, I'd forgotten it is filmed. They showed it on Channel 4 over here last year. Friend of mine from our club won the ladies race on her full-distance debut in 2015 (Jenny).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEffcRw1yqw
2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdeE1rN3z-4
2015


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Re: The Outlaw 140.6 (UK) [knighty76] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in for this - will be my 2nd full distance after my debut at IM Zuirch last year (10.45) - had a bit of a shocker on the run so hoping I've sorted my nutrition this time.

I've raced at Holme Pierrepont before at one of the organisers half distance events so can vouch that the set-up is great and the organisers really know what they're doing.

Hoping for something around 9 and a half hours this time around all going well (best case scenario!). Raced a half last month and managed a 4.15 so I think it could be do-able. Race report on that race is here if anyone fancies a read;

https://spragginsblog.wordpress.com/...-triathlon-04062017/
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Re: The Outlaw 140.6 (UK) [knighty76] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the info Rich! Perhaps you not racing is a good weather omen ;0)

Did my last long ride and a 10k brick today. Bit warm for my liking, but a 20 mile run 3 days ago might have been a factor too; collapsed into a shaded gateway when I finished! I've been fighting the fatigue & that annoying coughing virus during my peak volume phase, and thankfully just a long run on Sunday left to complete the 4 week block.

I've done enough of these fulls now to know not to take anything for granted, so much can happen over that distance. Weather aside, it's all about execution. I really need to rein it in starting the the run. I MUST!! I can do my long runs at the desired pace, but the bricks I just get all silly, like an opening 4:18/km today.

Really looking forward to the taper now :)

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Re: The Outlaw 140.6 (UK) [Jorgan] [ In reply to ]
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How'd you get on Jorgs?
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Re: The Outlaw 140.6 (UK) [knighty76] [ In reply to ]
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We did this in 2010 as part of a trip back to Blighty. Almost guaranteed a fast swim a you can use the weed in the water to get some great purchase and pull on. The water is/was a bit 'yucky' but can't fault the event overall.

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