cerveloguy wrote:
SH wrote:
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And there are also all kinds of people around the world starving to death under right wing pro capitalist dictatorships.
Show me one that took
a prosperous country and destroyed it in < 20 years only by implementing their pro economic freedom/capitalist plan.
Its quite obvious that you know absolutely nothing about Cuba history. Cuba was never a "prosperous" country in its entire history except for the very small % of wealthy elite that made their fortunes on the backs of the exploited that began from the moment that the Catholic church sanctioned enslavement of the native aboriginal population. Once they were exterminated, Cuba was a major player in the African slave trade. Institutionalized racism wasn't even abolished until Castro. Even at the time of the Castro revolution, much of the population was living in poverty, illiteracy, and other substandard conditions while Batista entertained the Mafia and American corporate interests which exploited Cuban workers with low wages, no benefits, no healthcare and long hours. Cuba is not prosperous today, but did eliminate the social inequalities. I've seen much worse poverty in any other Caribbean island that I've visited. But everybody in Cuba has free access to education and healthcare. They are a very proud people and the island is the safest for tourists in the entire Caribbean.
There have been a lot of pro capitalist dictator failures, many propped up by the CIA, that have failed over the years. Its too late for me to do a google tonight.
I'm sure you probably know more about "economics" than I do since that was never my area of study, but I'm calling you out as a right wing hack trying to use that as an argument while ignoring the bigger picture.
And.....back to the OP....you've still got to give a lot of credit for Cuba for their independent biomed industry and cancer research. Although I doubt very much that you would.
The "starving to death" reference is to Venezuela, so your history of Cuba comments aren't even on point.
And as far as the biomed industry... I'll give the Cuban slave laborers some credit for striving in their prison, sure. I will not give Cuba credit. I will not give communism credit. American slaves harvested more cotton in the American South than in the rest of the world combined. You want me to give the Confederacy credit for that? You want me to talk up the institution of slavery?
I just want people to understand what you really defend here. Your bizarre romance with institutional evil needs to be shown for what it is. If a system cannot function without resorting to dictatorship, without total suspension of human rights, and without enslaving its people then the "big picture" is that it is evil. So, I'm not ignoring the big picture here. You are.