Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers

Nov 13, 17 7:52

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USA Today gives away its thinking with its hed: "Controversial" 840-horsepower Dodge Demon heads to dealers

"Controversial?" You spelled "Making America Great Again" all wrong, USA Today. ;-)

Zero to 60 mph in 2.3 seconds, baby! (With a 100 octane tune) And with 770 lb-ft of torque. LOL!

"Fiat Chrysler Automobiles has begun shipping the first 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demons to dealers, the automaker says.

The limited-production, 6.2-liter Hemi V-8 engine delivers 840 horsepower. Dodge is touting the mega-muscle car as the industry’s first street-legal production drag car. The National Hot Rod Association has certified it as the world’s fastest quarter-mile production vehicle."

There's an old saying: "There's no replacement for displacement." Glad to see that Detroit (well, Detroit and Italy ;-) still gets that. Engine is a 6.2 liter mill with a 2.7 liter supercharger (up from the 2.4 liter version in the Dodge Hellcat). If you run pump gas, you're going to see "only" 808-hp and 717 lb-ft of torque. What a dog, in other words. ;-)

Controversial 840-hp Dodge Demon heads to dealers

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 8:01

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I have a Challenger Scat Pack. With a few mods, I am putting down around 550-ish. It isn't the top end hp, it is the torque and the insane displacement (the Scat Pack is a 6.4 L while the Hellcat is 6.2 L with a supercharger). It takes a great deal of control not to drive it like a douchebag (i.e., squealing tires at the stop light, fishtails around corners, etc.). While I "want" a Demon, that thing has to be a bitch to drive.

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 8:17

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Meh. The last, and only, Dodge I'd consider in the last few decades would be a Viper.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 8:28

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Electric cars have been able to do 0-60 in 2.3 seconds without needing a giant engine.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [FishyJoe] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 8:35

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FishyJoe wrote:

Electric cars have been able to do 0-60 in 2.3 seconds without needing a giant engine.

Just a giant environment-killing battery.

If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [FishyJoe] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 8:37

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FishyJoe wrote:

Electric cars have been able to do 0-60 in 2.3 seconds without needing a giant engine.

Electric cars will never get you hot chicks, either. No balls, bro. ;-)

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [JSA] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 8:57

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JSA wrote:

FishyJoe wrote:

Electric cars have been able to do 0-60 in 2.3 seconds without needing a giant engine.

Just a giant environment-killing battery.

The batteries are proving to be really long lasting and new technology could very well make recycling a profitable business. Old batteries can even be used again in lower stress environments such as homes.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [tigermilk] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 9:07

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tigermilk wrote:

Meh. The last, and only, Dodge I'd consider in the last few decades would be a Viper.

I used to be obsessed with dodge vipers. As a kid in the late 80's/early 90's I spent a lot of hours making a lot of model vipers.

I remember a very experienced driver saying that was one of the only cars that really terrified him. Lots of power, very hard to control.

Long Chile was a silly place.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [FishyJoe] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 9:11

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FishyJoe wrote:

JSA wrote:

FishyJoe wrote:

Electric cars have been able to do 0-60 in 2.3 seconds without needing a giant engine.

Just a giant environment-killing battery.

The batteries are proving to be really long lasting and new technology could very well make recycling a profitable business. Old batteries can even be used again in lower stress environments such as homes.

Electric car. Fast, yes. Instant-on torque.

2018 Dodge Demon 840-hp, 770 lb-ft of torque:

I don't see too many hot women draped all over electric cars. ;-) ;-)

4,200 pounds of chrome steel and sex appeal, sir. Wins out every time. LOL!

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 9:28

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Another “meh” from me.

From the engineering standpoint, i’m impressed. 2.x to 60 will always blow me away, and I know I’d either end up in jail or dead if I️ drove one.

I’m just more of a fan of fast cars that can, say, go around a corner? ;)

Give me a tuned WRX STi any day over this. Or a turboed BRZ on e85.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Koala Bear] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 9:36

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Koala Bear wrote:

Another “meh” from me.

From the engineering standpoint, i’m impressed. 2.x to 60 will always blow me away, and I know I’d either end up in jail or dead if I️ drove one.

I’m just more of a fan of fast cars that can, say, go around a corner? ;)

Give me a tuned WRX STi any day over this. Or a turboed BRZ on e85.

American muscle cars (as opposed to quick or fast cars) have always been about straight-line acceleration. I think the Demon is even certified as the fastest dragstrip-ready production car. That's what'll pull them in. Although there's no doubt this one is more of a halo car to get folks into the showroom, where salespeople can then move them into a Charger R/T or something with more civilized manners that can get the kids to soccer practice. ;-)

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 9:42

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My next project car is going to be a 1999 to 2004 Mustang, either GT or Cobra, outfitted with a 2015-2017 Ford 5.0 liter Coyote engine (NA, not turboed... I don't want to spend that kind of money on an Aluminator version). I'll use the FRPP control pack, an aftermarket tubular K-member up front and a new rear (it's a live axle, so I can't go too crazy) and a bunch of other stuff, plus a performance tune. The car's cheap (anywhere from $3,500 to $5,000 in great shape and relatively low miles) and the yards are full of Coyotes (including 2015s from donor cars) and it's a straight drop-in to the '99-'04 Mustang engine bay with stock k-member. Not a lot of crazy mods to do, like with a Fox body if you go that route. :-)

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 9:45

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big kahuna wrote:

Koala Bear wrote:

Another “meh” from me.

From the engineering standpoint, i’m impressed. 2.x to 60 will always blow me away, and I know I’d either end up in jail or dead if I️ drove one.

I’m just more of a fan of fast cars that can, say, go around a corner? ;)

Give me a tuned WRX STi any day over this. Or a turboed BRZ on e85.

American muscle cars (as opposed to quick or fast cars) have always been about straight-line acceleration. I think the Demon is even certified as the fastest dragstrip-ready production car. That's what'll pull them in. Although there's no doubt this one is more of a halo car to get folks into the showroom, where salespeople can then move them into a Charger R/T or something with more civilized manners that can get the kids to soccer practice. ;-)

Yeah, I️ get that. And I️ understand that to a lot of people, straight line speed and acceleration are where they get their excitement from. And I️ don’t dont doubt that if i got in a demon and floored it, I️ might have fun (:
But it would get old to me.

With a 300-400 hp Japanese or European car to me, that’s when you can still have fun of the line, but take it to a road course or a back country road and have the real fun (:

it’s just personal preferences, but those are mine (:

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 9:47

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However I️ do think the the “controversial” is a bit stupid, to say the least.

Maybe i’m not up to date but has there been serious controversy with it?

It’s fast and it’s loud, I️ don’t think that’s controversial...
has it voiced its opinions on abortions? Gun control? Climate change?!

Aw, oh well ;)

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Koala Bear] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 9:48

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Koala Bear wrote:

big kahuna wrote:

Koala Bear wrote:

Another “meh” from me.

From the engineering standpoint, i’m impressed. 2.x to 60 will always blow me away, and I know I’d either end up in jail or dead if I️ drove one.

I’m just more of a fan of fast cars that can, say, go around a corner? ;)

Give me a tuned WRX STi any day over this. Or a turboed BRZ on e85.

American muscle cars (as opposed to quick or fast cars) have always been about straight-line acceleration. I think the Demon is even certified as the fastest dragstrip-ready production car. That's what'll pull them in. Although there's no doubt this one is more of a halo car to get folks into the showroom, where salespeople can then move them into a Charger R/T or something with more civilized manners that can get the kids to soccer practice. ;-)

Yeah, I️ get that. And I️ understand that to a lot of people, straight line speed and acceleration are where they get their excitement from. And I️ don’t dont doubt that if i got in a demon and floored it, I️ might have fun (:
But it would get old to me.

With a 300-400 hp Japanese or European car to me, that’s when you can still have fun of the line, but take it to a road course or a back country road and have the real fun (:

it’s just personal preferences, but those are mine (:

Oh, I'm with you. I had a 1996 Nissan 300ZX twin turbo that I had sent off to Stillen for some other mods. It had serious road capabilities and it was lightning quick for the era. Just one of many cars I went through, foreign and domestic. ;-)

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 9:49

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big kahuna wrote:

FishyJoe wrote:

Electric cars have been able to do 0-60 in 2.3 seconds without needing a giant engine.

Electric cars will never get you hot chicks, either. No balls, bro. ;-)

Some dudes like chicks w/ hairy legs and pits.

ΜΟΛΩΝ-ΛΑΒΕ
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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Madduck] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 9:53

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Madduck wrote:

big kahuna wrote:

FishyJoe wrote:

Electric cars have been able to do 0-60 in 2.3 seconds without needing a giant engine.

Electric cars will never get you hot chicks, either. No balls, bro. ;-)

Some dudes like chicks w/ hairy legs and pits.

Thank God they're in the minority. At least in America. ;-)

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 9:57

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Very cool, especially the launch technology, but add me to the list of people that would rather have a car fast on a road course than on a drag strip.

A Focus RS would be way more fun to drive.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 10:23

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Pretty sure that wont be the case for long

http://compositesmanufacturingmagazine.com/...lectric-energy-heal/

I was pondering this today as i again discussed the theoretical merits of a focus RS and there is something tangible about the driving experience of gas that electricity will not ever offer........plus i like changing gear, accelerating hard and braking hard and i like really windy roads

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Thom] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 11:21

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Thom wrote:

Very cool, especially the launch technology, but add me to the list of people that would rather have a car fast on a road course than on a drag strip.

A Focus RS would be way more fun to drive.

I read they are going out the door around $90,000. Nearly $100K for a MOPAR product that can't really be driven comfortably (or safely) on the average road.

My guess is most are going to collectors and investors that will put them in storage so that someday a guy like Leno can show one on whatever TV turns into for our great grand children and everyone can go "ooh" about how great the old gas cars were before "blah blah blah" took over.

I suspect I will never see on in the wild.

By the way, MOPAR is selling just the engine for about $23,000 so you can put in your '78 Dodge Dart, or whatever the hell you want to do with it.

"...the street finds its own uses for things"

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 11:36

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I don't know, I think I could pick up a few non-hairy pitted beauties with this...

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [AutomaticJack] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 11:48

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"I suspect I will never see on in the wild. "

I dunno, I didn't really expect to see that many Hellcats and I've seen 2 here in Tucson, which isn't usually a bastion of expensive cars. But, AMERICA.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Koala Bear] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 12:27

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There was an Automotive News editorial stating that the car is too dangerous for the road or something like that. Basically it has so much power it shouldn't be street legal and "untrained owners" are putting the rest of us at risk. Not really serious controversy, editorial seemed to be click-baity.

Koala Bear wrote:

However I️ do think the the “controversial” is a bit stupid, to say the least.

Maybe i’m not up to date but has there been serious controversy with it?

It’s fast and it’s loud, I️ don’t think that’s controversial...
has it voiced its opinions on abortions? Gun control? Climate change?!

Aw, oh well ;)

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [JSA] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 12:35

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JSA wrote:

I have a small penis. While I "want" a Demon, that thing has to be a bitch to drive for someone like me who has such a small penis.

FIFY.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 12:40

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Meh.
All that engine, all that metal, all that fuel for a lot of noise and straight line acceleration. The lack of elegance & finesse,
If I was spending that sort of money on a sports car, I'd rather get something like a Nissan GT-R or Porsche 911 Turbo S. Still wicked fast but its also a high performance racing car. And you feel like you get some quality and engineering for your buck.

Remember - It's important to be comfortable in your own skin... because it turns out society frowns on wearing other people's

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Duffy] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 13:18

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Duffy wrote:

JSA wrote:

I have a small penis. While I "want" a Demon, that thing has to be a bitch to drive for someone like me who has such a small penis.

FIFY.

Hey, look on the bright side; at least it's not a buried penis amirite or amirite? ;-)

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Guffaw] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 13:20

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Guffaw wrote:

Meh.
All that engine, all that metal, all that fuel for a lot of noise and straight line acceleration. The lack of elegance & finesse,
If I was spending that sort of money on a sports car, I'd rather get something like a Nissan GT-R or Porsche 911 Turbo S. Still wicked fast but its also a high performance racing car. And you feel like you get some quality and engineering for your buck.

If attractiveness and WOW! factor were left up to only folks from around Motown, which loves it some American Muscle, the Demon would crush that rice-burning GT-R and wiener schnitzel-eating sissy boy 911 Turbo S. ;-)

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Trieatalot] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 13:36

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Trieatalot wrote:

I don't know, I think I could pick up a few non-hairy pitted beauties with this...

"The joy of the automobile is in the harmony of form and function—or, in the case of our old pal the Black Eyed Peas’ Will.i.am, to just stick a bunch of fake vents and other junk on a Tesla and call it a day."

Damn, that's one ugly car. I don't know what kind of women you'd pick up with that.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Ringmaster] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 13:52

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This is muscle. Good to have in a bar fight (or to win a world war ;-). Can work all day and party all night. It'll even help you move that big couch from your old apartment to your new one.

This is muscle, too:

And so is this:

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 13:57

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And the new American Muscle is just as bad@ss: ;-)

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Ringmaster] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 14:36

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OK, I'll try again. How about this one?

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 14:49

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The new 911 gt 2 RS is the fastest production car round the nurburgring ever I believe

Where as the Detroit monster would not make it through the first corner

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Andrewmc] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 14:59

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Andrewmc wrote:

The new 911 gt 2 RS is the fastest production car round the nurburgring ever I believe

Where as the Detroit monster would not make it through the first corner

Street legal yes, but the fastest time is held by a McLaren hybrid vehicle (didn't have a front plate, not street legal).

The second fastest time is held by a Chinese electric car.

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 15:02

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big kahuna wrote:

FishyJoe wrote:

Electric cars have been able to do 0-60 in 2.3 seconds without needing a giant engine.

Electric cars will never get you hot chicks, either. No balls, bro. ;-)

What, you never saw The Dilemma w/ Kevin James & Vince Vaughn...? VROOM VROOM, baby!

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Thom] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 15:03

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Thom wrote:

A Focus RS would be way more fun to drive.

The Focus RS is a hoot. Been exercising the traction control in the snow over the last couple of weeks... it's good fun to see how far you can hang the tail out before the computer decides it's had enough. While you can destroy pretty much any street car at the lights (except for electrics ;) ) one really good thing is that even in the blue colour, it seems like only car people recognize it for what it is, which means you don't automatically get checked out by every cop you happen to encounter.

Less is more.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 15:15

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How about this one? 800 hp and 1800 ft-lbs, 0 to 60 in 1.79 sec, 1/4 mile in 9.89 @ 140.6.

I think you can do "muscle" with electric and there will be a market for it. I know I like to go fast, I don't really care how I get there. :-)

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 15:17

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big kahuna wrote:

There's an old saying: "There's no replacement for displacement." Glad to see that Detroit (well, Detroit and Italy ;-) still gets that. Engine is a 6.2 liter mill with a 2.7 liter supercharger (up from the 2.4 liter version in the Dodge Hellcat). If you run pump gas, you're going to see "only" 808-hp and 717 lb-ft of torque. What a dog, in other words. ;-)

'Hit and Run' (2012) scene:

Dude #1: [Referring to Yul's car] I bet this thing's got nitrous. This got nitrous?
Yul Perrkins a.k.a. Charles Bronson: No. Nitrous is for fags. It's got cubic inches.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Thom] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 15:46

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Thom wrote:

Very cool, especially the launch technology, but add me to the list of people that would rather have a car fast on a road course than on a drag strip.

A Focus RS would be way more fun to drive.

You need to try it. I have mentioned before, I have a VW Golf R, Stage 3+, that just hit the dyno at 505 awhp. I race it at Road America. I also take it to Tail of the Dragon every year and autocross race it. It is a blast.

That said, I have a Challenger Scat Pack with a few minor mods. It is fun as hell to drive. There is no replacement for displacement.

If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Andrewmc] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 15:53

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Andrewmc wrote:

The new 911 gt 2 RS is the fastest production car round the nurburgring ever I believe

Where as the Detroit monster would not make it through the first corner

Really ...

If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [JSA] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 15:56

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JSA wrote:

Thom wrote:

Very cool, especially the launch technology, but add me to the list of people that would rather have a car fast on a road course than on a drag strip.

A Focus RS would be way more fun to drive.

You need to try it. I have mentioned before, I have a VW Golf R, Stage 3+, that just hit the dyno at 505 awhp. I race it at Road America. I also take it to Tail of the Dragon every year and autocross race it. It is a blast.

That said, I have a Challenger Scat Pack with a few minor mods. It is fun as hell to drive. There is no replacement for displacement.

1) VW question. Are you SCCA? I've been away from that world for a long time so don't know the current classes.

2) Dodge question. But can it brake or corner? That's historically been the problem with big blocks.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [cerveloguy] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 16:01

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cerveloguy wrote:

1) VW question. Are you SCCA? I've been away from that world for a long time so don't know the current classes.

2) Dodge question. But can it brake or corner? That's historically been the problem with big blocks.

1. Not yet. Next season.

2. Brake - yes. Corner - kinda. I have front and rear braces, which made a huge difference. Still, not even a little bit like the Golf R. I cannot imagine taking it on Tail of the Dragon, but I see a number of guys give it a try. The Golf R blows away the Challengers on twisting roads like that.

If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Andrewmc] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 16:12

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Andrewmc wrote:

The new 911 gt 2 RS is the fastest production car round the nurburgring ever I believe

Where as the Detroit monster would not make it through the first corner

Have you ever heard of the "Boss Hoss" motorcycle. A guy in our area has one. A guy in the states dropped a 345 bhp Chevy V8 into a Harley frame and sold about a thousand of them. Fastest thing on two wheels in a strait line but can't brake or make it through the corners. Its interesting to me that Americans always want to be the fastest down the quarter mile whereas as Euros are quite willing to sacrifice brute power for better balance on the road course.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [cerveloguy] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 16:25

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cerveloguy wrote:

Andrewmc wrote:

The new 911 gt 2 RS is the fastest production car round the nurburgring ever I believe

Where as the Detroit monster would not make it through the first corner

Have you ever heard of the "Boss Hoss" motorcycle. A guy in our area has one. A guy in the states dropped a 345 bhp Chevy V8 into a Harley frame and sold about a thousand of them. Fastest thing on two wheels in a strait line but can't brake or make it through the corners. Its interesting to me that Americans always want to be the fastest down the quarter mile whereas as Euros are quite willing to sacrifice brute power for better balance on the road course.

It's compensation for something...

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [cerveloguy] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 16:37

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Oh c'mon CG, you know better. The boss hoss is a Chevy v8 but it certainly isn't in a Harley frame. And it isn't the fastest in a straight line. 1/4 mile or top speed. It makes a ton of power, but cant hook up and weighs 1100+ lbs. It's a joke.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 16:48

Post #45 of 69 Views: 2383

I do not have data on this but I would say that the average female driver and or passenger in a Tesla is going to be much better looking than that of a Demon or any Dodge Muscle car for that point.
Lots of Telsa's here in So Cal for me to have formulated that opinion. But I could be wrong.

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Ringmaster] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 17:03

Post #46 of 69 Views: 2377

Ringmaster wrote:

How about this one? 800 hp and 1800 ft-lbs, 0 to 60 in 1.79 sec, 1/4 mile in 9.89 @ 140.6.

I think you can do "muscle" with electric and there will be a market for it. I know I like to go fast, I don't really care how I get there. :-)

Now this is the kind of porn I like. ;-)

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [OneGoodLeg] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 17:05

Post #47 of 69 Views: 2375

OneGoodLeg wrote:

big kahuna wrote:

There's an old saying: "There's no replacement for displacement." Glad to see that Detroit (well, Detroit and Italy ;-) still gets that. Engine is a 6.2 liter mill with a 2.7 liter supercharger (up from the 2.4 liter version in the Dodge Hellcat). If you run pump gas, you're going to see "only" 808-hp and 717 lb-ft of torque. What a dog, in other words. ;-)

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Dude #1: [Referring to Yul's car] I bet this thing's got nitrous. This got nitrous?
Yul Perrkins a.k.a. Charles Bronson: No. Nitrous is for fags. It's got cubic inches.

Hahahahahahaha! That's hilarious! ;-)

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [gymrat] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 17:08

Post #48 of 69 Views: 2373

gymrat wrote:

I do not have data on this but I would say that the average female driver and or passenger in a Tesla is going to be much better looking than that of a Demon or any Dodge Muscle car for that point.
Lots of Telsa's here in So Cal for me to have formulated that opinion. But I could be wrong.

The Tesla is the science nerd's or Silicon Valley nerd's idea of what a hot muscle car is supposed to look like. My attorney has a Tesla S. And he confessed to me that he used to get beat up every day at recess back when he was in grade school. ;-)

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [FishyJoe] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 17:15

Post #49 of 69 Views: 2367

FishyJoe wrote:

cerveloguy wrote:

Andrewmc wrote:

The new 911 gt 2 RS is the fastest production car round the nurburgring ever I believe

Where as the Detroit monster would not make it through the first corner

Have you ever heard of the "Boss Hoss" motorcycle. A guy in our area has one. A guy in the states dropped a 345 bhp Chevy V8 into a Harley frame and sold about a thousand of them. Fastest thing on two wheels in a strait line but can't brake or make it through the corners. Its interesting to me that Americans always want to be the fastest down the quarter mile whereas as Euros are quite willing to sacrifice brute power for better balance on the road course.

It's compensation for something...

It's like the difference between an Olympic 100 meter sprinter and an Olympic marathoner. They don't call the gold medal-winning Olympic marathoner "the world's fastest man." They give that title to the gold medal-winning Olympic sprinter, who's usually far more famous and world-renowned. ;-)

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 17:21

Post #50 of 69 Views: 2360

What an awesome time we live in for muscle cars. 600 plus hp in cars that steer, brake and get 25 mpg life is good.

Last edited by: 50+: Nov 14, 17 12:18

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [50+] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 17:27

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50+ wrote:

What an awesome time we live in for muscle cars. 600 plus hp in cars that steer, brake and get 25 mph life is good.

Damn right! ;-)

It's one reason I'm going to drop that Coyote modular V8 into a '99-'04 Mustang GT. 435-hp out of the crate -- before any mods (the Aluminator can do even better with a supercharger) -- and great gas mileage, plus reliability those original Detroit V8 muscle engines could only dream of.

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 18:12

Post #52 of 69 Views: 2000

big kahuna wrote:

Ringmaster wrote:

How about this one? 800 hp and 1800 ft-lbs, 0 to 60 in 1.79 sec, 1/4 mile in 9.89 @ 140.6.

I think you can do "muscle" with electric and there will be a market for it. I know I like to go fast, I don't really care how I get there. :-)

Now this is the kind of porn I like. ;-)

It's electric porn. That's the Zombie 222.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Ringmaster] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 18:32

Post #53 of 69 Views: 1992

Ringmaster wrote:

big kahuna wrote:

Ringmaster wrote:

How about this one? 800 hp and 1800 ft-lbs, 0 to 60 in 1.79 sec, 1/4 mile in 9.89 @ 140.6.

I think you can do "muscle" with electric and there will be a market for it. I know I like to go fast, I don't really care how I get there. :-)

Now this is the kind of porn I like. ;-)

It's electric porn. That's the Zombie 222.

Nice!

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [JSA] [ In reply to ]

Nov 13, 17 23:07

Post #54 of 69 Views: 1972

it was a bit tongue in cheek

i had not seen that but the video of the Viper fastest lap is an amazing piece of driving simply because it was clearly not the ideal car for a quick lap

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Ringmaster] [ In reply to ]

Nov 14, 17 4:58

Post #55 of 69 Views: 1953

Ringmaster wrote:

How about this one? 800 hp and 1800 ft-lbs, 0 to 60 in 1.79 sec, 1/4 mile in 9.89 @ 140.6.

I think you can do "muscle" with electric and there will be a market for it. I know I like to go fast, I don't really care how I get there. :-)

Nice, and I like the rims, can't stand big rims on classic muscle cars.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [50+] [ In reply to ]

Nov 14, 17 5:45

Post #56 of 69 Views: 1941

50+ wrote:

What an awesome time we live in for muscle cars. 600 plus hp in cars that steer, brake and get 25 mph life is good.

I bought my first sports care when I graduated from college. It was a 1987 Mazda RX7 Turbo. It was one of the fastest production cars available, faster than a Corvette from 60-100. I think the 0-60 time was in the high sixes.

Today you can buy a Toyota Camry the goes 0-60 in about 6 seconds. I drive a WRX with a relatively meager 270 HP and find it to be a blast to drive. Less than 30k, AWD, close to 30 MPG and I can carry adults in the back seat. The golden age of sports cars is now.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Thom] [ In reply to ]

Nov 14, 17 5:54

Post #57 of 69 Views: 1938

Electric motors are really going to redefine what it is to go fast. Electric motors have a much quicker response. They can be controlled in the same way anti-lock brakes can, to operate at the limits of the tires.

In a few years, even the cheap electric cars may be able to accelerate with the fastest gas guzzlers.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [FishyJoe] [ In reply to ]

Nov 14, 17 6:03

Post #58 of 69 Views: 1932

But they won't ever have the tangible / intangible feel of gas

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Andrewmc] [ In reply to ]

Nov 14, 17 6:23

Post #59 of 69 Views: 1926

Andrewmc wrote:

But they won't ever have the tangible / intangible feel of gas

People, mostly old dudes, will feel that way. Just like old dudes drive Harleys. There will be a market for it.

But it will be hilarious to watch some piece of junk electric car zoom past some fat old dude's muscle car.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [JSA] [ In reply to ]

Nov 14, 17 6:26

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Was using Forza Motorsport 6 game footage intentional...?

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [jkhayc] [ In reply to ]

Nov 14, 17 6:33

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thats hysterical.........

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [FishyJoe] [ In reply to ]

Nov 14, 17 6:41

Post #62 of 69 Views: 1912

almost certainly but its a control thing............

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [jkhayc] [ In reply to ]

Nov 14, 17 6:58

Post #63 of 69 Views: 1907

jkhayc wrote:

Was using Forza Motorsport 6 game footage intentional...?

Yes. Andrew got it.

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [FishyJoe] [ In reply to ]

Nov 14, 17 11:58

Post #64 of 69 Views: 1875

FishyJoe wrote:

Andrewmc wrote:

But they won't ever have the tangible / intangible feel of gas

People, mostly old dudes, will feel that way. Just like old dudes drive Harleys. There will be a market for it.

But it will be hilarious to watch some piece of junk electric car zoom past some fat old dude's muscle car.

If you're in Quebec, watch out for lime Smart cars: Link to Smart EV conversion video.

Less is more.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [JSA] [ In reply to ]

Nov 14, 17 12:50

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Is your R AWD?

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Andrewmc] [ In reply to ]

Nov 14, 17 14:19

Post #66 of 69 Views: 1847

Andrewmc wrote:

Is your R AWD?

Yes. Lowered and equipped with racing sway bars and two cross braces. Corners like it is on rails.

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Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [Koala Bear] [ In reply to ]

Nov 15, 17 18:51

Post #67 of 69 Views: 1801

From the engineering standpoint, i’m impressed. 2.x to 60 will always blow me away

It's really not that impressive...it's called gearing :-) There used to be people around here that would run 1/8 miles rather than 1/4 miles. Huge gears and wheelie bars.

I’m just more of a fan of fast cars that can, say, go around a corner? ;)

I'm with you. I think it's far more impressive to have a car that can have a fast 0 to 60, 1/4 mile, high top end AND can go around a corner. It's fairly easy to do any one of those well. Doing them all well is a pretty significant challenge.

~Matt

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]

Nov 16, 17 7:22

Post #68 of 69 Views: 1775

Slightly apropos: Cop in a po-po spec 500HP Charger chasing down a Euro-douche McClaren 720S. She hit 143MPH, and her voice sounds Ice Man-calm on the radio. No thang.

Re: Truly Making America Great Again: 840-HP Dodge Demon Heads to Dealers [trail] [ In reply to ]

Nov 16, 17 9:31

Post #69 of 69 Views: 1762

trail wrote:

Slightly apropos: Cop in a po-po spec 500HP Charger chasing down a Euro-douche McClaren 720S. She hit 143MPH, and her voice sounds Ice Man-calm on the radio. No thang.

Yeah, cop rides nowadays have serious road capabilities and cops get better driver training. They do those PIT maneuvers and J-turns like it's no big deal. Back in my younger years, 143MPH in anything cop-ride-like would have scared the crap out of said cops. ;-)

Side note: I don't know why these speeders who run don't understand that cop cars come with cop radios, and cop radio waves will ALWAYS be faster than the cars they're speeding away in. LOL!

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