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Eminem unleashed pure vitriolic venom towards President Donald Drump during a four-minute freestyle at the BET Hip-Hop Awards.


“Racist 94-year-old grandpa,” “The Thing,” “We Hate Trump,” were just some of the niceties that Eminem let loose during last night’s broadcast of the 2017 BET Hip-Hop Awards. In a segment for “The Cypher,” Em did more damage to President Donald Drumpf’s ego in four minutes than any TV news analyst could do in an hour.




It was a highly anticipated moment from the D12 MC better known as Marshall Mathers, as everyone sat on the edge of their seat wondering just how deep would he get. Trust us, if you haven’t seen it, watch it now because it is totally worth it. Called “The Storm,” every barb was a lightning shock to the face and each menacing “eff you” was felt like a rumbling thunder boom.

Irrespective of whether he is right or wrong, dylan won a nobel for song lyrics. Eminem speaks to a generation in the same way dylan did / does

I watched it. I thought it was very clever, that he is articulate and speaks of many peoples issues with trump

Rap glorifies violence against women in the same way that english literature - dickens - glorified robbery, that it glorified the subjugation of entire countries - kipling etc

Saying one thing glorifies another as a generalisation is idiotic. Some of it does and some of it doesnt

Do you see a problem with the generality you made?

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Yes, that's the art form that does that.

So, you're saying that rap songs don't promote violence any more so than photography or other music? Really?

More than photography? Not even close. More than other music? Maybe. Regardless how much rap do you think doesnt promote violence? Do you know there are thousands of christian rappers? Muslim rappers? Childrens rappers, Etc. Rap is as ecompassing as saying "painting" there are numerous styles and subjects covered.

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You read several articles about this topic? Really? Your post strikes me as someone who is being willfully ignorant of a large segment of the US and world population.

It's ludicrous. It's not exactly a secret that rap, as a genre, has a problem with objectifying and degrading women. And if people want to play obtuse, Eminem specifically has a well-known, undeniable history of problematic lyrics about women.

It's a crazy world when some degenerate rapper with a history of misogynistic, homophobic lyrics can (credibly) hold himself out their as morally outraged by the president of the United States. And sad but not surprising that people will hypocritically defend him because they share his hatred of Trump.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

What's even sadder is that the misogynistic homophobic celebrity still holds the moral high ground in an ethics contest with the president. (and probably in an IQ contest too)

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

How have eminems views evolved through the years? It sounds like you know, and you would if you listened to his music or read interviews.

Also, do you know his stance on homophobia?

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I am not sure what is harder listening to one of Trumps speeches or sitting through that video.

I do listen to some of his music. He is talented, and I like some of his music. I don't make a special attempt to keep tabs on how his world view is evolving, no.

Would you be defending some social conservative who wrote and performed the same lyrics?

No, you wouldn't. You're a hypocrite.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Definitely has the better vocabulary by a wide margin.

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You think i have a problem defending someone on an issue they are right about, if i generally disagree with them? Really?

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That boy is simply bringing awareness through his art. He's down with the struggle.

I think you are an obvious hypocrite. Really.

This isn't even the only current thread in which you're displaying your hypocrisy.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

I tend to agree with the overall point you are trying to make, but my head isn't in the sand when considering one man's misogynistic, homophobic speech is another man's locker room talk. You didn't need to put Eminem and Trump on the scales for this argument. I think that says more about your biases than others.

Yeah, I like some of Eminem's stuff but that video was like some weird disjointed poetry slam or something.

By all means put my hypoctisy on display, because youll have a hard time finding some.

What exactly are you claiming im being a hypocrite about here?

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my head isn't in the sand when considering one man's misogynistic, homophobic speech is another man's locker room talk.

Nor is mine. I even said the rapper's claim to the moral high ground is credible.

I think that says more about your biases than others.

What do you think it says about my biases?

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

If it were completely free style it would be good, but I don't think that was the first time he said it.

And I never get the talk about 'so and so destroys the bad guy'. Sure, if you already agree with them you like it, but how often do any of these takedowns, etc actually have an impact or are remembered for more than 2 days.

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

He basically says that his (persistent) use of homophobic slurs is simply the misunderstood manifestation of the persona he portrays on his albums. The real 'slim shady' completely supports gay marriage and, "don't have a problem with nobody". It is amazing that people continue to be critical of this national treasure.

Essentially, the Hulk Hogan defense.

Not really trying to defend him here, I don't really know what he thinks. But EMINEM is a character. Marshall Mathers plays that character. So to say that he's homophobic because EMINEM says homophobic stuff is not necessarily accurate.

He may be homophobic, I don't know. But just because he plays a homophobic character doesn't mean that he is one himself.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

There is so much stupid in that statement I don't know where to begin. Eminem made rhymes to a beat about Trump and because some other people rhyme to a beat about violence and women, you think that there's irony?



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Exactly. Much the same way that christolph waltz is not a nazi even though his character was.

Now, much can be said about the value vs harm of playing a rap character that says homophobic things.

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Now vitus may come to call you a hypoctite.

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I'm just surprised that no one has pointed out the irony that Eminem is white and rap is black music. Hmmmm....think about it.

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Mind...blown!

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My apologies. I obviously missed that part.

Uh, no. Christolph Waltz didn't choose to solely play Nazis for his entire acting career, and Waltz doesn't exhibit many of the troublesome aspects of his character in real life. Mathers, on the other hand, has made his entire career solely out of glorifying the violence and ideas that his "character" lives by. He's been in legal trouble for weapons charges several times. He's been charged with assault, he's struggled with drug addiction, and he's been repeatedly charged with homophobic lyrics, to which his only defense is that when and where he was growing up, those words were just typical insults and not specific to gays.

Yes, he's a talented rapper and artist, but setting aside his Eminem persona as just a character who doesn't represent Matters is just silly.

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(insert pithy phrase here...)

Even better is Snoop Dogg's reaction. On YouTube if you are so inclined ...

Your mind migh be blown again.

drn92

Cultural appropriation.

Burn the witch!

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Fair points, however his raps dont always match what he states his views are in statements and interviews. How do you reconcile that?

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I think he's smart enough to rap what sells, and he's smart enough to say (most of the time) what keeps him out of too much trouble with sponsors, reporters, and fans when he's being interviewed.

If you make a career out of glorifying bad behavior, you're responsible for that, regardless of whether or not you claim to behave well in real life. Kids in particular, listen to the music and take their cues from that. They don't step back and say, "Gee, I really like this guy's violent, vulgar, disrespectful music. I think I'll look carefully into how he lives on a day to day basis and copy that behavior. "

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I listen to hip hop on Sirius, and in my experience songs featuring lyrics supporting gay rights don't tend to dominate the airwaves. No play, no pay ... simple.

There is definitely some plausible truth to that. Plausibility does not equate to reality however. We know from studies that playing violent video games does not make people violent, despite the plausible sounding claim that it does. I dont know if music has a different effect. I don't recall ever reading any research on it.

I do know that faster paced rap, like eminem, helps me run faster and calming music helps me relax, and that is backed by research. it may be true that it has an impact on other areas as well.

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Exactly. And if it was some social conservative country singer who'd made a career out of misogynistic and homophobic work, you wouldn't have to explain it to vegan.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

It's probably just "locker room" talk so to speak.

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"I want to say a little something that's long overdue,
The disrespect to women has got to be through.
To all the mothers, and the sisters and the wives and friends,
I want to offer my love and respect to the end."

- Beastie Boys "Sure Shot"

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Well played. Well played.

Fair enough. I admit that it was not accurate the way that I said it. Still, I would think that most objective people would agree that there is a significant amount of rap music (and culture) that promotes violence.

I never said the music causes a specific reaction. I said the artist doesn't get to build their entire persona, and all their music, and all their videos, around a certain type of behavior, and then step aside and claim that that's not what he's about because he's moderately less troubling in real life.

Regardless of whether his music causes any specific behavior in kids, his music glorifies a certain range of ideas and behaviors, and his life doesn't do much to counter that glorification, and it's pretty ridiculous to hold him up as some sort of champion for good values just because he happens to launch a vulgar attack on someone else a lot of people don't like.

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Hey dipshit, demonstrate your claim or shut the fuck up.

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I say fag and make homo jokes all the time. I do jiu jitsu, which one giant gay joke waiting to be told.

And I love faggots! My son’s “god parents” (the people who will take care of him should mrs Duffy and I die) are a gay male couple.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

Something something can't prove a negative something something.

You're a hypocrite.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

thanks for showing your ass Barry

*i like big butts*

Debbie Harry. First #1 rap song. Before it became a genre so if anyone's appropriating anything?? It's blacks appropriating the genre from drugged out blonde's. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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You made a claim that im a hypocrite and when i ask you to demonstrate it, you cant and double then trippled down. That makes you dishonest.

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No, it means I have no interest in demonstrating the obvious.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

You cant, thats the obvious.

Look, even slowguy who i have butted heads with countless times, doesnt say im a hypocrite. In fact, him and i have defended eachother on issues where we agree. Most recently in the chicago homocide thread. hell, hes even defended my stance on the gospel author of luke-acts. Slowguy is no liberal, yet i have defended him, as with others who i normally disagree with.

Youre an idiot.

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Here's a bonus: Almost everyone of your posts in this thread has contained several logical fallacies.

Suck on that.

Whether or not slowguy says you're a hypocrite has no bearing on the fact that you're a hypocrite. Whether or not he agrees with you or disagrees with you or attacks you or defends you at various times is irrelevant. Whether or not you defend slowguy even though you're a liberal and he's not is irrelevant.

You're still a hypocrite.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

As usual, no idea what you are talking about. Showing my ass? In reference to what? You replied to a post where I was mocking Rick's bizzarre idea of what irony is. For the record, I don't care what color any musician is. Talent is talent, and good music is good music.


And I didn't say anything about appropriation.

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It demonstrates that your stupid claim that i would blindly defend a liberal but not a conservative is baseless.

Its ok, its clear that you made a claim you cannot back up, i dont need to continue this. Its plain for everyone reading along.

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;-) You're nothing if not consistent. Carry on the good fight amigo.

/r

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Steve

Give me an example of a conservative who's made his entire career on homophobia and misogyny who you've defended and championed.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and just about any other Christian preacher. You don't remember his adamant defense saying that they were just portraying roles as homophobic preachers.

I want to smoke what he's smoking. Holy cow.

You understand that just because you say something, it doesn't magically become reality, right?

I have read nothing in Veganerd's posts in this thread that are hypocritical. You are basically imagining him saying things that would be hypocritical if he said them and using that as your argument that he's a hypocrite. You're making yourself look petty and foolish.

I stand corrected.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Maybe I should have put my post in pink.

So you are realizing you cant back up your claim and now youre trying to put the burden of proof onto me. Awwww, bless your heart.

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lol.

So, no examples of conservatives who've built a (highly lucrative) career on a homophobic and misogynistic body of work who you've defended?

I'd be shocked, but I'm used to your hypocrisy.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

I'm having a hard time following the ad hominum argument. Is what Eminem said wrong because he's a homophobe or because you're a hypothetical hypocrite?

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Not you. I was saying I want to smoke what vegan is smoking because he's clearly not level headed at the moment.

I cant tell either.

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You know what's funny?

Neither you nor Barry has defended the content of Eminem's "takedown" of Trump.

As usual, you decided to knee jerk it and jump in as white knights. You leapt to the honor of hip-hop as a whole, and objected to Rick's accurate observation that the medium is known for degrading women. Barry, predictably, brought race into the conversation. Now you're here talking about ad hominem attacks. lol.

You're a hypocrite and a repetitive joke.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Would you defend anti-gay Republican politicians if they were only doing it to pander to the anti-gay supporters? Would you say that it is just their political persona?

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"I think I've cracked the code. double letters are cheaters except for perfect squares (a, d, i, p and y). So Leddy isn't a cheater... "

Oh you mean like when i defended larry craigs right to fuck whoever he wants and its none of our business? The only reason its a story is because it went against his public views.

His anti gay stance? CLEARLY part of his political personna and him trying to get fucked by a dude in the bathroom betrays that personna. He was mearly playing an anti gay character to pander to his base. Maybe a bit of self loathing mixed in too.



Lastly, what do you think i have been defending in this thread? Id invite you to read my posts again.

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Oh you mean like when i defended larry craigs right to fuck whoever he wants and its none of our business?

No, he means where you defended Larry Craig's public anti-homosexual stance as just a "persona" engaged in for professional reasons.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

You get to play along when you either produce evidence for your claim of hypocrisy or take it back.

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Funny how you had no problem trying to meet that burden of proof when you thought agreeing with slowguy a couple of times would do the trick.

Hypocrite.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

What do you call a white guy surrounded by ten black guys?

- Basketball coach...or Eminem

an example of a hypoctite would be pretending you hate child rape but belonging to an organization known worldwide for actively protecting child rapists from prosecution.

You wouldnt know anyone like that would you?

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nice to know Eminem got a certified black card from snoop! Question though, Eminem has pretty much conquered the world, worth like $200 million or some ridiculous figure. Why the hell is he so pissed all the time, don't think I've ever seen the dude smile in any photos always faking like a hard ass all the time. Lightnen the hell a bit it's ok to smile once in a while.

"Neither you nor Barry has defended the content of Eminem's "takedown" of Trump. "

I've also never proved that God doesn't exist. What's your point?



Rick pointed out the "irony" of rhyming about Trump when other rhymers rhyme about bad things. It's not ironic and, in fact, completely unrelated. Pointing that out does not obligate me, in any way, to defend anything Eminem said (which I didn't even listen to, btw).


"You leapt to the honor of hip-hop as a whole, and objected to Rick's accurate observation that the medium is known for degrading women."

No I didn't. I said it was unrelated.


"Now you're here talking about ad hominem attacks."


Well, yes. That's exactly what you guys are doing. Do you disagree?

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Rick pointed out the "irony" of rhyming about Trump when other rhymers rhyme about bad things.



You jumped to your own conclusion. So Eminem hasn't written anything promoting violence or is derogatory to women?

When I just a little baby boy
My momma used to tell me these crazy things
She used to tell me my daddy was an evil man,
She used to tell me he hated me
But then I got a little bit older
And I realized, she was the crazy one
But there was nothin' I could do or say to try to change it
'Cause that's just the way she was
They said I can't rap about bein' broke no more
They ain't say I can't rap about coke no more
Slut, you think I won't choke no whore
Til the vocal cords don't work in her throat no more?!
These motherfuckers are thinkin' I'm playin'
Thinkin' I'm sayin' the shit
Cause I'm thinkin' it just to be sayin' it
Put your hands down bitch, I ain't goin' shoot you
I'm a pull you to this bullet, and put it through you
Shut up…

Or maybe this one

But I may fight for gay rights, especially if they d--e is more of a knockout than Janay Rice. Play nice, b----h. I'll punch Lana Del Rey in the face twice like Ray Rice in broad daylight in plain sight of elevator surveillance, 'til the head is banging on the railing, then celebrate with the Ravens."


Or maybe this one about Mariah Carey


"I mean I really want you bad you c---t. Nick, you had your fun. I've come to kick it when you sacked that chump. Nick Cannon, you prick, I wish you luck with the f---g wh--e."


Or maybe this one


"Slut you think I won't choke no wh--e? 'Til the vocal chords don't work in her throat no more?"

Or maybe this one

Ain't no one safe from, non-believers there ain't none, even make the b----es I rape c--."

He's probably "hangry" from that eating disorder. And he runs a lot. Like almost as much as people on ST. I mean isn't that why we are all so angry?

Also, he's 5'8". That's a shame.

I've also never proved that God doesn't exist. What's your point?

My point is that you're a goof for pretending that you have been engaged in defending the merits of Eminem's attack on Trump. You haven't.



No I didn't. I said it was unrelated.

You characterized it as talking about how other people in hip-hop talk about women. Except that's not factually true- Eminem talks about women that way.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

No. I don't know anyone who pretends to hate child rape.

Do you, hypocrite?

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

"You jumped to your own conclusion. So Eminem hasn't written anything promoting violence or is derogatory to women? "


There's a reason why I have you hidden (though obviously I peak every now and again).




This isn't fucking rocket science. YOU said he was using a GENRE of music that is associated with violence and bad toward women. Those are YOUR words that I responded to. Now you are moving the goalposts.




If you had originally said that HE raps about violence and women, you would have made a good point. BTW, how hard is it to say, "Barry, you're right. I should have said that its ironic because EMINEM raps about violence and women."


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"My point is that you're a goof for pretending that you have been engaged in defending the merits of Eminem's attack on Trump. You haven't. "



This is your goto argument when you've run out of ideas. Since what I wrote was correct, you have to now assign some sort of meaning behind what I wrote to argue against.



Every. Fucking. Time.

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No, this is your go to argument. Like, every time, in every conversation you get involved in here. Four pages later, you try to weasel your way out of the plain meaning of your words and claim you've been inexplicably misunderstood and your statements mischaracterized.

It's not us. It's you.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Who said this? Rick pointed out the "irony" of rhyming about Trump when other rhymers rhyme about bad things.

It implies that Eminem does not belong to the group of people who write lyrics that demean women and glorify violence. Do you dispute that?

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

I read several articles where the authors used terms like "torched" and "lethal" regarding his performance. They were all over yahoo news today.

I am willfully ignorant of rap music - I give you that. I've heard enough of it to know that I don't like it. There are plenty of other music forms that I am willfully ignorant of too.

My intent in posting the link was to also discuss the misuse of the superlatives used to describe his performance. It did go off on a tangent that I initiated, so I won't complain about that.

Well, to help you get back to your original point, the headlines are all getting increasingly click-baity. (Kinda like the LR in the last couple of weeks . . . )

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Copy and paste what I said that was wrong. Do it.

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Yeah, I just read an online headline that said Eminem destroyed Donald Trump. Is this true? Can anyone confirm? Is Pence the new POTUS?

 
"Who said this? Rick pointed out the "irony" of rhyming about Trump when other rhymers rhyme about bad things.

It implies that Eminem does not belong to the group of people who write lyrics that demean women and glorify violence. Do you dispute that? "

You wrote:

"Also, isn't rap the art form that glorifies violence and shabby treatment of women? "


That fact that Eminem is a rapper doesn't mean that referencing "rap the art form" is actually referencing Eminem and only Eminem. You are talking about a large group of people. If it is, lets say, 1,000 rappers. 999 are not Eminem. Those 999 people have zero to do with anything Eminem wrote about Trump. There's nothing about that statement that implies that Eminem is not a rapper.

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You can scroll back and see what you wrote as easily as the rest of us.

Do so. Or don’t. Just stop bitching about how everyone misunderstands you. That bit was transparent the first time you trotted it out, and you’ve plumb worn it out since then.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Then again, so does Shakespeare.


Does music contribute to the problems or chronicle the problems? There's a causation vs. correlation problem in general trying to tie art to behavior.

Figurative language is a rhetorical device. "Destroy" in this sense isn't to be taken literally.

Coming full circle, I'd argue that the same applies to Trump, who is apparently pissed all the time too. That's two pieces of evidence that massive wealth is not, in itself, a pathway to perpetual contentment.

They're both performance artists. They both know how to lay down a hook. They both know how to play a crowd. They both know the visceral appeal of self-righteous anger. They both crave the power of the microphone, the response of the crowd. The music, the moment, you own it.

"You can scroll back and see what you wrote as easily as the rest of us. "


Yes, I wrote a lot of things. What exactly did I write that was wrong?



Lets cut to the chase. I didn't write anything that was wrong, which is exactly why you point to anything. Yes, everyone here can scroll and see, which is why it baffles me that you try to claim that I wrote something that I didn't. Its all right here for everyone to read.




Lets just skip to the part where you say, "Harumpf. You're being ridiculous. I'm done with you."

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See, there you go again. Willfully ignorant. I wasn't referencing your lack of knowledge of the rap form of music. You are choosing to marginalize that culture's perfectly acceptable use of superlatives. Why?

You know how I know you either have limited knowledge of rap music, a hard-on for lefty "gotcha" posts, or both? The vast majority of us read ONE article and what came to mind was "I thought Eminem was dead" and left it at that.

Red follows Trump close enough to cup his balls. Pretty sure he understands what figurative, rhetorical, and isn't to be taken literally means.

If that's legit, it needs to be cross posted into the trump good news thread.

You are choosing to marginalize that culture's perfectly acceptable use of superlatives. Why?

Man, you are confusing me. I think you're just trolling me now. Are the rappers writing the articles too? Are the articles just aimed at the rap culture? If so, why are they showing up in my browser?

 




"When your lyrics sound like they were written by Keith Olberman..."
"No longer authentic, daring or counter culture. I'm a washed up, whiny, middles aged cock- holster to be used as a political mouth piece to be used by the establishment..."
If Paul put his opinions to a poetic rap. He would destroy in a Rap battle.

PJW take.

A man with no browser control is no man at all.

That guy is British. He has no business commenting on American politics.

And holy shit, you linked to an Alex Jones guy?

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

I know, I hate it. I try, I think about nuns and dead cats and it doesn't help. I even hit it really hard when it starts to lose control and that only makes it worse.

Just to add facts to the discussion:

"Rap Music: Misogynistic Themes

One of the most disturbing aspects of rap music is its violent references to women. Over the years rappers have changed their focus from making music to making money and they have realized that sex and violence sells. It is seen that the most used forms of violence in rap are assault, rape and murder. Research shows that physical aggression is used to control the female and in “male-female interaction.” (Armstrong, 2001, p. 102)

That same research shows that 22 percent of rap music deals with violent and misogynistic lyrics. However, one album stands above the rest in this area. Eminem’s “The Marshall Mathers LP” is packed with these themes and is the fastest selling rap album in history. In this record alone, 78 percent of its content is considered violent and misogynistic. More than that, 82 percent of his lyrics involved female murders, where rap music in general only has 31 percent in that area. Out of the 11 songs on the album, nine of them depict murders of women.(Armstrong, 2001)

While we see misogynistic themes expressed in rap music, we also see it throughout all genres of music. These ideas are not new to the music culture. Misogynistic imagery is seen in country music with “musicians lamenting about how some ‘no good women kicked him out, sold his truck, took his money, and slept with his best friend’ to rock-in-rollers screaming about their latest groupie sexual content.” (Adams & Fuller, 2006, p. 940) This idea has found a place in the music industry. "




Its not ironic that he used a form of music that is "associated" with violence and misogyny. The ironic part is that HIS music has been associated with violence and misogyny.

As pointed out before, there are Christian rappers as well, not to mention the other 78% of the content of rap music. Is it ironic that Christians use rap music to glorify Jesus when the music is "associated with violence and misogyny? Of course not. Because there's nothing about rhyming to a beat that in any way relates what you are doing to someone else who also rhymes to a beat.

Wearing a mustache doesn't make you Hitler. Being a muslim doesn't make you a Jihadist. Being black and opposed to police brutality isn't ironic because *other* black people are violent criminals. Being pro gun doesn't mean that you have to be a Republican or anti-abortion.

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I'm confused. What is the hulk hogan defense?

Well done!!

A little RATM makes it at least listenable.