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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Contest 9 is the best IMO. As for the others, putting 3 primary colors on a bike is, in my opinion, really lame. The faded ones are also cool, but the colors are bad.
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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For me the word tactical makes me think military, police, special forces, etc. It makes me think about the old Garmin Tactix watch. Being tactical isn't about being flashy, it's about getting done what has to be done. It's about doing the hard stuff because someone has to.

I'm thinking about someone pointing a gun (I don't have any, so probably more a movie gun) with that little red laser dot on the target.

All that said, my opinion is that with a name like Tactical it should be matte black, glossy black TACTICAL on the tube with a small amount of red, like inside the fork or inside the chainstay or something like that. I don't see neon yellow and tactical going together. And I love neon yellow (running shoes, headphones, gym bag, bunch of shirts...)


--Chris
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Screenshot 1 and Contest 9 are by the same person obviously. Hire them.



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Re: Premier Tactical [Cnasta] [ In reply to ]
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Agreed
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Re: Premier Tactical [minimalist] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for all the replies on the paint and decal. To answer the other question - the FC-35 tested fastest in the lowest position (adding the extension piece and flipping).

Dan Kennison

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Last edited by: dkennison: May 19, 17 6:06
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Re: Premier Tactical [Cnasta] [ In reply to ]
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Cnasta wrote:
dkennison wrote:
A few weeks ago we started a "Paint and Decal" contest to get some in-put from athletes. If you have a minute please let us know which one you like best. I have a few more but could only up-load 5 images. The others are on our facebook page @triPremierBike




Allready stated this at fb, but the designs still look a bit cheap (in a bad way, not in the good affordable cheap way like the pricing of the bike) :) If I had to choose from these, I would go for 9, but I think better designs are possible.

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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How close to the head tube was it when it tested faster? Other tests seem to indicate it must be very close (almost against it) to be faster
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Re: Premier Tactical [DFW_Tri] [ In reply to ]
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We pushed it back as far as possible with the back of the Profile Design touching the front of the base bar. The portion of the FC-35 extending down does not touch the head tube although I think it might perform just a bit better if it did. I have seen a new model (Taiwan Bike Show) that has some rubber pieces that can be cut to adjust to different bikes so the sides can extend back to any head tube. Not sure if/when that will be available.

Dan Kennison

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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Interesting. Even with mine flipped upside down and pushed all the way back the gap from the bottom of the bottle to my head tube is several inches so was just thinking that may be too much to get any Aero benefit and may actually result in an Aero penalty
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Screenshsot_1 but everything blue in red. so basically only white and red.







Last edited by: lmar77: May 19, 17 8:30
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Screenshot_1
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Re: Premier Tactical [georged] [ In reply to ]
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Just an FYI - for anyone thinking about purchasing a Tactical from our first container of product.

Size Small only 1 left;

Size MD 1/2 are pre-sold;

Large we have 6 left.

An additional shipment this year will arrive in September.

5 Optimized chains left until June 7th then we will have another 100 ea including 10 each 10 speed.

Dan Kennison

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Last edited by: dkennison: May 19, 17 8:35
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Contest 9, no contest.
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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I like Contest 1&2, but would probably lean a little more toward 2 if I had to chose.
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Re: Premier Tactical [lmar77] [ In reply to ]
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lmar77 wrote:
Screenshsot_1 but everything blue in red. so basically only white and red.









This is the best yet, in my opinion. Although white frames get very dirty very fast. Needs to be glossy for sure. Also would carry the black further along on the drive side chainstay. White chainstays are dumb as dumb gets -- looking at you, Cervelo.
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Re: Premier Tactical [kileyay] [ In reply to ]
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kileyay wrote:
lmar77 wrote:
Screenshsot_1 but everything blue in red. so basically only white and red.


This is the best yet, in my opinion. Although white frames get very dirty very fast. Needs to be glossy for sure. Also would carry the black further along on the drive side chainstay. White chainstays are dumb as dumb gets -- looking at you, Cervelo.
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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I have to second what Kiley said about matte paint: don't do it. It's nice the first day you have it but it's impossible to keep it in good shape.
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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Definitely this one which is on facebook but not in the pictures you linked to here. Definitely want to keep the blue you initially chose, and this is excellent - just adds a bit more blue to the frame while quieting down the disk wheel graphics. Blue seatpost is a 50/50 for me, but love the rest of it- remember, just because some people made noise about the graphics/color scheme, there's others that never said anything because we basically liked what you had going! Also like the facebook one in black/red with the flame-effect graphic...
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Re: Premier Tactical [rahciao] [ In reply to ]
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...this one, he tried again, hoping the attached photo would appear this time....
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Re: Premier Tactical [dkennison] [ In reply to ]
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I like Contest 9 the best in terms of style. The gray and black color looks the best, though I think you could potentially use some other colors with that scheme that would look nice as well. Like some of the others, I'd prefer glossy over matte.

Just my individual opinion, but I think larger decals look better. It'd look great could with the lettering covering a larger portion of the downtube (i.e. twice as tall as shown in Contest 9).

Matt
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Re: Premier Tactical [Pun_Times] [ In reply to ]
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I liked Contest 1 best and Contest 9 2nd. Not a fan of white bikes personally.
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Re: Premier Tactical [lmar77] [ In reply to ]
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Yep, this is by far the bes looking one.
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Re: Premier Tactical [Cnasta] [ In reply to ]
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This is an interesting comment. I see this written about other brands sometimes and I always have to ask, what then do you like? What bike out there has a "not cheap" design?

I think it's important to note that none of these designs would be final - another round or two of edits and feedback would be needed.

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Re: Premier Tactical [Staer] [ In reply to ]
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I like the concept of decals. If you get tired of your color you can change it. There are other bike companies going the decal route, Omni and Diamondback offer various colors. Way cheaper than paint and all those headaches. Dan's design in blue really turned me on. It is a big change for me, I do not own a blue bike. What is really cool he is asking you what you would like. To my knowledge not one bike manufacturer does that.
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Re: Premier Tactical [rhudson] [ In reply to ]
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looking to buy one in the next year. really hope that wheels are decals and you offer a solid frame color. a high viz yellow (like trek offers) would be incredible (or matte black)
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