Have you personally encountered one of these hysterical people or more to the point is the person you're dating hysterical?

Not to mention what are you planning to do that has you worried? You're not planning on going into Louis CK territory or something are you?

If there is one thing everyone should know by now, what is normal in Duffy's world is significantly different than normal in the real world. He basically told women to calm down, they are over-reacting. Women deserve more credit than that. Have fun on your date.

This makes me think that we are going back to the future. A contract before sex, I believe that used to be marriage. My daughter is going off to university. If she wants a walk home after dark they provide an escort (one male and female as a team). I'm quite happy about that. I met young man who got disciplined by his university for having a consensual relationship with a student one year younger than him because he was the residence "don". He was second year she was first. Next thing you know they will have all female and all male residences again.

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They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

Just think WWWD and do the opposite and you will be fine.

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They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

Just try to remember, it’s sexual assault if she finds you unattractive. Or if she regrets it in the morning. Or if she had anything to drink.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

LoL

4 way right off the get go, bold move !

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"I think I've cracked the code. double letters are cheaters except for perfect squares (a, d, i, p and y). So Leddy isn't a cheater... "

It does seem somewhat brash. Mind you; fortune favours the brave...

Juat tape the interaction so you have a record of the whole event.

This is very likely true.


My world, your world, their world. It’s all the same world.


Nope.

I’m saying some women need to fucking chill. Some other women need to be held somewhat accountable for staying silent about real sexual assault (Weinstein) because of how their silence allowed other women to also be victimized.

When Mrs. Duffy was 19 her boss followed he home, waited until she went to sleep, broke into her bedroom and tried to foceably rape her. She fought him off, he ran out, she called the cops.

Turns out this guy had done this to several other women who said nothing. Their silence allowed this guy to continue his assaults until Mrs. Duffy reported him.


Women who actually deserve more credit do.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

Be yourself. When/if you feel the time is right, make your move. If she rebuffs you try your best to assess if she’s playing “hard to get”. If you think that’s the case try again (if you think she’s really not down for the struggle then that’s it, you’re done).

If she says no a second time then back off, verbalize your attraction/desire for her in a kind and honest way.

Ask her out for another date if she’s interested.

If the subject of the recent bullshit comes up take it as the perfect opportunity to clear the air. Ask her what she thinks about it all and listen to her!

If you disagree with her on the subject but still want to fuck her keep your god damn mouth shut!

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

Video.

And post it here!

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

When I was single I would pick up chicks by simply just asking them if they wanted to fuck.

Talk to them for a bit (at a coffee shop or wherever) and then when that awkward moment of silence comes I’d just say, “so, do you want to come over to my house and fuck around?”

If they said no, that was it. If they said yes, we’d go.

Simple.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

Made me think/worry about my upcoming 'decisive' date tomorrow, where I plan to let her know my feelings about her.


There's your first mistake.

Is this a joke or legit? This is how dating goes for you? Meaning you plan something called a "decisive" date and use that to determine whether you "hit it off?"

Don't take this the wrong way, but that sounds more like a serial killer tactic than a fun date.

I think we should place bets.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

I'm a no. Something feels off by the description.

I am betting he masturbates into a plant in front of her. It seems that us a "thing" now.

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Proud member of the MSF (Maple Syrup Mafia)

You’re on!

$5.00?

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

He’s got no game.

He’ll get shut down and he’ll walk away with slightly lower testosterone levels because of it.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

...and by "coffee shop" you mean street corner.

...and by "say no" you mean they'd ask if you were a cop.

...and by "say yes" you mean they'd tell you it was $20.

On the OP, I think there's a fair chance he finds himself face-down in a pillow taking it from a strap-on.

Nope.

It ain’t that hard if you’re reasonably good looking, have empathy, a sense of humor and good listening skills.

Oh, and balls. It takes balls to ask someone you just met if they want to have sex with you.

Be prepared to be rejected and don’t let that get you down.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

No need for those pics!

I'm not sure what a Don is, is that like an RA? If so, no wonder. If he's in a position of authority or potential authority over her, he shouldn't be dating her. They probably go over that in the intro. to being a Don orientation. I doubt the issue was the age difference. If they wanted to date one or the other should be reassigned so there is no potential conflict of interest.

Under what pretenses would a school have the authority to discipline students because of an age difference when dating?

I have two daughters and I worry about what life is going be like when it comes to dating for them. My personal thought about this area is if someone hurts my kid I am going to kill them... Maybe some of you moms and dads can empathize with me, maybe not. Maybe I'd let "justice" run it's course....but I have little faith in justice unless you are dishing it out yourself. Anyway, anything that makes a predator have second thoughts about what he or she should do is a good thing. I wish all the people that have been suffering would have surfaced years ago, but now that they have I hope moms and dads everywhere talk to their kids about what is acceptable behavior and what isn't.

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"The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do."

Becoming celibate and swearing off women has never looked better.4

That's cool. More for me and Duffy, who actually know how to read women, unlike all ya'll fumbling creepers.

You know how to read women? Oh, you're one of 'those'.

Yes, I talk to and listen to women. :)

and then pat them on the ass like Duffy does. Yeah, you 'know' women.

Has anyone shown concern for the plants?

Ah... the analog hook-up. I do miss the thrill of a same day lay.

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Swim. Overbike. Walk.

When I was much, much younger, a friend of a friend would sometimes come out to clubs/pubs with us and he would try this and would often score.
Later in the night he would walk up the hottest woman he could find that seemed to be alone (or with girlfriends) and simply say, " So, are you ready to leave now?,and we would always be amazed just how many of the most beautiful women you had even seen would walk out with him.

Also had another mate who would only go out every second thursday night at his local club when the government would pay the single mothers pension payments.
He always went for the fat single mothers as he said they were always a sure bet and they would do whatever he wanted as they were desperate to get fucked and try and score themselves a man/father for their kids.

Sadly, I never had the balls for approach 1, and thankfully I was never desperate enough to try approach 2!

When I was in the Navy, one of sailors working for me asked a girl for a dance at a club we were at in San Diego. She said no, so he then asked "I guess a %@# job is out of the question?". The girl gave him a funny look and then dragged him out of the club for about 15 minutes. He returned and said to the table "I need to reply that way more often!"

True story, or as we said in the Navy, this is no bull%$&#!

Full swap?

LOL, nice!

Just responding to Duffy because he always has entertaining responses and responding to this thread because it's sort of related.

I don't know if it's me or if society has just collectively lost its mind. The last four girls I dated:

1. Insurance agent. She played the nice girl/potential trophy wife card well. Dumped me for her "ex-boyfriend" who turned out to be a real estate developer in his 50s. She was 27... but I'm sure it was love. Ironically, I'm probably wealthier than him lol.
2. A swimmer/personal trainer who kept asking me weird questions like "if you were to jump on the moon would you just float off into space?" On the first date I thought she was just nervous and trying to be funny but by the third date I realized she was just really really dumb. I had to break it off after about a month.
3. A doctor who was extremely demanding (which I sort of expected), had an awesome dog (Husky Malamute mix), and had some really weird sexual fetishes. She was super into public sex which started off as just sex in public areas but then she wanted to escalate things in ways I wasn't ok with. She also always complained about money which I think is distasteful when you first start dating.... and to be honest she was very well payed but she just had no clue of how to live within her means. I miss her dog :(
4. Pharmacist who showed up to dinner, downed four Cosmopolitans over the course of dinner, said she was going to the bathroom, and then left while I was getting the check (apparently she didn't go to the bathroom, the waiter said she just walked out).

1. She’ll make a good side piece when she just can’t stand banging her disgusting husband anymore and wants some real dick.

Try to keep in touch with her.

2. Keeper.

3. Did she want to have strangers watch you while you guys had sex? I knew a girl that was into that. Probably best to stay away unless that’s your thing. Seems kind of dangerous to me.

4. Um, well, uh....

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

I don't know which parent spoke to what kid, do you? Today this problem is on the front page of ever social media feed. Was it like this 10 years ago? 5 years ago? Not bloody likely. Like I said I hope that ALL people would take the time to talk to their kids, boys and girls. That opinion has not changed.

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"The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do."

Hoping those two points aren't in any way related.

I have a son. I’m afraid he’s going to bang some chick and a few days later she regrets it, cries rape and ruins his life.

What’s happening now and how it’s being “handled” is bad for everyone.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

Yeah, they're all really hitting the jackpot now.



Sure, anything's possible But in my experience it's very, very unlikely if you're not an actual rapid, perv, creeper, or douchbag. Maybe a bit more likely if you're super rich or in a position of power. But even then women, generally speaking, don't *like* to play victims. It's humiliating, and they're vilified for it (like you're vilifying them for speaking out).

I think you have a bit of hangup about women. I called it from the OP.

Or maybe I'm just lucky, never having had a women lie about a sexual interaction with me in an attempt to "weaponize" the experience. Even in relationships that ended poorly. And even with some batshit crazy women.

But let us know how it goes!

The only time I ever had a real problem with a crazy liar of a woman was a girl that I turned away.

She tried to stab me with a pair of scissors, in front of a room full of people.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

I lost all respect for #1 and realized I dodged a bullet

#2 was really really hot but just too dumb man.


Bingo on #3

It started with her wanting to go to bars and have other women hit on me and then me go home with her. Then she wanted to go to a bar and have guys hit on her and I'd have to fight them off. Then she proposed going to a swingers club and having sex in front of a lot strangers on a stage.... it goes on. Some of her fantasies definitely veered into the dangerous category. Based on how she described her childhood (her parents didn't pay any attention to her and she became an over-achiever in an attempt to get them to notice her) I'd say she has validation issues.

I hear you. My long time girlfriend (the one before I got permanent with Mrs. Duffy) sort of did something similar, except it wasn’t her ex she left for. But she did “move up” re: her man’s income scale. I still run into her now and then and still enjoy talking to her. She regrets her decisions. I don’t. She didn’t age well. Italian.


And?

You blew this one. Turn in 25% of your man card.

Ha. Just joking. I was set up once with a hot dumb dumb. She was smoking hot but so damn dumb I couldn’t even get myself to fuck her once. She was really dumb.


That’s not exactly what I was thinking but what you describe is not something that is likely to turn out well in the long run.

There’s a fetish where people get off on having sex in front of strangers. They never actually get physical with the other people (obstensibly) they just let others watch.

They might place an ad on craigslist and just invite whomever reads the ad to show up at a certain location for the free show. Or just do it at a club, bar, concert, beach, etc...

Fortunately for these people there are plenty who just like to watch....

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

I hear that. Parents of both sexes have to wise up and make sure their kids understand what could happen. I had a member of my family raped 5 years ago. The asshole spent a night and jail and then walked because the victim went to the hospital days after the rape. She was in shock but she was raped. She eventually had to leave the state because he kept showing up at places she frequented. So much for our legal system.

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"The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do."

One thing I think isn’t being stressed enough, I’ve been trying to make this point in a couple of other threads and getting flamed for it btw, is that victims need to go to the police right away.

We need to teach people, women especially in the case of rape, that they have to report the crime immediately.

It’s horrible what happened to your family member but by her not going to the police right away her rapist is free and victimize others (and continues to victimize your family member).

Every time I have said this people say I’m “blaming the victim”.

So be it. I’m tired of trying to defend it.

I’m also tired of rapists raping over and over again because victims don’t speak up.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

 
I think there are some key differences between men and women and our appendages or lack thereof may actually be at the center of it.

Being a woman would be weird as hell. I, as a straight male, can't really imagine the idea of having someone else "go inside of me". The thought weirds me out, I can't imagine it being pleasant and would find it disturbing for someone else to have their body part inside of me.

As a male I have an appendage that I can put in other people, but nothing goes inside of me. Luckily for me, in my psyche that is much preferable.

If a woman hits on me, she is not suggesting/threatening to put herself inside of me, she is essentially asking me to do that to her. She is asking for me to do something "to her" not "have something done to me". Now I realize that men can be raped if they are intoxicated or otherwise unable to stop the process. But it still seems different in that the woman wants that man inside her, he is not being forced to have something inside of him. This may be where some of the difference comes between different genders reactions to sexual advances. I was hit on relentlessly at a previous job and if I hadn't had qualms about sex with married women I would have had no issue giving her what she was asking for. Not sure I would have felt the same if I was a woman.

Going back to your point. I can't imagine it is pleasant to discuss how someone forced themselves inside you, or to have someone else examine the inside if you after that forced penetration. Also we all tend to think we can forget things if we just don't think about them. All of this leads to women not reporting. Yes, of course they should. But it still seems more embarrassing for a woman to get examined and have to describe someone going into them rather than a man who is raped and is now just mad that someone used his tool without his consent.

I was once drugged and had things put insid me by at least two women.

No big deal, to me at least.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

Yeah but you pseudo work for the EPA so you are accustomed to sitting around with your thumb up your ass!

I don’t work for any government agency.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

I am so with you on this Duffy. In my circumstances the rapist was a guy she knew. She considered him a friend and there had never been anything sexual between them before. PTSD is what I think she and others experience but I am no doc...

So here's a idea and I am going to give it to all of you on the hope that you donate 10% of your profits to charity. Develop an app. Call it "I consent". The app is a simple contract that people would have on their phone that states they agree the hookup between parties A and parties B is consensual. The app should take 60 seconds to fill out. It isn't sexy. It isn't cool, but if sure beats having the cops knock at your door and it would remove any doubt. Not the end all to the problem but it's a start.

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"The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do."

The problem with these culture wars is that we lose so many people to psychosis -- on both sides. Stay strong!

In response to Duffy and Trail....why is it those who claim that they "Know how to speak to women" are the ones who are typically perceived as the creepers.....weird...

This sentence struck a chord with me. I didn't get married until mid 30's. Almost all the earlier relationships ended because the relationship got kinda dull. It was like the relationship would, after a while, start rotating around my life. Eventually I found a hot DC Lawyer that was wicked smart and full of gumption. So I began a long campaign to marry the girl. And now our oldest boy just entered started HS.

She's full of moxie tho. She runs the house. It's pretty rare that I say "no, that's not acceptable". 99% of the things around the house and general family stuff, I just don't have strong feelings about. I really like being married to an assertive power-chick type. There were girls that looked like fashion models, there were girls that were amazing in the rack, but I got bored with them. Power-chicks rule.

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"If only he had used his genius for niceness, instead of Evil." M. Smart

Sounds like Mrs. Duffy in a lot of ways. She’s not a lawyer though.


Same here. But the 1% that I do care about is absolute and my decisions are final.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb